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Less than two months after signing Marshall, the Giants used their first-round pick for receiving tight end Evan Engram, who runs routes that might typically go to Marshall. If Marshall were available, the price would probably be as low as a seventh-rounder, according to multiple execs who didn't seem excited by the prospect. |
There's no trade return to be had - he stinks.
This is like Charles Schwab sending you an advisory telling you to consider selling your Enron stock. Too late.
He's not going anywhere.
That said, I'd be happy if he were traded for anything right now because (a) it would be a return, and a chance at a future prospect, even if a long-shot, and (b) maybe Rudolph would get a chance.
But, not gonna happen.
Besides, knowing how unlucky or bad we are with late round picks.. it won't matter if we trade him.. If nothing else he is insurance in case engram or Shepard gets injured..
Then Reese double down on that move by signing him to a 3 year 19 million dollar deal in the 2014 offseason.
You could make the argument that a trade for a competent RB might be possible and a fair return, but it's unlikely that the quality of RB the Giants would seek would likely be unavailable for a return of just Marshall, and even if such a trade were to happen, would not significantly improve the offense or the running game.
You could make the argument that a trade for a competent RB might be possible and a fair return, but it's unlikely that the quality of RB the Giants would seek would likely be unavailable for a return of just Marshall, and even if such a trade were to happen, would not significantly improve the offense or the running game.
Marshall won't be on the team next year. He is essentially on a one year deal.
I think a lot of people mistakenly thought it was foolproof. Given his age, there was no chance of that.
Basically, you clean house and Marshall is someone who could go. And don't think OBJ can't be traded if there is house cleaning. All it takes is for one team to overpay.
5 - 11 likely means the front office and coaches will be replaced by a new GM and staff. Anything can happen.
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it was a gamble. It looks like we crapped out
I think a lot of people mistakenly thought it was foolproof. Given his age, there was no chance of that.
I mean, I felt like it was a small gamble. I (probably along with everyone else) felt that Marshall would really help Manning because of his big body.
Now he drops balls at an impressive rate.
He doesn't care, he just wants to get his, as does most of this "team".
You could make the argument that a trade for a competent RB might be possible and a fair return, but it's unlikely that the quality of RB the Giants would seek would likely be unavailable for a return of just Marshall, and even if such a trade were to happen, would not significantly improve the offense or the running game.
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giantsfan227B : 3/8/2017 9:42 am : link
For one, Marshall SUCKS!! There is a reason he bounces from team to team. 2 he is injury prone. And finally he is a jackass. I can't wait for the Giants to lose a close game and either he or OBJ complains they aren't getting the ball enough.
The Giants didn't have a problem passing the ball. They had a problem pass blocking. How about spending money on the OL? I guess we will get our guy in the draft until we pass him up for another DL.
Bolded part notable.
We gambled on a veteran being rejuvenated and flourishing, so to speak, like say Everson Walls or other players we've picked up in the past.
Marshall looks to be just extremely average at this point, and hardly an upgrade over Cruz.
At least Cruz gave you enthusiasm.
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WTF are they thinking?
giantsfan227B : 3/8/2017 9:42 am : link
For one, Marshall SUCKS!! There is a reason he bounces from team to team. 2 he is injury prone. And finally he is a jackass. I can't wait for the Giants to lose a close game and either he or OBJ complains they aren't getting the ball enough.
The Giants didn't have a problem passing the ball. They had a problem pass blocking. How about spending money on the OL? I guess we will get our guy in the draft until we pass him up for another DL.
Bolded part notable.
The 'should've signed a lineman instead' argument doesn't work for Marshall - it's not as if the available cap space prevented them from signing a lineman, it was the strategy that with Pugh and Richburg healthy and with some improvement from Flowers they'd be OK on the OL. That obviously backfired in a pretty big way.
You could make the argument that a trade for a competent RB might be possible and a fair return, but it's unlikely that the quality of RB the Giants would seek would likely be unavailable for a return of just Marshall, and even if such a trade were to happen, would not significantly improve the offense or the running game.
It's to get him off the roster I would guess more then anything else.
Marshall Came here to win. We are 0-4 I doubt he is hapoy, and would welcome a trade before he starts spreading more throughout the team.
It seems as tho 90% of us we're all wrong and Marshall was a horrible signing.
Whitworth was the guy, we missed out.
He doesn't care, he just wants to get his, as does most of this "team".
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WTF are they thinking?
giantsfan227B : 3/8/2017 9:42 am : link
For one, Marshall SUCKS!! There is a reason he bounces from team to team. 2 he is injury prone. And finally he is a jackass. I can't wait for the Giants to lose a close game and either he or OBJ complains they aren't getting the ball enough.
The Giants didn't have a problem passing the ball. They had a problem pass blocking. How about spending money on the OL? I guess we will get our guy in the draft until we pass him up for another DL.
Bolded part notable.
Who was available to sign for the OL at that time?
My problem with this post is that the addition of BM was being shot down as basically stupid before the situation had a chance to show it's worth or lack thereof.
Also, the giants did have problem passing the ball in 16, Cruz was beyond toast, the idea with Marshall was that he would at least out muscle defenders for the ball with his size, something Cruz could not offer
Overwhelmingly.......he was the size receiver we lacked. And didn't have to the #1 guy.
It's just not working out. Stuff happens.....it's not an exact science.
Let's be clear, Odell has dropped balls, Eli was not on top of his games in the first two weeks, the OL is in disarray. Expect Marshall to pick up his game bit don't give up in him. I see things trending upward.
And it wasn't a vet min deal. An $11M contract isn't chump change.
As for him being a jackass - why's that, because he dropped passes? Has he made some statements that I'm not aware of?
And it wasn't a vet min deal. An $11M contract isn't chump change.
I'm aware of the difference between complimentary and complementary. I apologize for typing incorrectly on my phone.
Is Marshall a jackass, or is he just done? When he was signed I was hoping for 700 yards and 6 TDs...but they had to be the right 6 TDs. I was hoping for a red zone option on a team that is worse than putrid running the ball in that area. For reasons that in large part aren't Marshall's fault, that hasn't borne out to be the case.
Nobody will trade for the guy.
They either use him or cut him.
I'm for giving him a few more games.
Regardless...he's patently such a small reason the Giants suck, so I'm not sweating it much, nor should anyone. Prime BM couldn't help this team.
We are four games into the season, he will get more than that to bounce back.
.... Maybe they can put together a full game soon and when other teams start triple teaming Beckham and paying more attention to Engram Marshall will make his catches. I'm not sure what everyone was looking for from him ....
However, if he wants to be traded, hold out for at least 1/2 a bag; or a conditional 7th(if he catches 5 passes more than he drops this season for the new team).
kid as starting material . Most looked at him as a guard
with some seasoning work in the weight room .
Flowers has been a disaster and he didn't correct some of the
fundamental flaws in his game . Signing John Jerry to a
three year deal made zero sense .
Marshal has had little time to develop with Eli coming into
a new system and unfortunately getting injured early on .
We could see in pre-season we were gonna see more of the
same from last season . Total inability to run the ball .
There plenty of ways in FA to shore up this line and with
the draft . When you gamble away the better part of 6 years
of your star QB's career its time for a clean sweep .
Marshall is the least of our worries and I think he will
improve as the season wears on sure he has had some
drops but so hasn't everyone else .
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Plus the OL wil get demolished by Charger pass rush. Wasting Eli’s last 5 year’s should be enough to get any GM fired but the Giants don’t things like this. They fire a coach instead.
The Maras are milking the family business and are not going anywhere. Reese and crew are protected PC hires. The fans are the least of their worries if they keep making $$$. Maybe Tisch will intervene like he did with Coughlin, he is all about the bottom line. We need new blood in management bad.
Good to know that in addition to being a moron you're likely a racist. Protected PC hires? The guy won two fucking Super Bowls.
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Plus the OL wil get demolished by Charger pass rush. Wasting Eli’s last 5 year’s should be enough to get any GM fired but the Giants don’t things like this. They fire a coach instead.
The Maras are milking the family business and are not going anywhere. Reese and crew are protected PC hires. The fans are the least of their worries if they keep making $$$. Maybe Tisch will intervene like he did with Coughlin, he is all about the bottom line. We need new blood in management bad.
Good to know that in addition to being a moron you're likely a racist. Protected PC hires? The guy won two fucking Super Bowls.
yeah his comment was just stupid. In fact, they could have easily fired Jerry and Ross when they fired Coughlin. A clean sweep and nobody would have accused the Giants of anything.
Coaches tend to have a shorter lifespan. Coughlin's age was a factor. Reese's race wasn't.
Reese could easily get it after this season. If the Giants feel that they can make an upgrade, they're going to fire Reese and not face a single question about whether race played a factor, so implying that he's protected because of it is straight up idiotic.
Criticizing him as a selfish, lazy WR is laughable. What the hell did you all think we were getting...Steve Largent??
Feed the diva the ball, and you will start liking him more.
Or go ask Cruz to come back chuckleheads...