I was. I remember the futile teams of Jerry Golsteyn, Randy Dean, Joe Pisarcik, Craig Morton, and Steve Ramsey. I remember when our only pro bowler was our punter Dave Jennings.
"Back then, the Giants owners were knee deep in the football decisions which was one of the biggest problems. Once George Young came to the team, Wellington took a back seat. We know Chris Mara is heavily involved in the player selection process and I get the feeling that John is now much more involved than his father."
During the recent SB years, Tisch seemed to be the main spokesman for ownership. Then, starting 4-5 years ago it was all John, and his quotes about team-building decisions were always worded so as to suggest he was involved in the decisions. This made my blood run cold. You think the Giants aren't likely to replace a GM? What are the chances of replacing an owner?
terrible football, those teams had very little talent but this current version has a lot of talent, so what's the problem. Is it heart, is it courage, is it coaching, or I am over estimating the talent level?
Dad has had his seats since the polo grounds.Went to my first game in 60 at the age of four (preseason)at Princeton ,first real game in Yankee Stadium at 7 years old.Went to College in MA and went to all the Yale Bowl Games,so yeah you can say I have seen it all .The 70's suck but we had some good D, John Mendenhall,,Brian Kelly ,Harry Carson,Brad VanPelt,Jim Hughs.
Polo Grounds paid 50 cents to sit in the bleachers.Had tickets in Yankee Stadium sat behind 1st base.They were great for baseball but horrible for football.Hadto listen to Marty Glickman on radio to know what was happening.Went to Yale Bowl for some lousy football.Moved to St.Louis in 75 and rarely saw The Giants except when they came to St.Louis or on TV when they played in New York.Oncein awhile on Monday night with Howard Cossel. Retired in 85 and moved To Fort Myers Florida where we got lots of Giant games but now have to go to Potts to be with great Giant fans.Through the years I saw many good games and some. Disasters.If you wait long enough the ship will straighten out.Patience Patience Patience.I turned 90 yesterday and always hope that I may live long enough to see that 5th trophy.
Polo Grounds paid 50 cents to sit in the bleachers.Had tickets in Yankee Stadium sat behind 1st base.They were great for baseball but horrible for football.Hadto listen to Marty Glickman on radio to know what was happening.Went to Yale Bowl for some lousy football.Moved to St.Louis in 75 and rarely saw The Giants except when they came to St.Louis or on TV when they played in New York.Oncein awhile on Monday night with Howard Cossel. Retired in 85 and moved To Fort Myers Florida where we got lots of Giant games but now have to go to Potts to be with great Giant fans.Through the years I saw many good games and some. Disasters.If you wait long enough the ship will straighten out.Patience Patience Patience.I turned 90 yesterday and always hope that I may live long enough to see that 5th trophy.
Happy Birthday Turkey
you sat through a lot of games with my Dad, Grandfathers and Uncles, you are right
and my dad raised me a Giants fan, so my memories go far back into the 70s. I distinctly remember having a Giants-Eagles game on the radio and we won 62-10 (just looked, that was Nov '72). Other than that, yeah, the 70s were sheer misery. I've earned all the good things that came after.
You weren't making the playoffs, you weren't winning games with that offense.
Pisarcik/Goldsteyn/Dean. ROCK BOTTOM.
It's hard now, because of the potential the Giants are wasting. In 77-79, there was no such potential.
There was Larry Csonka wasting a year of his life running behind that useless line. A year later, he ran for over a thousand going back to Miami.
Worth pointing out though - the misery of those years made the 80's all the sweeter. That first Super Bowl was the greatest in many ways, but for me it was knowing what rock bottom felt like that made XXI so wonderful.
Polo Grounds paid 50 cents to sit in the bleachers.Had tickets in Yankee Stadium sat behind 1st base.They were great for baseball but horrible for football.Hadto listen to Marty Glickman on radio to know what was happening.Went to Yale Bowl for some lousy football.Moved to St.Louis in 75 and rarely saw The Giants except when they came to St.Louis or on TV when they played in New York.Oncein awhile on Monday night with Howard Cossel. Retired in 85 and moved To Fort Myers Florida where we got lots of Giant games but now have to go to Potts to be with great Giant fans.Through the years I saw many good games and some. Disasters.If you wait long enough the ship will straighten out.Patience Patience Patience.I turned 90 yesterday and always hope that I may live long enough to see that 5th trophy.
My dad is 89, raised in the Bronx, and he probably was at the some of the same games you were at. One of his favorite players was Mel Hein.
Have memories, back to the mid-sixties - when things started to go downhill. Wonder how many Giant fans know that they had Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry as assistant coaches, but somehow ended up with Allie Sherman as head coach.
Giants had the first pick in the 1965 draft, went with Tucker Fredrickson over Dick Butkus, Gale Sayers, and Joe Namath, among others.
They had Tom Coughlin & Bill Belichick as assistant coaches and would up with Ray Handley too. 2017 is nothing like the 60/70's because it's just 3 games and that was 15 years. But it certainly has small sample size similarities. From the reemergence of the Mara family picking the players. To the OL being so bad and so obvious and nothing being done to fix it that it ruins the entire team and sucks the life out of the defense. To hiring a head coach who is totally over matched. I understand why old time Giant fans are remembering the 70's.
and in the first 3 quarters yesterday, I was having
Joe Pisarcik flashbacks. I had to take a break at the end of the 3rd, for the last 3 minutes or so after it was 14-0.
Just thoroughly disgusted with what I was seeing!
10 yrs old in 1965, from then till now, at least today.
I remember listening on the radio to the play by play with Earl Morrall at QB. Then came Gary Wood. My favorites were Homer Jones, Joe Morrison, and Ernie Koy. We had hope when Fran Tarkenton came and Tucker Frederickson returned from injury but... 68 was when I was buying sporting magazines with Giants articles. The 70 season was suppose to be the one. Then we lost to the Rams at home. I begged my parents to drive me south to a cousin's house who had a rotating antenna and could pick up Philly TV where the game was being broadcast. Still remember....
My whole life watching and rooting and loosing over a decade with a loosing team. Problem is that there is not a decade left to give to loosing , especially with talent. Have seen a lot of bad coaches, bad decisions, but this is starting to be the biggest disappointment in all those years. It was just so nice to walk through the Dallas airport with a Giants superbowl shirt when I went there in 1987 !
During the recent SB years, Tisch seemed to be the main spokesman for ownership. Then, starting 4-5 years ago it was all John, and his quotes about team-building decisions were always worded so as to suggest he was involved in the decisions. This made my blood run cold. You think the Giants aren't likely to replace a GM? What are the chances of replacing an owner?
This team is not nearly as bad as the teams of that era.
what you said... me. first game 1968 this is nothing compared to Joe Pisarack
Happy Birthday Turkey
you sat through a lot of games with my Dad, Grandfathers and Uncles, you are right
You weren't making the playoffs, you weren't winning games with that offense.
Pisarcik/Goldsteyn/Dean. ROCK BOTTOM.
It's hard now, because of the potential the Giants are wasting. In 77-79, there was no such potential.
There was Larry Csonka wasting a year of his life running behind that useless line. A year later, he ran for over a thousand going back to Miami.
Worth pointing out though - the misery of those years made the 80's all the sweeter. That first Super Bowl was the greatest in many ways, but for me it was knowing what rock bottom felt like that made XXI so wonderful.
Waynesburg. SW Pennsylvania, a DII school.
My dad is 89, raised in the Bronx, and he probably was at the some of the same games you were at. One of his favorite players was Mel Hein.
Giants had the first pick in the 1965 draft, went with Tucker Fredrickson over Dick Butkus, Gale Sayers, and Joe Namath, among others.
Joe Pisarcik flashbacks. I had to take a break at the end of the 3rd, for the last 3 minutes or so after it was 14-0.
Just thoroughly disgusted with what I was seeing!
My whole life watching and rooting and loosing over a decade with a loosing team. Problem is that there is not a decade left to give to loosing , especially with talent. Have seen a lot of bad coaches, bad decisions, but this is starting to be the biggest disappointment in all those years. It was just so nice to walk through the Dallas airport with a Giants superbowl shirt when I went there in 1987 !