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B in ALB : 10/4/2017 7:11 pm
Is "funny". Superman doing the sexist thing now. Hero. Awesome.
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RE: If you could go back in time and eliminate all social media from ever  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13631764 Britt in VA said:
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happening, would you? I would.


Why? So one's racist past can't catch up to them? So that Cam can be slammed for his sexist remarks... but she can't because no one would know about her racist tweets?
Where is everyone?  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:19 pm : link
Back when it was all about slamming Cam dozens of posters were participating in this thread? Now that the reporters' past tweets have come out... *crickets*.
RE: RE: If you could go back in time and eliminate all social media from ever  
Britt in VA : 10/5/2017 2:20 pm : link
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happening, would you? I would.



Why? So one's racist past can't catch up to them? So that Cam can be slammed for his sexist remarks... but she can't because no one would know about her racist tweets?


My post was in general.

But since you asked, it's actually the opposite, a. so people didn't have the ability to say all that stupid sh-t to the masses, and b. so the social media PC mobs couldn't rabble rouse major companies to take away endorsements or get people fired over fairly minor sh-t.
Ok... back to work I guess...  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:20 pm : link
that's too funny though...
RE: RE: RE: If you could go back in time and eliminate all social media from ever  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13631784 Britt in VA said:
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happening, would you? I would.



Why? So one's racist past can't catch up to them? So that Cam can be slammed for his sexist remarks... but she can't because no one would know about her racist tweets?



My post was in general.

But since you asked, it's actually the opposite, a. so people didn't have the ability to say all that stupid sh-t to the masses, and b. so the social media PC mobs couldn't rabble rouse major companies to take away endorsements or get people fired over fairly minor sh-t.


Regarding a, as has been said many times lately, I'd rather people get their stupidity out in the open for everyone to see so that I can KNOW whether your a racist POS (like her and her family) rather than not know.

Regarding b, do you feel like Dannon unfairly removed their endorsement from CAM? You didn't seem to have a problem with that (or if you did I missed it and apologize in advance) then. Not to mention, racist tweets are anything but minor shit if you ask me.
RE: Where is everyone?  
bigbluehoya : 10/5/2017 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13631780 T-Bone said:
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Back when it was all about slamming Cam dozens of posters were participating in this thread? Now that the reporters' past tweets have come out... *crickets*.


I'd still gladly continue slamming Newton if it wouldn't give the impression that I'm sticking up for a racist. Doesn't change my opinion that Cam is a complete jerk-off.
RE: RE: I dunno  
santacruzom : 10/5/2017 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13631774 T-Bone said:
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my wife and her two sisters roll their eyes at their tep mother's displays of racism all the time. "Haha... we were just at a stoplight and Joanne saw an African American on a bike and locked the car doors."

It's definitely more of a laughing at, not laughing with.



Glad you can tell that from tweets.


Isn't it pretty obvious?
RE: RE: Where is everyone?  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13631789 bigbluehoya said:
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Back when it was all about slamming Cam dozens of posters were participating in this thread? Now that the reporters' past tweets have come out... *crickets*.



I'd still gladly continue slamming Newton if it wouldn't give the impression that I'm sticking up for a racist. Doesn't change my opinion that Cam is a complete jerk-off.


Ahh... then why not slam the racist AND Cam?
RE: RE: RE: I dunno  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13631790 santacruzom said:
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my wife and her two sisters roll their eyes at their tep mother's displays of racism all the time. "Haha... we were just at a stoplight and Joanne saw an African American on a bike and locked the car doors."

It's definitely more of a laughing at, not laughing with.



Glad you can tell that from tweets.




Isn't it pretty obvious?


Evidently not... particularly since she felt the need to apologize for them.
let's say we lose game 5  
santacruzom : 10/5/2017 2:27 pm : link
And McAdoo goes it for on 4th down again instead of a FG. If someone says,

"He's the best. Going for it on 4th down all the time."

Do you think they're sarcastic, or literal?
RE: RE: RE: RE: If you could go back in time and eliminate all social media from ever  
Britt in VA : 10/5/2017 2:29 pm : link
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happening, would you? I would.



Why? So one's racist past can't catch up to them? So that Cam can be slammed for his sexist remarks... but she can't because no one would know about her racist tweets?



My post was in general.

But since you asked, it's actually the opposite, a. so people didn't have the ability to say all that stupid sh-t to the masses, and b. so the social media PC mobs couldn't rabble rouse major companies to take away endorsements or get people fired over fairly minor sh-t.



Regarding a, as has been said many times lately, I'd rather people get their stupidity out in the open for everyone to see so that I can KNOW whether your a racist POS (like her and her family) rather than not know.

Regarding b, do you feel like Dannon unfairly removed their endorsement from CAM? You didn't seem to have a problem with that (or if you did I missed it and apologize in advance) then. Not to mention, racist tweets are anything but minor shit if you ask me.


I hadn't stated an opinion on Cam or anything else in this thread. That post was my lone post on the subject.

b. was in reference exclusively to Cam, and losing his sponsorship over what I perceive to be minor sh-t ie: his comment.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I dunno  
santacruzom : 10/5/2017 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13631792 T-Bone said:
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Evidently not... particularly since she felt the need to apologize for them.


Some adults apologize for things they say that might upset other people even when that wasn't their intent.
Sure  
bigbluehoya : 10/5/2017 2:30 pm : link
I already noted that it's not a good look and that it makes me sad that people suck, but if you'd like a more explicit sound bite, sounds like her dad is a complete asshole and she should be ashamed of herself for condoning/applauding that stuff.
RE: let's say we lose game 5  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:31 pm : link
In comment 13631794 santacruzom said:
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And McAdoo goes it for on 4th down again instead of a FG. If someone says,

"He's the best. Going for it on 4th down all the time."

Do you think they're sarcastic, or literal?


Yeah.. that's the same thing...
thank you  
santacruzom : 10/5/2017 2:32 pm : link
for acknowledging that it's the same thing. We can move on now, right?
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T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:34 pm : link
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happening, would you? I would.



Why? So one's racist past can't catch up to them? So that Cam can be slammed for his sexist remarks... but she can't because no one would know about her racist tweets?



My post was in general.

But since you asked, it's actually the opposite, a. so people didn't have the ability to say all that stupid sh-t to the masses, and b. so the social media PC mobs couldn't rabble rouse major companies to take away endorsements or get people fired over fairly minor sh-t.



Regarding a, as has been said many times lately, I'd rather people get their stupidity out in the open for everyone to see so that I can KNOW whether your a racist POS (like her and her family) rather than not know.

Regarding b, do you feel like Dannon unfairly removed their endorsement from CAM? You didn't seem to have a problem with that (or if you did I missed it and apologize in advance) then. Not to mention, racist tweets are anything but minor shit if you ask me.



I hadn't stated an opinion on Cam or anything else in this thread. That post was my lone post on the subject.

b. was in reference exclusively to Cam, and losing his sponsorship over what I perceive to be minor sh-t ie: his comment.


And thus I wondered what what the reasoning behind your post.

I have no problem with him losing that endorsement to be honest with you. You say dumb shit, you have to deal with the consequences. What will be interesting though is what... if any... consequences she may face? I doubt any personally.
um, no  
idiotsavant : 10/5/2017 2:34 pm : link
''RE: let's say we lose game 5
T-Bone : 2:31 pm : link : reply

In comment 13631794 santacruzom said:

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And McAdoo goes it for on 4th down again instead of a FG. If someone says,

"He's the best. Going for it on 4th down all the time."

Do you think they're sarcastic, or literal?


Yeah.. that's the same thing...''
RE: RE: Before anyone goes there, the reporter tweeting  
eclipz928 : 10/5/2017 2:35 pm : link
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racist things does not excuse Cam from his comments, or his obligation to issue an apology.



Sure... you're right.

But she sure should lose a lot of sympathy. After all, she seemed pretty proud of her racist father who was being 'super racist' as they passed through some Navajo territory.

Agreed. And if Cam Newton were smart (which as of now is a bit in doubt), he'd use the opportunity to take the higher road and make an apology without any equivocations. It would go a long way in fixing this mess for himself, and maybe even create some productive dialogue about both sexism and racism.
My reasoning was mainly....  
Britt in VA : 10/5/2017 2:35 pm : link
The out of control PC culture of the country, as well as the power of social media mobs.
I mean  
santacruzom : 10/5/2017 2:35 pm : link
You're really more inclined to read that thing as actual admiration for her dad being racist the whole ride home, instead of being an "oh, out-of-touch dads" observation? I'd stay away from all Facebook posts, tweets, Yelp reviews, etc. from 20 and 30 somethings if that's the case.
RE: Sure  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13631802 bigbluehoya said:
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I already noted that it's not a good look and that it makes me sad that people suck, but if you'd like a more explicit sound bite, sounds like her dad is a complete asshole and she should be ashamed of herself for condoning/applauding that stuff.


Actually I'm looking for some of that name-calliing that Cam was subjected to on this thread. I want to hear some 'That BITCH!', 'That cumbucket POS!'... ya know.. the good stuff!
RE: thank you  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13631806 santacruzom said:
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for acknowledging that it's the same thing. We can move on now, right?


Sure we can... I mean, that's what everyone NOW wants to do anyway...
RE: RE: RE: Before anyone goes there, the reporter tweeting  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13631811 eclipz928 said:
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racist things does not excuse Cam from his comments, or his obligation to issue an apology.



Sure... you're right.

But she sure should lose a lot of sympathy. After all, she seemed pretty proud of her racist father who was being 'super racist' as they passed through some Navajo territory.


Agreed. And if Cam Newton were smart (which as of now is a bit in doubt), he'd use the opportunity to take the higher road and make an apology without any equivocations. It would go a long way in fixing this mess for himself, and maybe even create some productive dialogue about both sexism and racism.


Yeah.. I don't see that happening. And truth be told, I don't want him to if he doesn't truly feel that way.
this is just kind of how wry sarcasm works these days  
santacruzom : 10/5/2017 2:40 pm : link
Put it this way: have you honestly seen very many posts from people that express an earnest admiration for someone being racist? "I hung out with Joe and he's the best... I love his racist jokes!" "Good times driving with my friend, one of the funnies racists I know."

I can't even believe I'm trying to explain this shit.
RE: My reasoning was mainly....  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13631812 Britt in VA said:
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The out of control PC culture of the country, as well as the power of social media mobs.


Eh... it's my opinion that people always talk about the country being too PC or not when it suits their purpose. Some of the very same people who are slamming Newton for what he said are the very same people who yell 'The Pussification of America continues!!!' for instance....
RE: RE: Sure  
bigbluehoya : 10/5/2017 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13631816 T-Bone said:
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I already noted that it's not a good look and that it makes me sad that people suck, but if you'd like a more explicit sound bite, sounds like her dad is a complete asshole and she should be ashamed of herself for condoning/applauding that stuff.



Actually I'm looking for some of that name-calliing that Cam was subjected to on this thread. I want to hear some 'That BITCH!', 'That cumbucket POS!'... ya know.. the good stuff!


Well I hope someone indulges you in that.
Sounds like we have two turds  
B in ALB : 10/5/2017 2:42 pm : link
Instead of just one.
RE: this is just kind of how wry sarcasm works these days  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13631821 santacruzom said:
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Put it this way: have you honestly seen very many posts from people that express an earnest admiration for someone being racist? "I hung out with Joe and he's the best... I love his racist jokes!" "Good times driving with my friend, one of the funnies racists I know."

I can't even believe I'm trying to explain this shit.


Truth be told... I can't believe it either. Again, guess it's a matter of perspective.

But to answer your question... yes, I have... and usually it's because that person is racist too.
RE: RE: My reasoning was mainly....  
Britt in VA : 10/5/2017 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13631822 T-Bone said:
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The out of control PC culture of the country, as well as the power of social media mobs.



Eh... it's my opinion that people always talk about the country being too PC or not when it suits their purpose. Some of the very same people who are slamming Newton for what he said are the very same people who yell 'The Pussification of America continues!!!' for instance....


Yeah, well... That's not me.
I'll disengage from this conversation, now...  
Britt in VA : 10/5/2017 2:44 pm : link
Didn't mean to take it off track, just just thinking/typing out loud.
do racist people even use the word racist  
santacruzom : 10/5/2017 2:46 pm : link
to talk about themselves and other people? Usually they gussy it up with terms like "Un-PC."

Whatever... I'll just maintain that knowing how people tweet about everything they see these days and often do so with sarcasm, I think it's pretty fuckin safe to assume that it's in the spirit of the eye-rolling tweet, and not literally "Having fun with my dad! Racist jokes all the way home!"
She's exposed as a racist now?  
Route 9 : 10/5/2017 2:46 pm : link
How many victim points does she lose here? It's hard to keep score.
Yeah I'm out too...  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:49 pm : link
work and all... it's just funny to me how a certain person can pass off something ignorant he said about women as 'locker room talk' and a sizable segment of society is ok with it... but let Cam Newton express surprise that a woman is knowledgeable about football routes... and he's an asshole that should lose endorsements!

The double standard is amusing.
RE: do racist people even use the word racist  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13631836 santacruzom said:
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to talk about themselves and other people? Usually they gussy it up with terms like "Un-PC."

Whatever... I'll just maintain that knowing how people tweet about everything they see these days and often do so with sarcasm, I think it's pretty fuckin safe to assume that it's in the spirit of the eye-rolling tweet, and not literally "Having fun with my dad! Racist jokes all the way home!"


Feel free to hold onto that opinion santa....
RE: She's exposed as a racist now?  
T-Bone : 10/5/2017 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13631837 Route 9 said:
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How many victim points does she lose here? It's hard to keep score.


As you can already see... not many.

And with that... I'm out.
The parallels..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/5/2017 2:54 pm : link
to locker room talk seem misguided since probably more than half of the country disapproved of that behavior.

I'm fairly certain the number of people in the USA offended by the "bus talk" vastly outnumber those upset at Cam's.

By probably at least a magnitude of 20.
It'll be very interesting to see  
B in ALB : 10/5/2017 2:54 pm : link
The degree to which the media picks up on this latest development. Or do they just try to sweep it under the rug? Hmmmm.
job  
riceneggs : 10/5/2017 2:56 pm : link
she should lose her job as an nfl reporter. especially with all thats going on in the league right now with equality, etc
I don't know if Cam is an asshole, or if he should lose endorsements  
Go Terps : 10/5/2017 2:59 pm : link
But we do know this:



I don't care if you throw for 500,000 yards and 5,000 TDs in your career. There is no getting over that.
That video..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/5/2017 3:01 pm : link
never gets too old.
That's unbelievable....  
Britt in VA : 10/5/2017 3:04 pm : link
and speaking of not going for fumbles, and since Boomer Esiason was ripping Eli the other day...

I'll never forget when they were doing the halftime, or postgame, show when Drew Brees tore up his shoulder going for a fumble.... But after showing the highlight and Boomer clearly said, "Yeah, I might have gone for that one"... there was a long post and all of them were looking at him, and maybe it was Marino said "did you just say you MIGHT have gone for it?!" Cut to commercial.
Pardon my typos in that last post, I was distracted.  
Britt in VA : 10/5/2017 3:05 pm : link
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That was one of the most shocking things I've ever seen in sports  
Go Terps : 10/5/2017 3:09 pm : link
I remember turning to my wife and saying, "That guy just fucking quit in the Super Bowl!"

They were down 6 points with 4 minutes left. Unimaginable.
Cam has all world talent,  
TMS : 10/5/2017 3:11 pm : link
but is an insensitive ignorant ass/ole. Thats what our college sports system produces quite a lot. MO.
Now, if like a woman, called him a woman  
Route 9 : 10/5/2017 3:14 pm : link
for not going for that ball, is that sexist?

Just a curious question. What was the score when he didn't go for that ball? For some reason I think that was in the final 20 seconds of the game and Cam just thought "fuck it"
Or how much time was left  
Route 9 : 10/5/2017 3:15 pm : link
in the game?
I think it was..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/5/2017 3:15 pm : link
in the 3rd quarter when the game was still in balance
I said above  
Go Terps : 10/5/2017 3:17 pm : link
They were down 6 points with 4 minutes left.

Compare that effort to Eli Manning's on the Tyree play, where the circumstances were more dire.
I do think  
santacruzom : 10/5/2017 3:18 pm : link
being fired from Dannon is pretty harsh and probably unnecessary. They probably assume a lot of their customers actually watched the video, where he comes across far, far worse than just the words present. I doubt many did see it.
GT..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/5/2017 3:18 pm : link
thanks for pointing that out. I knew the game was still close - thought it was earlier.
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