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arcarsenal : 10/5/2017 11:53 am
Didn't see a thread for today...

So, Crowell has been garbage. I am collecting RB's like no one's business in one of my leagues trying to find a guy I can start every week - I own 7 right now

CJ Anderson (bye)
Joe Mixon
Isiah Crowell
Buck Allen
Chris Thompson (bye)
Wayne Gallman
Jerick McKinnon

As of now, I feel like I have to start Mixon/Crowell this week. It's ugly, but I'm not sure any of these guys are better options although I'm thinking McKinnon may wind up having a good amount of value as I've never been a believer in Lat Murray.

Stick with Crow/Mixon this week, or are any of these other options more appealing? (I don't think they are, but..)

Second...

Pick one flex:

Shepard vs. LAC
Smallwood vs. ARI
Doug Martin vs. NE
Will Fuller vs. KC
Lat Murray @ CHI
Devin Funchess @ DET
I would stick with Crowell as his coach reaffirmed that he  
Heisenberg : 10/5/2017 12:04 pm : link
needs to get the ball more. He probably will.

I like Fuller for the Flex best of those.
I'd start  
uncledave : 10/5/2017 12:05 pm : link
Doug Martin and Wayne Gallman then flex Buck Allen... high risk high reward
I'll say  
bigbluehoya : 10/5/2017 12:05 pm : link
Doug Martin
Heres how I would rank em...  
Keith : 10/5/2017 12:08 pm : link
Doug Martin vs. NE
Will Fuller vs. KC
Shepard vs. LAC
Lat Murray @ CHI
Smallwood vs. ARI
Devin Funchess @ DET
.  
arcarsenal : 10/5/2017 12:09 pm : link
I'm a little hesitant to start Martin before seeing what his role is going to be - I am assuming he's going to re-take lead-back duties but Rodgers will probably still play a role and they may want to ease Martin back in a bit.
Mixon is a good own right now...  
Keith : 10/5/2017 12:09 pm : link
The new OC clearly likes him as he is getting a large majority of the snaps. I know his production has been great, but you can't have production without opportunities and he's getting em.
RE: .  
Keith : 10/5/2017 12:10 pm : link
In comment 13631569 arcarsenal said:
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I'm a little hesitant to start Martin before seeing what his role is going to be - I am assuming he's going to re-take lead-back duties but Rodgers will probably still play a role and they may want to ease Martin back in a bit.


Understood, and certainly a fair point, but its not like your other options are so good.
RE: Mixon is a good own right now...  
arcarsenal : 10/5/2017 12:12 pm : link
In comment 13631570 Keith said:
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The new OC clearly likes him as he is getting a large majority of the snaps. I know his production has been great, but you can't have production without opportunities and he's getting em.


I definitely think it's a matter of time for him - I thought he'd have produced a bit more than he has so far, but the new OC is clearly focused on getting the ball in his hands a bit more.
Is Smallwood  
pjcas18 : 10/5/2017 12:15 pm : link
even playing? Last I read he missed Wednesday practice with a knee.

Is it a PPR league?

If so I like Buck Allen over one of Mixon or Crowell - flip a coin - both have done very little in fantasy so far. Both can however break out, but I see Allen getting the ball more than both.

and if ppr I like Shepard as your flex. Beckham gets all the attention and Shepard quietly is having the best slot receiver season in the league or close to it.
Here's a depressing question  
Heisenberg : 10/5/2017 12:15 pm : link
Gallman, Lacy or C.Johnson for my second RB spot - standard scoring.

RE: Is Smallwood  
arcarsenal : 10/5/2017 12:19 pm : link
In comment 13631578 pjcas18 said:
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even playing? Last I read he missed Wednesday practice with a knee.

Is it a PPR league?

If so I like Buck Allen over one of Mixon or Crowell - flip a coin - both have done very little in fantasy so far. Both can however break out, but I see Allen getting the ball more than both.

and if ppr I like Shepard as your flex. Beckham gets all the attention and Shepard quietly is having the best slot receiver season in the league or close to it.


Yep - PPR.

I just saw Smallwood's status, I don't think I was going to use him regardless, I have better options.

Buck Allen just doesn't get any carries really. For him to have value, the game flow kind of has to favor the Ravens throwing a ton. But he may have a slightly higher floor.

Mixon/Crowell have to find the endzone eventually. I'm hoping this is the week, but who knows.
RE: Here's a depressing question  
Keith : 10/5/2017 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13631580 Heisenberg said:
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Gallman, Lacy or C.Johnson for my second RB spot - standard scoring.


Oy. I know everyone is high on Gallman, but I wouldn't touch him personally. He's not going to be a bellcow and even if he was, he's limited in this offense. I can see 8 carries for 30 yards for him.

Lacy I guess has potential to get touches, but I think Rawls will get the majority of the touches until he gets hurt.

CJ isn't good, but at least he gets the majority of the snaps. I'd probably start CJ by default.
RE: Here's a depressing question  
arcarsenal : 10/5/2017 12:21 pm : link
In comment 13631580 Heisenberg said:
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Gallman, Lacy or C.Johnson for my second RB spot - standard scoring.


Jeez, I think I might sadly choose Lacy and hope he finds the endzone. McAdoo is still using the "we'll go with the hot hand" thing so who knows what that means for Gallman and the Cards have been absolutely putrid running the ball.
RE: Here's a depressing question  
pjcas18 : 10/5/2017 12:25 pm : link
In comment 13631580 Heisenberg said:
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Gallman, Lacy or C.Johnson for my second RB spot - standard scoring.


not sure how any Giants fan can watch Giants games and start Gallman in fantasy football until you see some running room.

Eli has more TD's through 1/4 of the season rushing than all Giants RB's combined.

I'd flip a coin between Lacy and CJ. Probably CJ since he should get the most work.
OP  
allstarjim : 10/5/2017 12:25 pm : link
I agree you go with Cro and Mixon.

But on your flex, I think Smallwood (if he plays) has the highest floor. Other guys have a higher ceiling, of course, but I would probably go Smallwood, if he plays. Funchess would be my second choice.
Yeah, it's an array of shitty choices. This is what happens when you  
Heisenberg : 10/5/2017 12:27 pm : link
lose David Johnson and then Chris Carson.

Right now I have it as Chris Johnson because at least his role is defined. If I hear something else about Lacy or Gallman, I might switch it.
Thanks for starting this arc  
tbonfig : 10/5/2017 12:33 pm : link
Here's my situation:

I have some Bucs/Pats players on my team and usually hate Thurs night games, but considering the weak defenses in play here, I'm struggling with who to start:

RB: J. Howard, J. White, D. Martin, T. Cohen
WR: Cooks, OBJ, DeSean, JJ Nelson

2 RB/2 WR/1 Flex

I'm thinking:

Howard
Martin

Cooks
OBJ

DeSean

Seem right?
RE: OP  
arcarsenal : 10/5/2017 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13631603 allstarjim said:
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I agree you go with Cro and Mixon.

But on your flex, I think Smallwood (if he plays) has the highest floor. Other guys have a higher ceiling, of course, but I would probably go Smallwood, if he plays. Funchess would be my second choice.


Interesting - I think those were the two guys I was considering least. Haha. But, I think you can make a reasonable case for any of the guys I listed. I'll have to see what the deal with Smallwood's knee is.
RE: Thanks for starting this arc  
arcarsenal : 10/5/2017 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13631609 tbonfig said:
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Here's my situation:

I have some Bucs/Pats players on my team and usually hate Thurs night games, but considering the weak defenses in play here, I'm struggling with who to start:

RB: J. Howard, J. White, D. Martin, T. Cohen
WR: Cooks, OBJ, DeSean, JJ Nelson

2 RB/2 WR/1 Flex

I'm thinking:

Howard
Martin

Cooks
OBJ

DeSean

Seem right?


The WR's, definitely - no brainer. Jaron Brown might be the non-Fitz guy to own in that WR corps at this point.

The RB's ... I'm not sure. I might consider White or even Cohen over Martin. Trubisky is starting so you figure the Bears will lean pretty heavily on their RB's. I'd also expect White to get a handful of looks.

Martin I just feel like I need to see in action before I deploy him. Short week, first game back - it wouldn't surprise me if he was worked in gradually didn't see his full complement of touches.
RE: RE: Thanks for starting this arc  
tbonfig : 10/5/2017 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13631622 arcarsenal said:
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The WR's, definitely - no brainer. Jaron Brown might be the non-Fitz guy to own in that WR corps at this point.

The RB's ... I'm not sure. I might consider White or even Cohen over Martin. Trubisky is starting so you figure the Bears will lean pretty heavily on their RB's. I'd also expect White to get a handful of looks.

Martin I just feel like I need to see in action before I deploy him. Short week, first game back - it wouldn't surprise me if he was worked in gradually didn't see his full complement of touches.


This is what I was thinking too but reading other fantasy boards guys are jumping at the opportunity to start Martin, in fairness, most of those posters seem to not have many other options....I originally had White in the lineup with Howard, but going back and forth on it.
publicly  
pjcas18 : 10/5/2017 12:47 pm : link
Koetter was pissed about Martin's suspension and said he's not guaranteed anything when he returns from the suspension.

realistically he's by a landslide their best option at RB, but Koetter seems like the kind of coach to send a message.

I'd wait and see how he's used before putting him in my lineup. And I also own him in one of my leagues.

I'm currently starting Smallwood over him, but if Smallwood is out it's between Martin and Frank Gore. And I unfortunately would need to make the Martin decision tonight.
Chris Thompson  
Glover : 10/5/2017 1:00 pm : link
has been killing it in ppr, dont know how much less he is in standard.
but yea,  
Glover : 10/5/2017 1:01 pm : link
he's on bye.
I'd go Mixon/Crowell for the first part  
YAJ2112 : 10/5/2017 1:05 pm : link
they are getting the most touches of that group.

Roll a 6 sided die for the second one. Won't matter which one you pick, I'm sure you will choose wrong and you'll get curbstomped by 50 regardless of which one you pick anyway.
tbonfig  
YAJ2112 : 10/5/2017 1:07 pm : link
assuming PPR, I'd go White over Martin
DFS - Fanduel/Draftkings  
BubbaMojo : 10/5/2017 1:09 pm : link

Wanted to get a discussion started on lineups for this week. I play in a league on Fanduel. No Thursday game. Have a side bet with my brother in law on a weekly basis, and haven't been doing too well, so I need some help!

Changed my roster for this week a couple of times, but as of now have the following roster (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, K, DEF):

Prescott
Miller (HOU)
Gurley
Nelson (GB)
Diggs
Dez
Engram
Gould
NYJ

Highest O/U this week (not counting Thursday) appears to be the DAL/GB game, so wanted to focus on getting players on both sides of that game. Too much?

Some sleepers/other options I've considered for this week are Will Fuller, TY Hilton, Deshaun Watson, Alex Smith.

Any advice is much appreciated (I think a poster started a discussion like this for week 1, but unless I missed it, haven't seen it since.)

Thanks
RE: DFS - Fanduel/Draftkings  
YAJ2112 : 10/5/2017 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13631656 BubbaMojo said:
Quote:

Wanted to get a discussion started on lineups for this week. I play in a league on Fanduel. No Thursday game. Have a side bet with my brother in law on a weekly basis, and haven't been doing too well, so I need some help!

Changed my roster for this week a couple of times, but as of now have the following roster (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, K, DEF):

Prescott
Miller (HOU)
Gurley
Nelson (GB)
Diggs
Dez
Engram
Gould
NYJ

Highest O/U this week (not counting Thursday) appears to be the DAL/GB game, so wanted to focus on getting players on both sides of that game. Too much?

Some sleepers/other options I've considered for this week are Will Fuller, TY Hilton, Deshaun Watson, Alex Smith.

Any advice is much appreciated (I think a poster started a discussion like this for week 1, but unless I missed it, haven't seen it since.)

Thanks


What is it you like about Miller? He had a good week last week, but his snap % dropped again (I believe it was 44% this past week). Don't see the value/upside at his price point given the matchup vs KC and his playing time. Think I'd rather go Powell over Miller at that price.
Oh, and of those other 4  
YAJ2112 : 10/5/2017 1:45 pm : link
the only one I like this week is TY. Not seeing a ton of points in that KC-Houston matchup and would look to go elsewhere (outside of Hunt or Kelce).
Trade  
TyreeHelmet : 10/5/2017 1:47 pm : link
This trade was vetoed in my league. I wasn't one of the teams involved but curious what people think.

Team 1 receives Jimmy Graham and Donta Foreman

Team 2 receives Buck Allen, Jacquizz Rodgers and Paul Richardson.
RE: Trade  
Heisenberg : 10/5/2017 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13631724 TyreeHelmet said:
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This trade was vetoed in my league. I wasn't one of the teams involved but curious what people think.

Team 1 receives Jimmy Graham and Donta Foreman

Team 2 receives Buck Allen, Jacquizz Rodgers and Paul Richardson.


I think trade vetoes are the fucking worst.
RE: Trade  
pjcas18 : 10/5/2017 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13631724 TyreeHelmet said:
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This trade was vetoed in my league. I wasn't one of the teams involved but curious what people think.

Team 1 receives Jimmy Graham and Donta Foreman

Team 2 receives Buck Allen, Jacquizz Rodgers and Paul Richardson.


not a chance I veto that and it would be my last year in a league with douche bags who did veto it (no offense if you are one of the DB's)
RE: Trade  
YAJ2112 : 10/5/2017 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13631724 TyreeHelmet said:
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This trade was vetoed in my league. I wasn't one of the teams involved but curious what people think.

Team 1 receives Jimmy Graham and Donta Foreman

Team 2 receives Buck Allen, Jacquizz Rodgers and Paul Richardson.


Why in the world would that trade get vetoed? Vetoing trades is fucking stupid and shouldn't even be an option in leagues.
That league blows.  
Keith : 10/5/2017 1:52 pm : link
I would never be a part of a league that allows for league vote for that exact reason. People are idiots.
RE: Trade  
allstarjim : 10/5/2017 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13631724 TyreeHelmet said:
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This trade was vetoed in my league. I wasn't one of the teams involved but curious what people think.

Team 1 receives Jimmy Graham and Donta Foreman

Team 2 receives Buck Allen, Jacquizz Rodgers and Paul Richardson.


That's some trifling, meddling owners, and I also would not be in a league that vetoes are up to a league vote.

Trades in good faith should always be accepted. People veto trades because they think "that helps team A too much," or "that team would be too good," or other nonsense. The whole point of trading is to help your team.

The only reason to veto is if collusion is at play. In all my leagues, trades are not subject to a vote. Some people don't like the trades that happen, but a trade between two parties acting for the betterment of their own team (even if one party is, by all accounts, a clear winner), is really none of their business. I would say to them to make their own deal.
I'm seeing a lot of people are down on Latavius.  
Miami_JintsFan : 10/5/2017 2:16 pm : link
As a former Cook owner I scooped him of waivers and I'm plugging him in this week. Only other option is Lynch.

Is he not going to get fed Monday night in Chicago?
I just made my second trade  
allstarjim : 10/5/2017 2:18 pm : link
in the second league in two days.

My 5 keeper league. I have too many QBs...Wilson, Wentz, Luck, and Watson, so I dealt Wentz to a guy for Terrelle Pryor, I also gave him a 7th rounder (2nd round pick after keepers), for a 12th back. Not happy I'll have to drop so many rounds, but I think to get Pryor and unload a QB that was just taking up space, it's worth it. Pryor I think is going to rebound from a bad start.

In that league, I now have the following WR's - OBJ, Diggs, Pryor, Sammy Watkins, and DeVante Parker.

I love that depth, and will be looking to make another trade packaging Luck, one of those receivers, and a RB like Derrick Henry for Zeke Elliott, if I can swing it.
RE: I'm seeing a lot of people are down on Latavius.  
allstarjim : 10/5/2017 2:35 pm : link
In comment 13631775 Miami_JintsFan said:
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As a former Cook owner I scooped him of waivers and I'm plugging him in this week. Only other option is Lynch.

Is he not going to get fed Monday night in Chicago?


I think the reports being that his ankle is not 100% is scaring some people. I think he's going to be a guy you should play if you were affected by injuries at the RB position.

I think if Bradford plays on Sunday, that will help his value immensely.
Latavius Murray  
Mr. Nickels : 10/5/2017 4:15 pm : link
James White or Ameer Abdullah?

I added Murray because he played Cleveland on Gurley's bye week.
Would you sit Beckham this week  
Tony in Berlin : 10/5/2017 5:23 pm : link
because of his injuries? I have Chris Hogan at Tampa or Garcon vs. Colts as my other options. Those matchups steht mich better. On the other hand: never sit your studs. What do you think. Right now I say Beckham. PPR btw
correction  
Tony in Berlin : 10/5/2017 5:24 pm : link
*those matchups are much better*
SOS  
kash94 : 10/5/2017 6:03 pm : link
so Gronk is apparently out for tonight. I have Engram as my TE. Do I start him or pick up Dwayne Allen and hope he clicks with Brady?
RE: SOS  
allstarjim : 10/5/2017 11:08 pm : link
In comment 13632074 kash94 said:
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so Gronk is apparently out for tonight. I have Engram as my TE. Do I start him or pick up Dwayne Allen and hope he clicks with Brady?


I hope you played Engram, which would've been my advice had a seen this. You just don't know with Brady and how the players will be used, but Allen has done diddly squat thus far and the Patriots have given no inclination to get him involved in the offense. On the flip side, Engram has been a steady performer and will continue to be a solid performer with TD sexy upside.
RE: Latavius Murray  
allstarjim : 10/5/2017 11:09 pm : link
In comment 13631961 Mr. Nickels said:
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James White or Ameer Abdullah?

I added Murray because he played Cleveland on Gurley's bye week.


I like how Abdullah is running the ball right now. I know this is late because we are in the 4th quarter of the Patriots-Bucs game.
RE: Latavius Murray  
allstarjim : 10/5/2017 11:10 pm : link
In comment 13631961 Mr. Nickels said:
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James White or Ameer Abdullah?

I added Murray because he played Cleveland on Gurley's bye week.


I think Abdullah, I need to see Murray one time first.
RE: Would you sit Beckham this week  
allstarjim : 10/5/2017 11:11 pm : link
In comment 13632035 Tony in Berlin said:
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because of his injuries? I have Chris Hogan at Tampa or Garcon vs. Colts as my other options. Those matchups steht mich better. On the other hand: never sit your studs. What do you think. Right now I say Beckham. PPR btw


Tony, if OBJ is playing, you play OBJ. All indications are that he's playing. If OBJ is active on game day, he's a set and forget.
.  
arcarsenal : 10/6/2017 11:31 am : link
I guess Martin was, indeed, usable in his first game back.

Not a monster game and not a ton of touches, but he looked good and scored. He's going to be on the RB2 map every week from here on out - so, that's good for me.

Thankfully, mister Muddy Mudskipper got a very pedestrian start out of Brady in a matchup where I figured he'd be good for 25 easily. So, I'm not really behind the ball in not starting Martin. He'll be in my lineup next week.

I'm definitely regretting trading Martin in my other league, though. Bah.
RE: .  
YAJ2112 : 10/6/2017 11:46 am : link
In comment 13632909 arcarsenal said:
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I guess Martin was, indeed, usable in his first game back.

Not a monster game and not a ton of touches, but he looked good and scored. He's going to be on the RB2 map every week from here on out - so, that's good for me.

Thankfully, mister Muddy Mudskipper got a very pedestrian start out of Brady in a matchup where I figured he'd be good for 25 easily. So, I'm not really behind the ball in not starting Martin. He'll be in my lineup next week.

I'm definitely regretting trading Martin in my other league, though. Bah.


Yeah I was expecting about 35+ from Brady. Going to need Houston to shut down KC this week and the Giants to shut down LAC. Lot of interesting teammate pairs going on in our matchup too... Bell vs Brown, PRich vs Baldwin, Marshall vs Shepard
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