On the other hand, using the n-word is virtually indefensible. She really needs to apologize for that.
Yeah, it's definitely a questionable tweet. The thing is though, it's so starkly different from the other random tweets of hers that it looks like she's quoting someone else, especially since it follows an account name and a :. I mean, it doesn't even make any sense. What the hell does THATS 10 TIMES TRILLER mean?
Why? So one's racist past can't catch up to them? So that Cam can be slammed for his sexist remarks... but she can't because no one would know about her racist tweets?
My post was in general.
But since you asked, it's actually the opposite, a. so people didn't have the ability to say all that stupid sh-t to the masses, and b. so the social media PC mobs couldn't rabble rouse major companies to take away endorsements or get people fired over fairly minor sh-t.
Regarding a, as has been said many times lately, I'd rather people get their stupidity out in the open for everyone to see so that I can KNOW whether your a racist POS (like her and her family) rather than not know.
Regarding b, do you feel like Dannon unfairly removed their endorsement from CAM? You didn't seem to have a problem with that (or if you did I missed it and apologize in advance) then. Not to mention, racist tweets are anything but minor shit if you ask me.
It is an overreaction by Dannon but maybe they were just looking for an excuse to go with someone else. He should have been more careful with what he said but he gave her a real answer. He didn't answer her question in a condescending manner!
Are trying to protect/maximize.He's a paid spokesperson, and this is negative attention. I don't blame them at all. I don't fault companies at all for being quick to sever these relationships.
If Dannon was found to be treating female employees unfairly and Cam decided that he no longer wanted to be associated with them, we'd be applauded for that decision.
Thats a knee-jerk reaction IMO. The US is PC crazy.
I called it this morning at around 9am. Also, this is not knee jerk. He has not been the best ambassador and he is not bringing much to the table from a brand perspective and if anything having the brand hitched to him now could do more damage than good. Think how many new consumers they may get because of the swift action and position they took on this. It is actually a marketing win
he clearly meant to belittle a woman asking him an honest question, one that he would have answered normally if a man asked it. He's a moron, it's on him not the media.
he clearly meant to belittle a woman asking him an honest question, one that he would have answered normally if a man asked it. He's a moron, it's on him not the media.
well, I understand all day media channels need something to fill space, at least this is real news and you don't need any journalism skill to report on it.
and when times change and the joke is dated then it stops. I don't get the indignation as if someone killed their child. Everyone is trying to be perfect.
Can someone point me to all of these beautiful women Â
Who can break down a route tree? I'd marry them in a heartbeat. Seems like the "fans" you find at games just wanna look cute and don't know whose jersey they're wearing...
I've noticed the trend where a lot of women young girls tend to wear away jerseys at games because I guess they like getting yelled at and degraded by men. Sexist comments mostly, I guess it turns them on for whatever weird reason they seek out any attention.
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and when times change and the joke is dated then it stops. I don't get the indignation as if someone killed their child. Everyone is trying to be perfect.
Yep. Like men don't get ripped on out in the open by women ever lol
ask why are they all over Cam Newton's one-off bullshit faux pax, yet nary a whisper on Harvey Weinstein, the Hollywood scumbag who actually sexually harrassed women.
RE: Can someone point me to all of these beautiful women Â
Who can break down a route tree? I'd marry them in a heartbeat. Seems like the "fans" you find at games just wanna look cute and don't know whose jersey they're wearing...
I've noticed the trend where a lot of women young girls tend to wear away jerseys at games because I guess they like getting yelled at and degraded by men. Sexist comments mostly, I guess it turns them on for whatever weird reason they seek out any attention.
he was suprised how well a woman knew about computers, I would not care. If she told me that the owner of the company, asked her to come massage his naked body, that would anger me. You twits should worry about real issues not stuff that has ZERO impact.
Better than answering what the ratio of away fans Â
he was suprised how well a woman knew about computers, I would not care. If she told me that the owner of the company, asked her to come massage his naked body, that would anger me. You twits should worry about real issues not stuff that has ZERO impact.
WHy does it have to be one or the other, you twit? Why can Weinstein be a creul horrible man and Newton a moron?
Some of you people are ridiculous.
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he was suprised how well a woman knew about computers, I would not care.
Well, as usual, it depends.
I attend meetings with our engineers and developers all the time, and sometimes I utter a technical term that registers a bit of surprise on their face. Usually, there are several layers of subtle humor involved, some of it even self-deprecating on their part: "Wow, someone else actually knows about our nerdy shit!" Everyone departs from the meeting just fine.
What has never happened to me is an engineer acting exactly like Cam, smirking as I'm still talking after uttering a technical phrase, and then laughing: "That's funny. A documentation writer talking about OAuth tokens. That's just funny." In that case? Again, I'd want to punch that fucker.
to locker room talk seem misguided since probably more than half of the country disapproved of that behavior.
I'm fairly certain the number of people in the USA offended by the "bus talk" vastly outnumber those upset at Cam's.
By probably at least a magnitude of 20.
LOL! Yeah... ok.
I won't go any further since I don't want either one of us to get banned. I'll just leave you with the last word on it.
Are you rally implying that more people are offended by Cam's comments than those offended by a truly racist comment? Not crap that she tweeted. That's stupid crap that hinted at racism.
I suggest you move to a more enlightened part of the Country if that's the case. Come to North Jersey where culture, tolerance and open mindedness thrive.
the whole N word thing to me is complete nonsense Â
Black people have had a huge huge positive impact on pop culture. They have left a mark all over music and Hollywood. Some of the funniest, innovative and inspiring stand up comedians are or were black.
And they ALL USE THE N WORD! All the time! And not only do they use the N word, they use in ways that lessen its derogatory nature. Black people with influence have gone out of their way to vault the N word. They use it as a term of endearment. They use it as a term of brotherhood. They use it comically. They use it often. They use it publicly.
I just don't get it. The word gets thrown around so often these days in so many innocuous ways, yet it still angers, and surprises black people when a white person uses Ni**A --which in and of itself is NOT Ni**ER--and still everyone gets up n arms about it.
Here's an idea.... stop saying it. Everyone. Just stop. MAybe then the white chick trying to sound cool won't say it anymore.
the word is awful. It's very existence conjures up the very worst moments in mankind's history. It's ignorant. It's hurtful. It's evil. But the word has been softened over the last 20 years or so. White people want to say ni**a because it's "kind of" cool --it's hip. I know it's a slippery slope but I think there can be some room for interpretation--or maybe not.
It's just another one of life's many double standards. I just can't label someone racist because they tweeted ni**a. I'd say they are pretty stupid at the very least.
Are you rally implying that more people are offended by Cam's comments than those offended by a truly racist comment? Not crap that she tweeted. That's stupid crap that hinted at racism.
I wouldn't even say that. What she tweeted was stuff that referenced the word racism.
oh, and she re-tweeted this from a parody account Â
can we stop giving people so much credit for heart felt apologies while we're at it???
Not to shit all over you, Santa, but we have morphed into a society that places wayyyyyyy too much credence on saying the right things at the right times. It doesn't take much to fake nice. IT doesn't take much other than an ability to lie. Cam is or isn't a dooshbag--who really knows. His body language doesn't endear himself to many, but that apology video should be stricken from the record when we write the book on this guy's character many years from now. Follow the fucking money. Wow he said sorry...big deal. I've said sorry before too...and I didn't mean a lick of it.
Cam will hopefully be judged on his actions. Not some horse crap video that he only made when the backlash hit him right in the face.
to locker room talk seem misguided since probably more than half of the country disapproved of that behavior.
I'm fairly certain the number of people in the USA offended by the "bus talk" vastly outnumber those upset at Cam's.
By probably at least a magnitude of 20.
LOL! Yeah... ok.
I won't go any further since I don't want either one of us to get banned. I'll just leave you with the last word on it.
Are you rally implying that more people are offended by Cam's comments than those offended by a truly racist comment? Not crap that she tweeted. That's stupid crap that hinted at racism.
I suggest you move to a more enlightened part of the Country if that's the case. Come to North Jersey where culture, tolerance and open mindedness thrive.
Geez... try to leave shit alone...
Look, all I know is Cam has lost endorsements and been called every name in the book... despite the good things for charities he's done in the past. I'm not the biggest CAm fan in the world, but I also know realize that sometimes even good people says dumb things. Which is what he did. Meanwhile, the reporter has been found to have tweeted racist comments and all I've been seeing are excuses as to why what she did isn't all that bad. I don't have to move anywhere to see the double-standard. What Cam said was stupid... what she tweeted was stupid... but only a few want to see it that way. If you ask me, her tweets were much worse than what he said, but by the insults hurled his way by so many, it appears my thoughts are in the minority. Meanwhile the very same people who are condemning Cam for his words are some of the same people who still voted for a guy who had the 'bus talk'. Go figure.
As for your rant about the 'n word'... it's just amazing to me why it pisses some off that there's just ONE word that black people do not want be called by anyone of ANY race and yet it appears that it's that one word that everyone feels like they either should be ok to say or that no one should say it. How about this... it's not up to YOU to decide what's ok for me to be called. Period. In some cases, some black people seem to have no problem with someone they know and trust using that word with regards to them... but if they say it to another black person... prepared to face whatever consequences may arise from that decision. There are plenty of black people who won't tolerate being called that word no matter how or who (even other black people) calls them it. So it's not just universally accepted that it's ok to use by all black people despite what you may think.
You can say you 'get it' all you want... but it doesn't appear to be the case. I hear women all the time refer to themselves and other women as 'bitches'... and yet if someone else where to call them a bitch, they're ready to throw hands. Not the exact same thing I know but, IMO, it's close. IMO, black people have started using it as a way of taking 'ownership' of the word. WE have decided that if another black person uses it... as long as it's a term of endearment (or just not as an insult)... it's fine. Like Chris Rock once said, "I love black people, but I hate niggas!".
Fact is you don't 'get it' because you 'won't get it' as to why I have more of a problem with her tweets than what Newton said.
if you don't mind, I'd like to go ahead and leave this topic alone as they've both apologized and as far as I'm concerned I've moved on. Maybe you can too?
This site is jumping the shark with its constant pissing matches Â
What do we specialize in rudeness here? Go judge your mother or father the same way. The cyber bulling and hypocrisy is nauseating .
We can't discuss politics because of the ugliness that it brings.Now we can barely talk sports
Meanwhile, the reporter has been found to have tweeted racist comments and all I've been seeing are excuses as to why what she did isn't all that bad.
Not from me... I've been denying that her comments aren't actually racist at all. Shit, she didn't even talk about a race in any of them. She just typed the word "racist" and forwarded a tweet from a parody account.
Again, if that's the standard for what exposes a racist these days, I'm fucked for having spammed all my friends with Onion shit like this.
Meanwhile, the reporter has been found to have tweeted racist comments and all I've been seeing are excuses as to why what she did isn't all that bad.
Not from me... I've been denying that her comments aren't actually racist at all. Shit, she didn't even talk about a race in any of them. She just typed the word "racist" and forwarded a tweet from a parody account.
Again, if that's the standard for what exposes a racist these days, I'm fucked for having spammed all my friends with Onion shit like this.
If that’s what you choose to believe, fine. I don’t really care to try to change your mind. This has been a very petty ‘story’ to begin with and am not really interested in continuing on with the topic. As far as I’m concorned they both said/done some dumb shit and have both apologized. So I’m done discussing this topic and would like to move on... please?
That's a stupid interpretation of her words. Like, really... saying the word 'racist' doesn't make the speaker of a sentence racist, unless this sentence is also an example of me being a racist.
Are we really taking tweets from years ago as any kind of relevant Â
I used to try to shift blame off me when I was a kid if I did something wrong by ratting out someone else for misbehaving. But that was when I 8 years old. Why are adults doing this?
After careful thought I understand that my word choice was extremely degrading and hurtful to women and, to be honest, that was not my intentions.
If you are a person who took offense to what I said, I sincerely apologize to you.
I'm a man who tries to be a positive role model in my community and tries to use my platform to inspire others.
I take ownership to everything that comes with that and what I did was extremely unacceptable.
I'm a father to two beautiful daughters and at their age I try to instill in them that they can do and be anything that they want to be.
The fact that during this whole process I've already lost sponsors and fans, I realize that the joke really is on me.
I've learned a valuable lesson from this. To the young people who see this, I hope that you learn something from this as well.
Don't be like me. Be better than me.
To the reporters, to the journalists, to the moms, supermoms, to the daughters, sisters and the women all around the world, I sincerely apologize and hope that you can find the kindness in your heart to forgive me.'
The one thing I can't stand when famous people make public apologies is when they say the words "I made a mistake". Cam didn't do that, which is why I thought it was a sincere apology. If he says something offensive like that again we can all kill him for it, but I think it's time to move on.
Where the hell have you been? It's 2017, bro. Making up excuses and finger pointing is what is acceptable and everyone has an excuse in queue for their mishaps or and when they're called out on their bullshit. Who the hell exactly owns up to anything, when you clearly never have to anymore? The key is to deny and blame others for your woes.
On the other hand, using the n-word is virtually indefensible. She really needs to apologize for that.
Yeah, it's definitely a questionable tweet. The thing is though, it's so starkly different from the other random tweets of hers that it looks like she's quoting someone else, especially since it follows an account name and a :. I mean, it doesn't even make any sense. What the hell does THATS 10 TIMES TRILLER mean?
You can be in favor of 1st amendment rights and still be a racist.
But can you point out that another person is being racist and still not be a racist? I think so.
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happening, would you? I would.
Why? So one's racist past can't catch up to them? So that Cam can be slammed for his sexist remarks... but she can't because no one would know about her racist tweets?
My post was in general.
But since you asked, it's actually the opposite, a. so people didn't have the ability to say all that stupid sh-t to the masses, and b. so the social media PC mobs couldn't rabble rouse major companies to take away endorsements or get people fired over fairly minor sh-t.
Regarding a, as has been said many times lately, I'd rather people get their stupidity out in the open for everyone to see so that I can KNOW whether your a racist POS (like her and her family) rather than not know.
Regarding b, do you feel like Dannon unfairly removed their endorsement from CAM? You didn't seem to have a problem with that (or if you did I missed it and apologize in advance) then. Not to mention, racist tweets are anything but minor shit if you ask me.
It is an overreaction by Dannon but maybe they were just looking for an excuse to go with someone else. He should have been more careful with what he said but he gave her a real answer. He didn't answer her question in a condescending manner!
When will we stop looking for reasons to crush people, and just let things slide and try to get along.
If Dannon was found to be treating female employees unfairly and Cam decided that he no longer wanted to be associated with them, we'd be applauded for that decision.
I called it this morning at around 9am. Also, this is not knee jerk. He has not been the best ambassador and he is not bringing much to the table from a brand perspective and if anything having the brand hitched to him now could do more damage than good. Think how many new consumers they may get because of the swift action and position they took on this. It is actually a marketing win
stupid thing said by a man-child, but it was on the news the whole day and when it wasn't it was scrolling on the bottom?
well, I understand all day media channels need something to fill space, at least this is real news and you don't need any journalism skill to report on it.
I've noticed the trend where a lot of women young girls tend to wear away jerseys at games because I guess they like getting yelled at and degraded by men. Sexist comments mostly, I guess it turns them on for whatever weird reason they seek out any attention.
Yep. Like men don't get ripped on out in the open by women ever lol
I always yell to Kim at games, I'm like what the hell was that? For the Lions game. She shook her head in disgust.
I've noticed the trend where a lot of women young girls tend to wear away jerseys at games because I guess they like getting yelled at and degraded by men. Sexist comments mostly, I guess it turns them on for whatever weird reason they seek out any attention.
What the hell is this?
WHy does it have to be one or the other, you twit? Why can Weinstein be a creul horrible man and Newton a moron?
Some of you people are ridiculous.
When will we stop looking for reasons to crush people, and just let things slide and try to get along.
And that's what I meant in regards to social media. It's lame.
Well, as usual, it depends.
I attend meetings with our engineers and developers all the time, and sometimes I utter a technical term that registers a bit of surprise on their face. Usually, there are several layers of subtle humor involved, some of it even self-deprecating on their part: "Wow, someone else actually knows about our nerdy shit!" Everyone departs from the meeting just fine.
What has never happened to me is an engineer acting exactly like Cam, smirking as I'm still talking after uttering a technical phrase, and then laughing: "That's funny. A documentation writer talking about OAuth tokens. That's just funny." In that case? Again, I'd want to punch that fucker.
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to locker room talk seem misguided since probably more than half of the country disapproved of that behavior.
I'm fairly certain the number of people in the USA offended by the "bus talk" vastly outnumber those upset at Cam's.
By probably at least a magnitude of 20.
LOL! Yeah... ok.
I won't go any further since I don't want either one of us to get banned. I'll just leave you with the last word on it.
Are you rally implying that more people are offended by Cam's comments than those offended by a truly racist comment? Not crap that she tweeted. That's stupid crap that hinted at racism.
I suggest you move to a more enlightened part of the Country if that's the case. Come to North Jersey where culture, tolerance and open mindedness thrive.
And they ALL USE THE N WORD! All the time! And not only do they use the N word, they use in ways that lessen its derogatory nature. Black people with influence have gone out of their way to vault the N word. They use it as a term of endearment. They use it as a term of brotherhood. They use it comically. They use it often. They use it publicly.
I just don't get it. The word gets thrown around so often these days in so many innocuous ways, yet it still angers, and surprises black people when a white person uses Ni**A --which in and of itself is NOT Ni**ER--and still everyone gets up n arms about it.
Here's an idea.... stop saying it. Everyone. Just stop. MAybe then the white chick trying to sound cool won't say it anymore.
It's just another one of life's many double standards. I just can't label someone racist because they tweeted ni**a. I'd say they are pretty stupid at the very least.
Are you rally implying that more people are offended by Cam's comments than those offended by a truly racist comment? Not crap that she tweeted. That's stupid crap that hinted at racism.
I wouldn't even say that. What she tweeted was stuff that referenced the word racism.
Which is sort of like me being called a racist in the future when someone finds out how frequently I forwarded The Onion's Herbert Kornfeld columns.
Not to shit all over you, Santa, but we have morphed into a society that places wayyyyyyy too much credence on saying the right things at the right times. It doesn't take much to fake nice. IT doesn't take much other than an ability to lie. Cam is or isn't a dooshbag--who really knows. His body language doesn't endear himself to many, but that apology video should be stricken from the record when we write the book on this guy's character many years from now. Follow the fucking money. Wow he said sorry...big deal. I've said sorry before too...and I didn't mean a lick of it.
Cam will hopefully be judged on his actions. Not some horse crap video that he only made when the backlash hit him right in the face.
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to locker room talk seem misguided since probably more than half of the country disapproved of that behavior.
I'm fairly certain the number of people in the USA offended by the "bus talk" vastly outnumber those upset at Cam's.
By probably at least a magnitude of 20.
LOL! Yeah... ok.
I won't go any further since I don't want either one of us to get banned. I'll just leave you with the last word on it.
Are you rally implying that more people are offended by Cam's comments than those offended by a truly racist comment? Not crap that she tweeted. That's stupid crap that hinted at racism.
I suggest you move to a more enlightened part of the Country if that's the case. Come to North Jersey where culture, tolerance and open mindedness thrive.
Geez... try to leave shit alone...
Look, all I know is Cam has lost endorsements and been called every name in the book... despite the good things for charities he's done in the past. I'm not the biggest CAm fan in the world, but I also know realize that sometimes even good people says dumb things. Which is what he did. Meanwhile, the reporter has been found to have tweeted racist comments and all I've been seeing are excuses as to why what she did isn't all that bad. I don't have to move anywhere to see the double-standard. What Cam said was stupid... what she tweeted was stupid... but only a few want to see it that way. If you ask me, her tweets were much worse than what he said, but by the insults hurled his way by so many, it appears my thoughts are in the minority. Meanwhile the very same people who are condemning Cam for his words are some of the same people who still voted for a guy who had the 'bus talk'. Go figure.
As for your rant about the 'n word'... it's just amazing to me why it pisses some off that there's just ONE word that black people do not want be called by anyone of ANY race and yet it appears that it's that one word that everyone feels like they either should be ok to say or that no one should say it. How about this... it's not up to YOU to decide what's ok for me to be called. Period. In some cases, some black people seem to have no problem with someone they know and trust using that word with regards to them... but if they say it to another black person... prepared to face whatever consequences may arise from that decision. There are plenty of black people who won't tolerate being called that word no matter how or who (even other black people) calls them it. So it's not just universally accepted that it's ok to use by all black people despite what you may think.
You can say you 'get it' all you want... but it doesn't appear to be the case. I hear women all the time refer to themselves and other women as 'bitches'... and yet if someone else where to call them a bitch, they're ready to throw hands. Not the exact same thing I know but, IMO, it's close. IMO, black people have started using it as a way of taking 'ownership' of the word. WE have decided that if another black person uses it... as long as it's a term of endearment (or just not as an insult)... it's fine. Like Chris Rock once said, "I love black people, but I hate niggas!".
Fact is you don't 'get it' because you 'won't get it' as to why I have more of a problem with her tweets than what Newton said.
We can't discuss politics because of the ugliness that it brings.Now we can barely talk sports
Cam will hopefully be judged on his actions. Not some horse crap video that he only made when the backlash hit him right in the face.
Oh, I definitely agree. I'm simply saying that he surprised and impressed me. It's the only time I've seen him talk into a camera with repulsing me.
It would be like if Trump suddenly regales his TV audience with an eloquent, improvised dissertation on Voltaire.
Not from me... I've been denying that her comments aren't actually racist at all. Shit, she didn't even talk about a race in any of them. She just typed the word "racist" and forwarded a tweet from a parody account.
Again, if that's the standard for what exposes a racist these days, I'm fucked for having spammed all my friends with Onion shit like this.
It's a common practice. It's culturally good. The offending group having to hear it and not be able to say it is the world's smallest payback.
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Meanwhile, the reporter has been found to have tweeted racist comments and all I've been seeing are excuses as to why what she did isn't all that bad.
Not from me... I've been denying that her comments aren't actually racist at all. Shit, she didn't even talk about a race in any of them. She just typed the word "racist" and forwarded a tweet from a parody account.
Again, if that's the standard for what exposes a racist these days, I'm fucked for having spammed all my friends with Onion shit like this.
If that’s what you choose to believe, fine. I don’t really care to try to change your mind. This has been a very petty ‘story’ to begin with and am not really interested in continuing on with the topic. As far as I’m concorned they both said/done some dumb shit and have both apologized. So I’m done discussing this topic and would like to move on... please?
nope, threads over.
I used to try to shift blame off me when I was a kid if I did something wrong by ratting out someone else for misbehaving. But that was when I 8 years old. Why are adults doing this?
If you are a person who took offense to what I said, I sincerely apologize to you.
I'm a man who tries to be a positive role model in my community and tries to use my platform to inspire others.
I take ownership to everything that comes with that and what I did was extremely unacceptable.
I'm a father to two beautiful daughters and at their age I try to instill in them that they can do and be anything that they want to be.
The fact that during this whole process I've already lost sponsors and fans, I realize that the joke really is on me.
I've learned a valuable lesson from this. To the young people who see this, I hope that you learn something from this as well.
Don't be like me. Be better than me.
To the reporters, to the journalists, to the moms, supermoms, to the daughters, sisters and the women all around the world, I sincerely apologize and hope that you can find the kindness in your heart to forgive me.'
The one thing I can't stand when famous people make public apologies is when they say the words "I made a mistake". Cam didn't do that, which is why I thought it was a sincere apology. If he says something offensive like that again we can all kill him for it, but I think it's time to move on.