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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/24/2017 9:04 am
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Go Giants!
The one thing Donald, Hilary, Bernie and Steph Curry can agree on:  
CT Charlie : 9/24/2017 9:09 am : link
GO BIG BLUE !!!!
McAdoo will keep calling plays  
Eli Wilson : 9/24/2017 9:12 am : link
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I feel like I am heading to the sportsbar today for a funeral  
Jints in Carolina : 9/24/2017 9:15 am : link
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Let's all say a prayer for Eli today  
micky : 9/24/2017 9:18 am : link
hope he survives.
If we see the same Giants offense today...  
M.S. : 9/24/2017 9:18 am : link
...as in the first two games (and most of last season)... well, then, 0-3 and one step closer to a Top 10 draft pick.

Do the Giants want to be relevant after just three measly weeks of the new season?

Then our offense will need to step it up a notch or two, maybe several.
Two games into the season  
joeinpa : 9/24/2017 9:20 am : link
Combined with last year of a struggling offense, leaves you wondering just how is this team going to get better.

If the offense, especially the line, we're going to figure it out, you figure they would have done so by now.

You hear so many express that the Giants have no chance today, and fail to come up with a good argument as to why they are wrong.

And yet you get excited to see the game believing that this is the week they get it going. That would describe me.

0-2, the season is young, win today and that changes a lot
RE: Two games into the season  
M.S. : 9/24/2017 9:25 am : link
In comment 13612142 joeinpa said:
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Combined with last year of a struggling offense, leaves you wondering just how is this team going to get better.

If the offense, especially the line, we're going to figure it out, you figure they would have done so by now.

You hear so many express that the Giants have no chance today, and fail to come up with a good argument as to why they are wrong.

And yet you get excited to see the game believing that this is the week they get it going. That would describe me.

0-2, the season is young, win today and that changes a lot

Well played, Sir!
"Were"  
joeinpa : 9/24/2017 9:28 am : link
Auto correct got me again
We scored 3 points, then we put up 10 versus Detroit  
Jimmy Googs : 9/24/2017 9:30 am : link
so easy to see we will have 17 today which could do it if the Defense plays well.

Just think how much we will be scoring by Thanksgiving...
Desperation and familiarity has led to interesting results before...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/24/2017 9:31 am : link
just see last season's week 3 against Washington (and 2007). But to be honest, that's all I can hang my hat on right now. The idea of this offensive line going against a defensive line that is infinitely better than the previous 2 we've faced, but somehow getting the job done today seems a bit far-fetched. While the season is hardly over if we lose today, we'll learn a lot about the coach and the pride of the roster by 4 p.m. If the answers are similar to the first 2 weeks, then we really could be looking at a sinking ship.
RE: If we see the same Giants offense today...  
Eman11 : 9/24/2017 9:38 am : link
In comment 13612137 M.S. said:
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...as in the first two games (and most of last season)... well, then, 0-3 and one step closer to a Top 10 draft pick.

Do the Giants want to be relevant after just three measly weeks of the new season?

Then our offense will need to step it up a notch or two, maybe several.


The D is going to have to be 85 Bears/2000 Ravens like for this team to stay afloat until Ben and the O get their shit together. They've played pretty good so far all things considered but they're going to have to be great not just good or pretty good.
If they leave Philadelphia 0-3  
RetroJint : 9/24/2017 9:44 am : link
& let's face it, they probably will. Let them at least leave with their onions attached . A humble , contrite prayer .
Cross your fingers...  
Carson53 : 9/24/2017 9:46 am : link
and hope for the best today, if this O line gets pushed around, it won't be pretty. Lets see if they have some balls!
So no chance at LT  
UberAlias : 9/24/2017 9:47 am : link
We are not expected to see any othe changes on the Oline other than what we saw last week, but due to injury. Same Oline which failed to get it done a year ago. No changes in play caller after two years of ineffectiveness.

Will we see any changes at RB?

How many here have confidence in this guy McAdoo to fix the issues the offensive issues?
Hoping OBJ  
PEEJ : 9/24/2017 9:47 am : link
is the missing piece
Same as last week  
hitdog42 : 9/24/2017 9:48 am : link
If the giants believe that execution and communication improvements will drive a better performance, then we all will be disappointed.

Changing Scheme and recognizing deficiencies and adjusting to them and we can win this game. Chip, two te, put players in position to excel, don't just make them run your offense because it's your offense
RE: Hoping OBJ  
UberAlias : 9/24/2017 9:50 am : link
In comment 13612174 PEEJ said:
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is the missing piece
. The problem is the story was written on that a year ago. No running game and teams getting pressure rushing only 4 can easily minimize the threat. McAdoo has to do something to fix those two issues, but meaningful changes in sight.
No meaningful changes are in sight  
UberAlias : 9/24/2017 9:52 am : link
Is what I meant to say
Some think MacAdoo is stubborn  
joeinpa : 9/24/2017 10:17 am : link
I think he knows what he knows, and really has no where else to go with his game planning.

Right now there is a lot of pressure on him. That is why I m not surprised he will continue to call plays. When you are under duress, you fall back on what you are most comfortable doing
OBJ can't impact the game if eli is getting assaulted from the first  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/24/2017 10:19 am : link
drive of the game.
Doesn't look good  
WillVAB : 9/24/2017 10:20 am : link
But weird shit happens vs the Eagles. The Giants looked good against them in the first game last year. Never know.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/24/2017 10:22 am : link
We need a healthy Jenkins.
they'll never have a running game with this personel  
micky : 9/24/2017 10:22 am : link
but if they did, that would've been one way to beat this eagle team here.
ESPN...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/24/2017 10:23 am : link
A Giants team official just told Sal Paolantonio that cornerback Janoris Jenkins (ankle) "looked good" in Saturday's team walk through. The official said barring any setback in Jenkins' on-field workout this morning, Jenkins is on track to play against the Eagles.
RE: ESPN...  
WillVAB : 9/24/2017 10:25 am : link
In comment 13612227 Eric from BBI said:
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A Giants team official just told Sal Paolantonio that cornerback Janoris Jenkins (ankle) "looked good" in Saturday's team walk through. The official said barring any setback in Jenkins' on-field workout this morning, Jenkins is on track to play against the Eagles.


That's good news.
Third downs today will be even more critical  
Simms11 : 9/24/2017 10:27 am : link
as heat plays a factor. Offense needs to keep their offense off the field and our D. Another way to slow that pass rush today is wearing them down and then taking it to them in the second half.
RE: Third downs today will be even more critical  
micky : 9/24/2017 10:29 am : link
In comment 13612229 Simms11 said:
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as heat plays a factor. Offense needs to keep their offense off the field and our D. Another way to slow that pass rush today is wearing them down and then taking it to them in the second half.


defense needs to drink a lot of pickle juice..they may be out there 3/4 of the game or more
Expect big  
oldog : 9/24/2017 10:29 am : link
plays from JPP, Vernon, Snacks, Landon, Rogers-Cromartie, Eli, Beckham, Marshall, Engram, Shepard, and if so, how can they lose?
.  
Danny Kanell : 9/24/2017 10:31 am : link
Pulled out the old Eli jersey from 2005 with rips on it from past playoff and Superbowl celebrations from the back of the closet. Desperate times.

#myfuckingquarterback
This Giants defense has more talent overall  
NYG07 : 9/24/2017 10:42 am : link
than any I can think of since I started watching them in 1998. While they have played well, we have yet to see a dominating performance. They need to sack up and carry this team. You want to beat the Eagles? Get after Carson Wentz and take it.
Let's Go Giants!  
Grey Pilgrim : 9/24/2017 10:42 am : link
!!!
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/24/2017 10:48 am : link
Kimberly Jones‏Verified account @KimJonesSports 30s31 seconds ago

#NYG Janoris Jenkins, aka Jackrabbit, will play. No on-field workout. He's a go.
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arcarsenal : 9/24/2017 10:49 am : link
I'm pulling out the old Rodney Hampton jersey today.

I suspect I'll need a lot of alcohol.

Excited to finally have a 1pm though. Hoping for the best...
Win or go home  
The_Boss : 9/24/2017 10:51 am : link
0-3 and your season over before October 1.

It's really that simple.
RE: .  
rdt288 : 9/24/2017 10:52 am : link
In comment 13612237 Danny Kanell said:
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Pulled out the old Eli jersey from 2005 with rips on it from past playoff and Superbowl celebrations from the back of the closet. Desperate times.

#myfuckingquarterback


#alwayselite
RE: I feel like I am heading to the sportsbar today for a funeral  
BigBlueShock : 9/24/2017 10:53 am : link
In comment 13612133 Jints in Carolina said:
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It will be a glorious funeral. The Eagles deserve nothing but the best as we lay them to rest. You will be a happy funeral goer today.
cast on nfl is having a good ole time making fun of eli  
micky : 9/24/2017 10:54 am : link
on live look in at philly lol
RE: RE: I feel like I am heading to the sportsbar today for a funeral  
kelsto811 : 9/24/2017 11:08 am : link
In comment 13612260 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13612133 Jints in Carolina said:


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It will be a glorious funeral. The Eagles deserve nothing but the best as we lay them to rest. You will be a happy funeral goer today.


Love the optimism. Go Gmen!
RE: .  
rdt288 : 9/24/2017 11:09 am : link
In comment 13612237 Danny Kanell said:
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Pulled out the old Eli jersey from 2005 with rips on it from past playoff and Superbowl celebrations from the back of the closet. Desperate times.

#myfuckingquarterback


#alwayselite
a person in giants org told adam schefter  
micky : 9/24/2017 11:13 am : link
that thurs practice was the best they ever had according to their gps.....


keep this in mind...
RE: a person in giants org told adam schefter  
Jimmy Googs : 9/24/2017 11:25 am : link
In comment 13612284 micky said:
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that thurs practice was the best they ever had according to their gps.....


keep this in mind...


And I hit the ball really well warming up on the driving range yesterday too...
RE: RE: a person in giants org told adam schefter  
micky : 9/24/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13612290 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 13612284 micky said:


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that thurs practice was the best they ever had according to their gps.....


keep this in mind...



And I hit the ball really well warming up on the driving range yesterday too...



I know we hear this all The time.......
Today is about honor and self respect.....  
Reb8thVA : 9/24/2017 11:29 am : link

Whats he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin.
If we are marked to die, we are enough
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honor.
Gods will, I pray thee wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honor,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
Gods peace, I would not lose so great an honor
As one man more, methinks, would share from me,
For the best hope I have. Oh, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart. His passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse.
We would not die in that mans company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is called the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day and comes safe home,
Will stand o' tiptoe when the day is named
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall see this day, and live old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbors
And say, Tomorrow is Saint Crispian.
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say, These wounds I had on Crispins day.

Translation: Kick their f**kin ass!
What color jerseys are the Giants wearing today?  
Tom in NY : 9/24/2017 11:31 am : link
Sometimes Phila will wear white early in the season at home?
This might be the least I've ever looked....  
Crispino : 9/24/2017 11:33 am : link
forward to seeing a Giants game. It just feels like another shit show is coming.
Funny all looks like its ready to cave in  
Stu11 : 9/24/2017 11:36 am : link
the coach bickering with the players, the media and fans ready to hang the HC. What this team needs more than anything else is a win. Some how some way.
Go Giants!  
Britt in VA : 9/24/2017 11:38 am : link
!
Just popped open first brew.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/24/2017 11:38 am : link
12 pack of Sweetwater IPA and a 6 pack of Sierra Torpedo.

I might need more by the end of the first quarter.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/24/2017 11:40 am : link
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 52s52 seconds ago

Giants OL Justin Pugh to start at RT, Brett Jones replaces Pugh at LG.
2 replies 23 retweets 8 likes
RE: Just popped open first brew.  
Danny Kanell : 9/24/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13612310 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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12 pack of Sweetwater IPA and a 6 pack of Sierra Torpedo.

I might need more by the end of the first quarter.


I just started too. I'm gonna be legless by 4pm and that's ok.
RE: ...  
micky : 9/24/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13612311 Eric from BBI said:
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Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 52s52 seconds ago

Giants OL Justin Pugh to start at RT, Brett Jones replaces Pugh at LG.
2 replies 23 retweets 8 likes



same as when Hart went out of game..so no "drastic" change
I will remain hopeful  
averagejoe : 9/24/2017 11:47 am : link
until the first 2 yd completion on third and four. Then I will take dogs for a walk.
Watching soccer today  
trueblueinpw : 9/24/2017 11:47 am : link
My youngest has a soccer game at 12:30 so at least Ill enjoy watching one well coached sports team today. Ill bring my radio and have Papa and Banks on at 1 so I wont miss the first half play by play. Very hard for me to see how the Giants get anything good going in the City of Brotherly Brawls. God I hate the Philthy Dirty Birds.

Go Big Blue!
RE: RE: Just popped open first brew.  
WillVAB : 9/24/2017 11:48 am : link
In comment 13612315 Danny Kanell said:
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In comment 13612310 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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12 pack of Sweetwater IPA and a 6 pack of Sierra Torpedo.

I might need more by the end of the first quarter.



I just started too. I'm gonna be legless by 4pm and that's ok.


+1
I  
AcidTest : 9/24/2017 12:00 pm : link
think the Eagles win 23-17. We have a fundamental problem with the OL that will plague us the entire season.
RE: RE: RE: Just popped open first brew.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/24/2017 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13612324 WillVAB said:
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In comment 13612315 Danny Kanell said:


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In comment 13612310 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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12 pack of Sweetwater IPA and a 6 pack of Sierra Torpedo.

I might need more by the end of the first quarter.



I just started too. I'm gonna be legless by 4pm and that's ok.



+1


Hahahaha. I'll probably be wandering the neighborhood by 4, lamenting the end of our season in all likelihood.
RE: I will remain hopeful  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/24/2017 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13612320 averagejoe said:
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until the first 2 yd completion on third and four. Then I will take dogs for a walk.


Read my mind. I think those plays have made me angrier than anything else.
RE: This might be the least I've ever looked....  
gmenatlarge : 9/24/2017 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13612303 Crispino said:
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forward to seeing a Giants game. It just feels like another shit show is coming.


Especially when you know they aren't going to change a single...fucking...thing!
Well-played Reb  
richynyc : 9/24/2017 12:06 pm : link
...always nice to have some words on inspiration from Willy the Shake to hopefully elevate our Gmen's game.

I just bought a couple of big-ass Italian sammiches and porchetta at Faicco's and cheese at Murray's on Bleecker and about to have my second Rickey at Agave. Then home to gird my loins...

I'm not optimistic, but Giant hope must spring eternal...Go Blue!
I'm just hoping for that lucky horseshoe that seems to be perpetually  
jcn56 : 9/24/2017 12:06 pm : link
lodged up Philly's ass when they play us to fall out one of these days, preferably today.

Go Giants!
I sure hope Farman is around  
BigBlueShock : 9/24/2017 12:07 pm : link
to do his thread this week after the Giants win. He's got PLENTY of material to choose from
Fatman  
BigBlueShock : 9/24/2017 12:07 pm : link
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Absolutely zero expectations  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/24/2017 12:10 pm : link
until the OLine is fixed.
Shhhhh! Secret to our victory today....  
Doomster : 9/24/2017 12:13 pm : link
Potassium.....



That plus throwing a peel on the ground against a Philly defender...
RE: I'm just hoping for that lucky horseshoe that seems to be perpetually  
dpinzow : 9/24/2017 12:17 pm : link
In comment 13612364 jcn56 said:
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lodged up Philly's ass when they play us to fall out one of these days, preferably today.

Go Giants!


We need the lucky horseshoe today, I'm afraid
RE: a person in giants org told adam schefter  
gmenatlarge : 9/24/2017 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13612284 micky said:
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that thurs practice was the best they ever had according to their gps.....


keep this in mind...


How many time s after a loss did we hear Coughlin saying how GREAT they practiced all week, means nothing.
It's a Playoff game thats the approach  
Bluesbreaker : 9/24/2017 12:26 pm : link
O-line can pull together and get a ton of help from the Defense and no mistakes on specials . Maybe we can pull this
out but with position changes you just don't know ...
Maybe a turnover and a couple of quick scores early would go a long ways .. Go Giants !
RE: RE: a person in giants org told adam schefter  
PatersonPlank : 9/24/2017 12:26 pm : link
In comment 13612385 gmenatlarge said:
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In comment 13612284 micky said:


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that thurs practice was the best they ever had according to their gps.....


keep this in mind...



How many time s after a loss did we hear Coughlin saying how GREAT they practiced all week, means nothing.


We are a great practice team, and Mac excels at practices
RE: Just popped open first brew.  
OBJRoyal : 9/24/2017 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13612310 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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12 pack of Sweetwater IPA and a 6 pack of Sierra Torpedo.

I might need more by the end of the first quarter.


Just popped a Boston lager.....please play great football today and get a win!!
"No changes here today Kurt"  
WillVAB : 9/24/2017 12:30 pm : link
Not an inspiring intro to the game.
This is going to be ugly  
Ronzo17 : 9/24/2017 12:39 pm : link
Mcapoo is still making play calls and Flowers is still at left tackle. Philly is going to feast on this soft oline. Isn't doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome the definition of insanity.
No changes in sight  
UberAlias : 9/24/2017 12:39 pm : link
Dan Duggan @DDuggan21

10m
No lineup changes on the Giants' first snap of warmups. Perkins the first RB, same OL, Jenkins with first D, etc.
RE: This is going to be ugly  
PatersonPlank : 9/24/2017 12:40 pm : link
In comment 13612410 Ronzo17 said:
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Mcapoo is still making play calls and Flowers is still at left tackle. Philly is going to feast on this soft oline. Isn't doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome the definition of insanity.


At least Pugh is at RT. But yeah I agree, how can any coach keep trotting out the same lineup game after game. Parcells would have ripped this thing up by now.
Best practice this past Thurs...  
rmkabadi : 9/24/2017 12:40 pm : link
I'm sure that was all the defense teeing off on this peewee league offense.
RE: RE: ...  
rmkabadi : 9/24/2017 12:43 pm : link
In comment 13612316 micky said:
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In comment 13612311 Eric from BBI said:


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Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 52s52 seconds ago

Giants OL Justin Pugh to start at RT, Brett Jones replaces Pugh at LG.
2 replies 23 retweets 8 likes




same as when Hart went out of game..so no "drastic" change


Isn't it great that our backup tackle is a rookie UDFA?

I know it's beating a dead horse, but Reese and the Giants front office are paid good money to know more about this stuff than any of us fans. How they thought that they could ignore such a glaring weakness, in term sof the OL, and think that it would be ok...just...beyond...explanation.....
4 defensive backs out for eagles  
micky : 9/24/2017 12:44 pm : link
4! that'll effect db play, st's and nickle packages etc

if this offense can't put at least 20 for once here win or lose...then tomorrow should be a fire sale period..i mean c'mon!
It's hot out there today  
eclipz928 : 9/24/2017 12:47 pm : link
Offense has to control the ball. If the defense is left out there too long it will get ugly quick.
4 DBs out for Eagles.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/24/2017 12:49 pm : link
If our offense can't put up some points today, that would be absolutely pathetic.
RE: 4 defensive backs out for eagles  
PatersonPlank : 9/24/2017 12:55 pm : link
In comment 13612421 micky said:
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4! that'll effect db play, st's and nickle packages etc

if this offense can't put at least 20 for once here win or lose...then tomorrow should be a fire sale period..i mean c'mon!


I'm not sure teams actually use the back 4 against us anyway.
we need  
BIGbluegermany : 9/24/2017 12:56 pm : link
the defense.JPP and OV have to produce big numbers today,whithout that it will be a long long day.
tossback  
gm7b5 : 9/24/2017 1:27 pm : link
to get a yard
why  
gm7b5 : 9/24/2017 1:28 pm : link
turn a one yd gain into a five yd gain with a line with no punch smh
coughlin  
gm7b5 : 9/24/2017 1:28 pm : link
used to run that crap too
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