I’ll be on a flight during the Yankee game on Sunday night, and was wondering if anyone knows how I could see the game. I’m flying United to Seattle from Newark.
I’ll be on a flight during the Yankee game on Sunday night, and was wondering if anyone knows how I could see the game. I’m flying United to Seattle from Newark.
MLB.com Gameday shows full and condensed replays after the game is over. (Don't know if it's RIGHT after or next day.)
I had a subscription all year, but they might let you sign up for a free trial.
Headley in, Ellsbury out. Little shakeup at the bottom
YANKEES
LF Brett Gardner
RF Aaron Judge
C Gary Sanchez
SS Didi Gregorius
2B Starlin Castro
1B Greg Bird
3B Todd Frazier
DH Chase Headley
CF Aaron Hicks
P Sonny Gray
INDIANS
SS Francisco Lindor
CF Jason Kipnis
2B Jose Ramirez
DH Edwin Encarnacion
RF Jay Bruce
1B Carlos Santana
LF Lonnie Chisenhall
C Roberto Perez
3B Giovanny Urshela
Seems like only yesterday he was going to be the next big thing.
He got hurt in Texas one night (after 9 outstanding starts) and that was pretty much all she wrote. When he came back, he didn't throw as hard and was never the same in any capacity.
I work for a distributor of lincoln electric products and had training at lincoln all week. Wore my yankees shirt to training today and nonstop heckling from the cleveland people. Ill be about 15 rows behind Yankee dugout tonight. Cant wait
I work for a distributor of lincoln electric products and had training at lincoln all week. Wore my yankees shirt to training today and nonstop heckling from the cleveland people. Ill be about 15 rows behind Yankee dugout tonight. Cant wait
I work for a distributor of lincoln electric products and had training at lincoln all week. Wore my yankees shirt to training today and nonstop heckling from the cleveland people. Ill be about 15 rows behind Yankee dugout tonight. Cant wait
Ive worked with the Director of Training and some other cats at Lincoln. Small world.
I once delivered a Lincoln welder to a job site! Â
But in the last commercial break in the Boston-Houston game, there was an MLB playoffs promo featuring a montage of clips from past playoffs going back to the '80s. The Sawx are very prominently featured, more than any other team.
Not a single Yankees clip. Not one. The only won a quarter of the last 20 World Series, that's all.
But in the last commercial break in the Boston-Houston game, there was an MLB playoffs promo featuring a montage of clips from past playoffs going back to the '80s. The Sawx are very prominently featured, more than any other team.
Not a single Yankees clip. Not one. The only won a quarter of the last 20 World Series, that's all.
How else are they going to convince their bearded scrappy fanbase to watch them lose to the Astros?
I work for a distributor of lincoln electric products and had training at lincoln all week. Wore my yankees shirt to training today and nonstop heckling from the cleveland people. Ill be about 15 rows behind Yankee dugout tonight. Cant wait
Ive worked with the Director of Training and some other cats at Lincoln. Small world.
Ive farted on Lincoln's entree before. Not just him, but Johnny HOpkins' AND Sloan Kettering's.
I work for a distributor of lincoln electric products and had training at lincoln all week. Wore my yankees shirt to training today and nonstop heckling from the cleveland people. Ill be about 15 rows behind Yankee dugout tonight. Cant wait
Ive worked with the Director of Training and some other cats at Lincoln. Small world.
Ive farted on Lincoln's entree before. Not just him, but Johnny HOpkins' AND Sloan Kettering's.
You've farted on virtually everything that's crossed your path, chop. It's what you do.
I needed to move a shirt that was hanging on my closet door and instead of going around my bed to do it, I kneeled on my bed and reached for it. Unfortunately I was wearing my Yankees cap at the time and it fell off my head and onto the bed. Hats on a bed! - ( New Window )
c'mon Bauer isn't that bad of pitcher making out to be here Â
but you are no immune to criticism either. I just choose not to go that route with posters. I certainly would not trade betances with his stuff but I would not use him as a reliever. Give him another shot as a starter
RE: Sorry to offend you with my tired old thinking Â
but you are no immune to criticism either. I just choose not to go that route with posters. I certainly would not trade betances with his stuff but I would not use him as a reliever. Give him another shot as a starter
He had a shot for four or five years in the minors and he was terrible
but you are no immune to criticism either. I just choose not to go that route with posters. I certainly would not trade betances with his stuff but I would not use him as a reliever. Give him another shot as a starter
He had a shot for four or five years in the minors and he was terrible
He's pretty successfully incorporated a nasty 2 seamer that handcuffs lefties and obviously he's always had the power fastball. Kluber has been a really good influence in him. Speaking of Kluber, uh he might pitch a god damn perfect game if Bauer is no hitting them.
It has usually seemed to that nothing he throws ever deceives the hitter. Very few swings and outright misses. Control is an issue as well: he gets behind too often. Only a couple of games pitched by him as a Yankee have been any good, and this wasn't one of them.
It has usually seemed to that nothing he throws ever deceives the hitter. Very few swings and outright misses. Control is an issue as well: he gets behind too often. Only a couple of games pitched by him as a Yankee have been any good, and this wasn't one of them.
Two bad starts in a row but most of the games he's thrown as a Yankee have been good. Let's not generalize.
Control has never been an issue for him so it's strange to see it now. Home runs too
It has usually seemed to that nothing he throws ever deceives the hitter. Very few swings and outright misses. Control is an issue as well: he gets behind too often. Only a couple of games pitched by him as a Yankee have been any good, and this wasn't one of them.
He's a 3/4 starter. Ideally in a 5 game series you wouldn't have to start him at all, but clearly the Yankees don't have that luxury. He needs to not be afraid to throw first pitch strikes. A lot of it is confidence
It has usually seemed to that nothing he throws ever deceives the hitter. Very few swings and outright misses. Control is an issue as well: he gets behind too often. Only a couple of games pitched by him as a Yankee have been any good, and this wasn't one of them.
He's a 3/4 starter. Ideally in a 5 game series you wouldn't have to start him at all, but clearly the Yankees don't have that luxury. He needs to not be afraid to throw first pitch strikes. A lot of it is confidence
The comments on Gray have gotten so absurd. How good is your rotation that you're not starting him at all in a series? Now he's a 4th starter?
hatchet crowd out. Yes he sucked his last 2 times out. Prior to that his Era as Yank was 3.12
Bottom line the way Bauer is pitching its pretty academic. I pray we do something because I understand the Indians have played historic ball the past few months but the falating they are getting from this Fox crew from pitch 1 has been hard to take.
It has usually seemed to that nothing he throws ever deceives the hitter. Very few swings and outright misses. Control is an issue as well: he gets behind too often. Only a couple of games pitched by him as a Yankee have been any good, and this wasn't one of them.
He's a 3/4 starter. Ideally in a 5 game series you wouldn't have to start him at all, but clearly the Yankees don't have that luxury. He needs to not be afraid to throw first pitch strikes. A lot of it is confidence
The comments on Gray have gotten so absurd. How good is your rotation that you're not starting him at all in a series? Now he's a 4th starter?
He threw a bad game, that's it. Leave it at that
he is a 3/4 starter depending on the team. On Cleveland he is a 4. On NY he is arguably their 2nd or 3rd best starter on any given night, but amongst CC, Tanaka and Gray it's a total crapshoot. I don't think Sonny Gray is a bad pitcher, far from it. Factoring in Oakland he had 17 QS in 27 starts, 3.55 ERA and 1.21 WHIP. It was a nice bounce back year from 2016
Anything within 8 inches of the plate is getting called a strike for Bauer. And spare me the "not that it makes a difference" bullshit. Of course it makes a difference! Headley and now Judge got completely screwed in this inning alone. That doesn't affect the game?
can go suck off Bauer right now and get it over with. Not only did he K Headley and Judge on non-strikes in this inning, but he isn't calling strikes against Indian hitters.
One of the most lopsided games called this season. I can't believe the shit i'm seeing tonight.
How the fuck does a wingnut like Bauer get this treatment?
Oh, so on the best rotation in baseball Gray is a 4? Â
Thanks for clearing that up. And that's IF Bauer sustains his recent performance since Gray has been the much better pitcher over the course of their respective careers.
Thanks for clearing that up. And that's IF Bauer sustains his recent performance since Gray has been the much better pitcher over the course of their respective careers.
Gray, CC, Tanaka. Is there a whole lot of difference between these pitchers currently? All had solid years, although Tanaka was prone to some epic meltdowns. Point being, one of these guys is a "2" and one is a "4". It's all semantics.
Thanks for clearing that up. And that's IF Bauer sustains his recent performance since Gray has been the much better pitcher over the course of their respective careers.
Gray, CC, Tanaka. Is there a whole lot of difference between these pitchers currently? All had solid years, although Tanaka was prone to some epic meltdowns. Point being, one of these guys is a "2" and one is a "4". It's all semantics.
CC is swell. He also is pretty much guaranteed not to give you more than 6 innings, sometimes 5
by the zone but Bauer looked great tonight independently. The Indians outplayed the Yankees (thus far). There's a reason that they had the best record in the AL-- they are damn good.
by the zone but Bauer looked great tonight independently. The Indians outplayed the Yankees (thus far). There's a reason that they had the best record in the AL-- they are damn good.
True but if the ump calls it fairly Bauer will make a mistake or two that gets hit because he isn't any good (like Kluber, Carrasco)
we didn't give up the kitchen sink for him. He respectably fills out the rotation during the long season . Its just those 100 pitches he always throws before the 6 inning is over that is a killer. . Also gave up some Home runs in September.
If you're not going to give Holliday a shot against Miller Â
Headley, their pinch hitting options with Bird vs a lefty are pretty limited, unless they are comfortable with Holiday at 1B.
Put Torreyes at third and Frazier at first then.
Wouldn't you just move Headley to 1B?
If you put the DH in the field, you lose the DH spot and the pitcher has to hit.
Thanks, I didn't know that.
So once you declare your DH you can't use him in the field during the game unless you want to allow the pitcher to hit. Learn something new everyday.
by the zone but Bauer looked great tonight independently. The Indians outplayed the Yankees (thus far). There's a reason that they had the best record in the AL-- they are damn good.
True but if the ump calls it fairly Bauer will make a mistake or two that gets hit because he isn't any good (like Kluber, Carrasco)
You can think that if it makes you feel better, but it's nothing more than extremely wishful thinking.
Bauer was on fire tonight. He faced 23 batters. Even if you were you say that all 8 of his strikeouts were because of unfair umpiring, he still only gave up 2 hits and a walk in the remaining 15 at-bats-- and not all 8 of his strikeouts were bogus.
Bauer's been pretty hot since the All-Star break Â
factor in the first road playoff game for a lot of these guys, against a team that's been red hot... I thought they acquitted themselves well. Nobody thought this was going to be easy.
I think Bauer definitely benefited from 2 factors Â
The ump subconsciously giving him some borderline calls bc he was “around” the plate...and the pressure of the home crowd on the umps. I think home field does play a factor with umps calls a bit, when the crowd is amped like that in a playoff game
But no way the Yanks can use that as an excuse. They showed no ability to hit his big curveball consistently. As annoying as he looks (Bauer looks like the teenager hanging out smoking cigarettes and trying to look tough in front of the Wawa somewhere in Jersey when you stop for gas)...sometimes you have to tip your cap.
Indians had a clear plan in mind against guys like Judge, Sanchez et al - start their guy with the big curveball, and have him throw 75% curveballs. Last night it worked.
judge is going to face nothing but breaking balls this series Â
calls and all but two were likely strikes. Tip the cap.
Sonny Gray needs to throw more strikes early in the count. He cannot keep getting behind in the count and then need to come in. How many 3-2 counts did he have and how many times was he behind in the count 3-0, or 2-0? Cannot do that against a great hitting team. As a similar pitcher, he has better velocity than Jimmy Key and Mike Mussina but he does not control his pitches like they did. He has the stuff, but he wastes far too many pitches.
calls and all but two were likely strikes. Tip the cap.
Sonny Gray needs to throw more strikes early in the count. He cannot keep getting behind in the count and then need to come in. How many 3-2 counts did he have and how many times was he behind in the count 3-0, or 2-0? Cannot do that against a great hitting team. As a similar pitcher, he has better velocity than Jimmy Key and Mike Mussina but he does not control his pitches like they did. He has the stuff, but he wastes far too many pitches.
On to game two.
Just read RAB. I wasn't delusional with respect to Gray's pitching and getting behind in counts.
calls and all but two were likely strikes. Tip the cap.
That's a very generous interpretation. I wouldn't have complained about those strikes to Judge, Didi, and Headley at all if Gray/Warren/Garcia had gotten some/any of those calls too. When does Aaron Judge ever say anything to a HP ump? Joe visibly said, "You're having a bad game" to the HP ump. I'd say that was far less frustration than just an accurate observation.
One thing our pitchers must a better job of is holding runners, especially if they're going to be throwing so many pitches in the dirt. Ramirez sprinting around the bases on 2 wild pitches was in large part due to the humongous starting and secondary leads he got. Unless the balls are caught cleanly out of the dirt, there's literally no chance of throwing him out. I think that's a strategy CLE probably uses with their better base-runners.
Listen there is no team that can hit the breaking balls Bauer Â
was throwing. Most of them were breaking about 3 feet and ending up at the knees or just below. Your only hope there is to match 0's and hope to take advantage of one of the few he hung(like the fastball Frazier jumped on and pulled just foul). Yes we got a shit zone at times and I agree that when you are the home pitcher in front of an amped up playoff crowd you will get some generous strike calls. We just have to try and match their SP and hope that somehow some way they come back to earth a bit. What was lost in their winning streak was how damn dominant their SP was. The A's streak years back was pure pixie dust. Miguel Tejada had like 5 walk off hits. This Indians team didn't need that. They simply dominated from start to finish most games. I have faith in the big fella. He'll get it done tonight. Hopefully we hit a bit.
to watch the strike zone they have applied to Judge. He consistently has pitches at his armpits called strikes and they call ones below his knees as well. He pretty much has to swing to protect the plate, and even with that, his walk rate is damn impressive.
For some reason, the high strike has been called consistently on Yanks this year without having the same zone for the opponent. DiDi, Judge and Headley often get the high strike called.
Like Stu said above - the strike zone isn't why they lost, but as a fan it is damn frustrating.
Gray is not an ace, he's a mid rotation guy. I think this description Â
from SI below is perfect. I know they gave up guys who were hurt except for Mateo, but if Kaprelian turns into a stud the deal is a steal for Oakland:
"The Yankees may have thought in landing Gray at the deadline that they were getting a top-tier starter—just two years ago, he finished third in the running for the Cy Young. But while he posted a 3.72 ERA in his 11 regular-season starts as a Yankee, he walked nearly 10 percent of the batters he faced and went more than six innings just three times. These days, he’s a fine pitcher, not an excellent one. He didn’t excel Wednesday night, either, and it’s hard to think the Yankees will be excited to see him back on the hill in Cleveland for a Game 5, should things get that far."
It was the sonofabitch at third base blowing those two check-swing calls, especially the Bruce call. That one was one of the worst calls I've ever seen. I didn't notice it myself, but I believe B when he said the guy was unwrapping his gum instead of watching the play because there's no way someone who was paying attention says that Bruce didn't go around there. It didn't cost them since Garcia struck him out anyway, but good lord.
Poll time - if the Yanks manage to stay alive, Garcia gets a start over Gray, yes or no? I'm leaning towards yes.....I believe in Gray long term, but he just doesn't have it right now. I don't know if something is physically wrong with him or what, but he's had three bad starts in a row now.
And Dellin looked like Dellin again. Despite the fact that it was an almost certain loss at that point, I got almost giddy watching him carve them up. It's been unbearable watching him struggle when I know how untouchable he can be when he's on.
RE: Also, the worst of the umpiring wasn't behind the plate Â
It was the sonofabitch at third base blowing those two check-swing calls, especially the Bruce call. That one was one of the worst calls I've ever seen. I didn't notice it myself, but I believe B when he said the guy was unwrapping his gum instead of watching the play because there's no way someone who was paying attention says that Bruce didn't go around there. It didn't cost them since Garcia struck him out anyway, but good lord.
If Bruce connected that ball may have left the yard.
Doesn't really matter who you start for Game 5 though, does it? Â
Ace vs. ace, and I have more confidence in Sevy on the road after watching him overthrowing like a mother in the wild card game. Figure he'd be more controlled on the road.
But it's not happening.
Depending on what the pen would look like going into a game 5 Â
amped up, he was too strong on 6 days rest. Now he's going to start on Sunday having pitched just 1/3 of an inning, about 35 pitches, in 11 days. He going to be super strong and pumped by Sunday
and let's all say a little prayer that Kluber doesn't get... Â
...the Eric Gregg Memorial Strike Zone the way Bauer did. Beating Kluber is hard enough with a legit strike zone. If he's gonna get that many pitches off the plate too, they might as well stay at their hotel.
It's ok. Gotta learn quick though. Tomorrow is coming fast.
Judge was swinging at those pitches because everything thrown in the vicinity of the zip code was being called a strike last night. For the Cleveland pitchers...
I didn't see all 3 hits but 2 went to the opposite field. When facing a breaking ball pitcher you need to think back up the middle or the other way. If you try to pull everything you'll beat it in the ground or pop it up. Going to be the same issue with Kluber. Let the ball travel and take it the other way.
And for Sonny Gray, if he's going to be that wild with most of his pitches he'll never get the call on the close ones. They all need to challenge the hitters and if the get beat so be it. This constant nibbling on the corners and missing by a mile leading to 3-2 counts all day long will never get the job done.
I tried - can't figure out what that is supposed to tell me.
this is about calls Umps "typically" make acc to the site. I asked about the box on last nights broadcast... acc to that, the ump didn't go off course all that often.
The little boxes are Cleveland's pitches, the triangles are the Yankees. Red is a strike, green is a ball. By the maps, Cleveland got about 8 pitches off the plate called strikes. Yankees got one. There were also four Yankee pitches entirely in the strike zone called balls, none for Cleveland.
Bottom line - Cleveland pitchers got friendlier calls by a good bit. Doesn't mean the Yankees played well, because they didn't, but the umps did them no favors either.
but does the box on that site match the box that Fox shows on their screen?
I am only asking b/c I really do not recall seeing that many bad calls watching it last night - though admittedly I started doing other things after the 7th - and in fact, found it interesting how often the Ump got it right according to the box on screen
(i.e., close pitch outside the box, called a ball and the crowd groaned loudly wanting the strike)... I saw that quite often.
Gardner
Judge
Sanchez
Didi
Castro
Bird
Hicks
DH
Frazier
So I must ask, sir - What the fuck is this horseshit!?
FS-1
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MLB.com Gameday shows full and condensed replays after the game is over. (Don't know if it's RIGHT after or next day.)
I had a subscription all year, but they might let you sign up for a free trial.
So I must ask, sir - What the fuck is this horseshit!?
Its ok... I blame you for the Giants 0-4 season. If you stop posting immediately maybe we will win the rest of our games.
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started the Tuesday thread.
So I must ask, sir - What the fuck is this horseshit!?
Its ok... I blame you for the Giants 0-4 season. If you stop posting immediately maybe we will win the rest of our games.
Listen fuckface, no one starts Giants' game threads other than Eric.
You just concentrate on tonight and don't shit the bed.
YANKEES
LF Brett Gardner
RF Aaron Judge
C Gary Sanchez
SS Didi Gregorius
2B Starlin Castro
1B Greg Bird
3B Todd Frazier
DH Chase Headley
CF Aaron Hicks
P Sonny Gray
INDIANS
SS Francisco Lindor
CF Jason Kipnis
2B Jose Ramirez
DH Edwin Encarnacion
RF Jay Bruce
1B Carlos Santana
LF Lonnie Chisenhall
C Roberto Perez
3B Giovanny Urshela
P Trevor Bauer
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started the Tuesday thread.
So I must ask, sir - What the fuck is this horseshit!?
Its ok... I blame you for the Giants 0-4 season. If you stop posting immediately maybe we will win the rest of our games.
Listen fuckface, no one starts Giants' game threads other than Eric.
You just concentrate on tonight and don't shit the bed.
Wow what elegant writing. You must be a US diplomat. What country are you stationed in Jerkistan?
He got hurt in Texas one night (after 9 outstanding starts) and that was pretty much all she wrote. When he came back, he didn't throw as hard and was never the same in any capacity.
Craig Carton has never been right about much but he did call Joba a flash in the pan after the Cleveland midges incident.
Craig Carton has never been right about much but he did call Joba a flash in the pan after the Cleveland midges incident.
Carton wasn't right about that either. Joba was excellent as a starter the next year and got hurt. It happens.
Have fun, enjoy and represent!
Ive worked with the Director of Training and some other cats at Lincoln. Small world.
Not a single Yankees clip. Not one. The only won a quarter of the last 20 World Series, that's all.
Not a single Yankees clip. Not one. The only won a quarter of the last 20 World Series, that's all.
How else are they going to convince their bearded scrappy fanbase to watch them lose to the Astros?
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I work for a distributor of lincoln electric products and had training at lincoln all week. Wore my yankees shirt to training today and nonstop heckling from the cleveland people. Ill be about 15 rows behind Yankee dugout tonight. Cant wait
Ive worked with the Director of Training and some other cats at Lincoln. Small world.
Ive farted on Lincoln's entree before. Not just him, but Johnny HOpkins' AND Sloan Kettering's.
Agreed. Love what Ells did for this team in Aug. And most of Sept but he definitely cooled off the past few weeks.
Burn baby burn
Sale looked cooked today that series could be a quick one
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Altuve with two homers so far. He continues to prove why baseball is the best game in the world.
Sale looked cooked today that series could be a quick one
I think the expectation is that Houston and Cleveland will roll into the next round. Both teams are built for it.
Jesus.
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I work for a distributor of lincoln electric products and had training at lincoln all week. Wore my yankees shirt to training today and nonstop heckling from the cleveland people. Ill be about 15 rows behind Yankee dugout tonight. Cant wait
Ive worked with the Director of Training and some other cats at Lincoln. Small world.
Ive farted on Lincoln's entree before. Not just him, but Johnny HOpkins' AND Sloan Kettering's.
You've farted on virtually everything that's crossed your path, chop. It's what you do.
gimmeabreak
It's Always Sonny in Cleveland.
Yeah, pretty pathetic
Old habits n' all that. Looking for that to be worked out going into next season especially with the stuff he has to try to block.
Yeah, Austin fucking Romine has no business being in this game
He's throwing 58 foot breaking balls. Those are on him
This^^
Hats on a bed! - ( New Window )
He's been a tremendous slouch before this July
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not cy young but no slouch
He's been a tremendous slouch before this July
yeah well guess what it's october..have to deal with what he is now. let's get at the good Bauer which will be sweeter to beat
Bauer is great but they have to get a little something going.
That's about as pathetic as it gets.
Maybe. He's been a 4.5 and higher ERA pitcher until then
Is it the length of his half inning? Standing out in the field too long? What the fuck?
And he gets worked by scrub Bruce.
Are you going to keep posting the same thing until someone responds?
Tell us again how Betances should be a starting gpitcher. Enough
He's just doubled on a pitch low and away
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he can't hit pitches low and away
He's just doubled on a pitch low and away
Didn't homer off it...the double was luck from his perspective
Please get out of this inning and let's see if the bats wake up. Pretty please? With fuckin sugar on top?
The home runs and walks have never been an issue for him. Very strange
this was our best shot to steal a game in CLE and maybe never see a Game 5 with Kluber waiting.
ugh - need to get it going soon.
He had a shot for four or five years in the minors and he was terrible
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but you are no immune to criticism either. I just choose not to go that route with posters. I certainly would not trade betances with his stuff but I would not use him as a reliever. Give him another shot as a starter
He had a shot for four or five years in the minors and he was terrible
Yeah but maybe it's different now. You know?
Enjoy the game
Not remotely true but, hey, everyone else spouts that same bullshit too so what difference does it make?
Two bad starts in a row but most of the games he's thrown as a Yankee have been good. Let's not generalize.
Control has never been an issue for him so it's strange to see it now. Home runs too
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This is turning into a seriously aggravating game.
Sanchez has taken a beating back there tonight. And Game 2 is in like 19 hours.
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It has usually seemed to that nothing he throws ever deceives the hitter. Very few swings and outright misses. Control is an issue as well: he gets behind too often. Only a couple of games pitched by him as a Yankee have been any good, and this wasn't one of them.
He's a 3/4 starter. Ideally in a 5 game series you wouldn't have to start him at all, but clearly the Yankees don't have that luxury. He needs to not be afraid to throw first pitch strikes. A lot of it is confidence
The comments on Gray have gotten so absurd. How good is your rotation that you're not starting him at all in a series? Now he's a 4th starter?
He threw a bad game, that's it. Leave it at that
He was off tonight, and it's a shame that he couldn't give the team a strong or long outing.
But even if he had a great start tonight, the Yankees offense would still be getting no-hit with nothing more than a walk through 5 innings.
Sanchez has taken a beating back there tonight. And Game 2 is in like 19 hours.
God I hope not
Sad!
Can't have Romine's bat in the lineup and his defense is nowhere near good enough to make up for it
No, he hasnt
Srsly?
A mid 90s Glavine/Maddux REGULAR SEASON zone
Bottom line the way Bauer is pitching its pretty academic. I pray we do something because I understand the Indians have played historic ball the past few months but the falating they are getting from this Fox crew from pitch 1 has been hard to take.
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It has usually seemed to that nothing he throws ever deceives the hitter. Very few swings and outright misses. Control is an issue as well: he gets behind too often. Only a couple of games pitched by him as a Yankee have been any good, and this wasn't one of them.
He's a 3/4 starter. Ideally in a 5 game series you wouldn't have to start him at all, but clearly the Yankees don't have that luxury. He needs to not be afraid to throw first pitch strikes. A lot of it is confidence
The comments on Gray have gotten so absurd. How good is your rotation that you're not starting him at all in a series? Now he's a 4th starter?
He threw a bad game, that's it. Leave it at that
I can see if those pitches were going both ways... they're blatantly only going for strikes for Cleveland.
One of the most lopsided games called this season. I can't believe the shit i'm seeing tonight.
How the fuck does a wingnut like Bauer get this treatment?
You can tell, they're the ones who are hardly ever around except to bitch when things aren't going well.
They've walked Perez twice now. There are no words.
This is the real question. Also why Judge and not Ellsbury?
If you think they're done after tonight, you can fuck the hell off. We don't want you here.
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Thanks for clearing that up. And that's IF Bauer sustains his recent performance since Gray has been the much better pitcher over the course of their respective careers.
Gray, CC, Tanaka. Is there a whole lot of difference between these pitchers currently? All had solid years, although Tanaka was prone to some epic meltdowns. Point being, one of these guys is a "2" and one is a "4". It's all semantics.
CC is swell. He also is pretty much guaranteed not to give you more than 6 innings, sometimes 5
True but if the ump calls it fairly Bauer will make a mistake or two that gets hit because he isn't any good (like Kluber, Carrasco)
The Yanks are getting there - the Indians are there.
That said - we can score runs in bunches, not over till it's over.
Matt- I agree. He is a smirky, smarmy asswhipe. He's also a pretty good picture with a punchable face.
Fair point there.
One of them threw it for strikes.
The other one not only didn't throw it for strikes, but his misses weren't believable in the least.
I say this as someone who is a big fan of Gray in the past and going forward -- he was garbage tonight.
Put Torreyes at third and Frazier at first then.
Get Torreyes an at bat
Sandy Alomar's HR was pure luck that year...hit it off the end of the bat!
It's ok. Gotta learn quick though. Tomorrow is coming fast.
But their pitching is another story. Hope the bats come alive
He was literally unwrapping his gum when he made one of those calls. He wasn't even paying attention.
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Headley, their pinch hitting options with Bird vs a lefty are pretty limited, unless they are comfortable with Holiday at 1B.
Put Torreyes at third and Frazier at first then.
Wouldn't you just move Headley to 1B?
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Headley, their pinch hitting options with Bird vs a lefty are pretty limited, unless they are comfortable with Holiday at 1B.
Put Torreyes at third and Frazier at first then.
Wouldn't you just move Headley to 1B?
If you put the DH in the field, you lose the DH spot and the pitcher has to hit.
And Garcia served his purpose eating innings to rest the rest of the BP
But we’re virtually fooked anyway unless we figure out a way to get to Kluber
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In comment 13632463 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13632460 Andy Sky said:
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Headley, their pinch hitting options with Bird vs a lefty are pretty limited, unless they are comfortable with Holiday at 1B.
Put Torreyes at third and Frazier at first then.
Wouldn't you just move Headley to 1B?
If you put the DH in the field, you lose the DH spot and the pitcher has to hit.
Thanks, I didn't know that.
So once you declare your DH you can't use him in the field during the game unless you want to allow the pitcher to hit. Learn something new everyday.
He won 9 games after a Yankee loss this year. Hopefully he makes 10.
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by the zone but Bauer looked great tonight independently. The Indians outplayed the Yankees (thus far). There's a reason that they had the best record in the AL-- they are damn good.
True but if the ump calls it fairly Bauer will make a mistake or two that gets hit because he isn't any good (like Kluber, Carrasco)
You can think that if it makes you feel better, but it's nothing more than extremely wishful thinking.
Bauer was on fire tonight. He faced 23 batters. Even if you were you say that all 8 of his strikeouts were because of unfair umpiring, he still only gave up 2 hits and a walk in the remaining 15 at-bats-- and not all 8 of his strikeouts were bogus.
But no way the Yanks can use that as an excuse. They showed no ability to hit his big curveball consistently. As annoying as he looks (Bauer looks like the teenager hanging out smoking cigarettes and trying to look tough in front of the Wawa somewhere in Jersey when you stop for gas)...sometimes you have to tip your cap.
Indians had a clear plan in mind against guys like Judge, Sanchez et al - start their guy with the big curveball, and have him throw 75% curveballs. Last night it worked.
tough start. CC it's all on your shoulders now
Sonny Gray needs to throw more strikes early in the count. He cannot keep getting behind in the count and then need to come in. How many 3-2 counts did he have and how many times was he behind in the count 3-0, or 2-0? Cannot do that against a great hitting team. As a similar pitcher, he has better velocity than Jimmy Key and Mike Mussina but he does not control his pitches like they did. He has the stuff, but he wastes far too many pitches.
On to game two.
Sonny Gray needs to throw more strikes early in the count. He cannot keep getting behind in the count and then need to come in. How many 3-2 counts did he have and how many times was he behind in the count 3-0, or 2-0? Cannot do that against a great hitting team. As a similar pitcher, he has better velocity than Jimmy Key and Mike Mussina but he does not control his pitches like they did. He has the stuff, but he wastes far too many pitches.
On to game two.
Just read RAB. I wasn't delusional with respect to Gray's pitching and getting behind in counts.
That's a very generous interpretation. I wouldn't have complained about those strikes to Judge, Didi, and Headley at all if Gray/Warren/Garcia had gotten some/any of those calls too. When does Aaron Judge ever say anything to a HP ump? Joe visibly said, "You're having a bad game" to the HP ump. I'd say that was far less frustration than just an accurate observation.
One thing our pitchers must a better job of is holding runners, especially if they're going to be throwing so many pitches in the dirt. Ramirez sprinting around the bases on 2 wild pitches was in large part due to the humongous starting and secondary leads he got. Unless the balls are caught cleanly out of the dirt, there's literally no chance of throwing him out. I think that's a strategy CLE probably uses with their better base-runners.
For some reason, the high strike has been called consistently on Yanks this year without having the same zone for the opponent. DiDi, Judge and Headley often get the high strike called.
Like Stu said above - the strike zone isn't why they lost, but as a fan it is damn frustrating.
"The Yankees may have thought in landing Gray at the deadline that they were getting a top-tier starter—just two years ago, he finished third in the running for the Cy Young. But while he posted a 3.72 ERA in his 11 regular-season starts as a Yankee, he walked nearly 10 percent of the batters he faced and went more than six innings just three times. These days, he’s a fine pitcher, not an excellent one. He didn’t excel Wednesday night, either, and it’s hard to think the Yankees will be excited to see him back on the hill in Cleveland for a Game 5, should things get that far."
This. You make that trade 10 times out of 10.
Poll time - if the Yanks manage to stay alive, Garcia gets a start over Gray, yes or no? I'm leaning towards yes.....I believe in Gray long term, but he just doesn't have it right now. I don't know if something is physically wrong with him or what, but he's had three bad starts in a row now.
I wish I could say it was a crazy question, but unfortunately it isn't.
If Bruce connected that ball may have left the yard.
As a side note, I would like to see Severino tonight, then come back with CC and Tanaka at home.
But it's not happening.
It's ok. Gotta learn quick though. Tomorrow is coming fast.
Judge was swinging at those pitches because everything thrown in the vicinity of the zip code was being called a strike last night. For the Cleveland pitchers...
And for Sonny Gray, if he's going to be that wild with most of his pitches he'll never get the call on the close ones. They all need to challenge the hitters and if the get beat so be it. This constant nibbling on the corners and missing by a mile leading to 3-2 counts all day long will never get the job done.
people here are acting like the Yanks got royally screwed last night. They got beat by a better team - big difference.
PitchFX would disagree
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this is about calls Umps "typically" make acc to the site. I asked about the box on last nights broadcast... acc to that, the ump didn't go off course all that often.
Bottom line - Cleveland pitchers got friendlier calls by a good bit. Doesn't mean the Yankees played well, because they didn't, but the umps did them no favors either.
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assuming you believe in the little box they put up on the screen, the ump didn't miss that many.
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So according to that only 1-2 balls were called strikes and they were extremely borderline, correct?
I am only asking b/c I really do not recall seeing that many bad calls watching it last night - though admittedly I started doing other things after the 7th - and in fact, found it interesting how often the Ump got it right according to the box on screen
(i.e., close pitch outside the box, called a ball and the crowd groaned loudly wanting the strike)... I saw that quite often.
Ever peek at Tanaka's home road splits this year? I'm guessing no.