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Short history of athlete's political protests

Alan in Toledo : 9/24/2017 11:31 am
Worthwhile wondering what Tommie Smith and John Carlos make of the current protest circus initiated last year by Colin Kaepernick and recently converted into a major issue of the day between our president and superstar athletes.

All three medalists in the 1968 200 meters were banished/shunned as was a Czech gymnast for a separate silent protest.

Protests are still condemned by many -- but not with the kind of punishment given in 1968.

Irrelevant aside: Dan Hanley served as chief physician at the 1968 Mexico City Olympics. He set my broken nose from coming down face first on the diving board from a mis-judged back jackknife in my freshman year at Bowdoin.
Kaepernick vs. Tebow - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/24/2017 11:55 am : link
This is bound to turn political. I suggest you delete.
Bottom line ....  
TommytheElephant : 9/24/2017 11:59 am : link
Ereck Flowers still sucks


Go Giants
Its becoming  
Rover : 9/24/2017 12:00 pm : link
almost impossible now to talk football without it being political given the tweet storm.
RE: Its becoming  
jcn56 : 9/24/2017 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13612345 Rover said:
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almost impossible now to talk football without it being political given the tweet storm.


Are people kneeling during plays or refusing to catch footballs? Somehow, that statement doesn't seem accurate.
Relevant to NYG  
aquidneck : 9/24/2017 12:04 pm : link
Relevant to fans. Our ownership has made a public statement.
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WillVAB : 9/24/2017 12:05 pm : link
In comment 13612334 Eric from BBI said:
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This is bound to turn political. I suggest you delete.


Turn on FOX. It's approaching unavoidable territory.
Players sitting and disrespecting our flag, national anthem  
giant24 : 9/24/2017 12:07 pm : link
Military and police on foreign soil and then showing respect and standing for the U.K. National Anthem!! Sad day for our country
I turned on Fox  
bluesince56 : 9/24/2017 12:12 pm : link
to hear about football and got a political speech.
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bluesince56 : 9/24/2017 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13612334 Eric from BBI said:
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This is bound to turn political. I suggest you delete.



Eric, political discussions should be limited to CNN or Fox not here. Thanks you for your stand on this matter.
When you can't kick back on a Sunday  
Bluesbreaker : 9/24/2017 12:17 pm : link
and watch a game and not have to be reminded of the friggen
horseshit thats going on everywhere .
Keep the political out of the conversation period its bad enough you can't say boo without offending some weak minded shill . Keep it to Football pretty simple
IIRC, last year during the National Anthem  
short lease : 9/24/2017 12:32 pm : link
at the beginning of the 1st game (first game only?), Kapernick sat ... SAT on the bench during the National Anthem .. and I remember thinking

"This guy is an a-hole."


But, after that (the first game) - he started taking a knee.

IMHO, taking a knee shows more reverence to something than standing there with your hand over your heart. Taking a knee is something a lot of people do in church at the most important parts of the Mass.

When he started taking a knee - my opinion changed. I support his right to express himself during the Anthem in a way that does not come off as disrespectful (imo). All he SEEMS to be saying is

"I am going to respect and honor the Flag but, because of the injustice that I perceive going on around the Country, I am going to express myself in this way."

Maybe, I am missing something but, taking a knee does bother me. Sitting on the bench bothered me.


One last thing ... why doesn't the NFL (and other sports for that matter) just get rid of that tradition anyway. I am not sure when it got started or why it is soooo important to have the National Anthem performed before a sporting event?

RE: Its becoming  
mfsd : 9/24/2017 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13612345 Rover said:
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almost impossible now to talk football without it being political given the tweet storm.


No it's not. Plenty of games to talk about this weekend.
RE: When you can't kick back on a Sunday  
Sonic Youth : 9/24/2017 12:35 pm : link
In comment 13612380 Bluesbreaker said:
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and watch a game and not have to be reminded of the friggen
horseshit thats going on everywhere .
Keep the political out of the conversation period its bad enough you can't say boo without offending some weak minded shill . Keep it to Football pretty simple
Hey look, it's the tool who throws the word "fag" around and thinks everyone else is "PC".

That was a brilliant post you had the other day about some dipshit gif!!!

Top minds of BBI here, between bluesbreaker and giant24
All I'll say  
lawguy9801 : 9/24/2017 12:37 pm : link
is that if NFL owners and Goodell were to set out to devise a way to respond to Trump's comments in a manner that maximizes empty stadiums and ratings continuing to drop, they couldnt have picked a better way.

And then we'll be treated to more articles asking, "duh, doh, why are ratings continuing to fall"?
Yes, because it's apparent that the NFL has been having a hard time  
jcn56 : 9/24/2017 12:39 pm : link
making money. I wonder when they start passing around a hat.
Play ball!  
Ryan in Albany : 9/24/2017 12:42 pm : link
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Think it's indistinguishable now  
mattlawson : 9/24/2017 12:45 pm : link
If this isn't a place to talk about - where?

Time to make a basement if that's what has to be done
RE: All I'll say  
Sonic Youth : 9/24/2017 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13612408 lawguy9801 said:
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is that if NFL owners and Goodell were to set out to devise a way to respond to Trump's comments in a manner that maximizes empty stadiums and ratings continuing to drop, they couldnt have picked a better way.

And then we'll be treated to more articles asking, "duh, doh, why are ratings continuing to fall"?
you're right, maybe they should have taken his advice and "fired players"!

/sarcasm
RE: Think it's indistinguishable now  
jcn56 : 9/24/2017 12:46 pm : link
In comment 13612424 mattlawson said:
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If this isn't a place to talk about - where?

Time to make a basement if that's what has to be done


It literally doesn't affect the game in any way. There's no suspensions, no retirements, no protests that affect play in any way.

Relevant for discussion? Maybe. Related to actual football, and not political statements being made? Hardly.

And if people cared enough to vote with their pockets, wouldn't Hollywood also be suffering? Not like they're exactly balanced with their political affiliations.
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j_rud : 9/24/2017 12:57 pm : link
In comment 13612334 Eric from BBI said:
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This is bound to turn political. I suggest you delete.


Athletes in protest ------> political comments ------> happy birthday wishes



It's a slippery slope, but fuckin snowflakes man, what can ya do?
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Alan in Toledo : 9/24/2017 5:42 pm : link
In comment 13612334 Eric from BBI said:
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This is bound to turn political. I suggest you delete.


It's become the topic of the day and I did my best to keep it low key and non-political.

Isn't the connection to the Mexico City games compelling?
Maybe if he wasn't kneeling  
Sarcastic Sam : 9/24/2017 5:48 pm : link
Vernon wouldn't have injured his ankle.
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