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NFT: 2018 Rock & Roll HOF Nominees

Chris in Philly : 10/5/2017 4:00 pm
-Bon Jovi
-Kate Bush
-The Cars
-Depeche Mode
-Dire Straits
-Eurythmics
-J. Geils Band
-Judas Priest
-LL Cool J
-MC5
-The Meters
-Moody Blues
-Radiohead
-Rage Against the Machine
-Rufus featuring Chaka Khan
-Nina Simone
-Sister Rosetta Tharpe
-Link Wray
-The Zombies
What a joke!  
NDMedics : 10/5/2017 4:03 pm : link
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RE: What a joke!  
Chris in Philly : 10/5/2017 4:06 pm : link
In comment 13631948 NDMedics said:
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They aren't all a joke. Who are you pissed about?
Agreed, they aren't all  
NDMedics : 10/5/2017 4:09 pm : link
a joke, but the absence of Carol King and Warren Zevon makes the whole thing a lot less credible for me.
I would have thought  
Enzo : 10/5/2017 4:14 pm : link
Depeche Mode was already in. I wonder if RATM's relative lack of output might hold them back. Didn't seem to affect Guns though. If Bon Jovi gets in, does Desmond Child go in with them?
Bon Jovi, The Cars, The Moody Blues should all get in...  
No Where Man : 10/5/2017 4:15 pm : link
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Dire Straits too....  
No Where Man : 10/5/2017 4:16 pm : link
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RATM would be one hell of a speech  
mac attack : 10/5/2017 4:21 pm : link
Plus they were pretty ahead of their time
No Tom Wilson?  
LostinLA : 10/5/2017 4:24 pm : link
Ridiculous!
Moody Blues is way overdue  
uconngiant : 10/5/2017 4:43 pm : link
I would think the Cars and Bon Jovi would get in as well.
amazing  
giantfan2000 : 10/5/2017 4:44 pm : link
R&R HOF ignores
British groups and Indie Rock

Where is

Pixies
Joy Division/New Order
The Smiths
The Jam
The Replacements
Husker Du
X
Sonic Youth
The Cure
Black Flag
Fugazi
The B-52's
Devo
My prediction...  
Chris in Philly : 10/5/2017 4:57 pm : link
-Bon Jovi
-Kate Bush
-The Cars
-Judas Priest
-LL Cool J
-Moody Blues
-Nina Simone
RATM made what, four albums?  
Greg from LI : 10/5/2017 5:02 pm : link
Not seeing it.
They usually...  
Chris in Philly : 10/5/2017 5:04 pm : link
will get a couple of the old fogies, a couple of solo acts, an ethnic act of some stripe, and a not so old group. I'm going to Vegas with my picks...
RATM makes it in  
viggie : 10/5/2017 5:19 pm : link
First time. They were pioneers/activists. No band has ever been like them before/since. And they are possibly more popular now then in their hay day.
Ratm is awesome  
djm : 10/5/2017 5:40 pm : link
A holy trinity of albums. Ratm, evil empire and battle of Los Angeles are terrific. That might just be enough for the hall. PS The rock n roll hall is a joke.
Being old has its advantages  
HomerJones45 : 10/5/2017 5:53 pm : link
you remember when these bands all started:

-Bon Jovi yes
-Kate Bush no
-The Cars yes
-Depeche Mode no, no one over 14 ever listened to them
-Dire Straits yes
-Eurythmics no, they were an oddity not HOF worthy
-J. Geils Band yes
-Judas Priest no, never than popular
-LL Cool J yes, helped start a musical genre
-MC5 yes, ditto
-The Meters could go either way. they helped start a genre but it disappeared pretty quickly
-Moody Blues yes
-Radiohead no
-Rage Against the Machine no, no one over 16 ever listened to them but they will probably get in because of their activism
-Rufus featuring Chaka Khan no, basically known for one hit
-Nina Simone never particularly popular but will get in for her activism
-Sister Rosetta Tharpe Gospel singer but she is a lock
-Link Wray no
-The Zombies yes
and to offend our British and indy followers  
HomerJones45 : 10/5/2017 5:59 pm : link

Pixies no
Joy Division/New Order no
The Smiths No, a Jam derivative
The Jam Yes, they get the blame for alt rock
The Replacements yes
Husker Du yes
X no
Sonic Youth no
The Cure yes
Black Flag no
Fugazi no
The B-52's yes
Devo GTFO. A circus act
Wouldn’t surprise me if  
Phil in LA : 10/5/2017 6:15 pm : link
Eurythmics made it. Dave Stewart is popular in high places. Likewise, Cars and J. Geils. Probably the Meters, and The Zombies lobby has been persistent.
Mark knopflers guitar skills should alone get them in  
TommytheElephant : 10/5/2017 6:15 pm : link
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What bullshit!!  
Blue Moon : 10/5/2017 6:26 pm : link
Where's POCO! They taught the Eagles how to be the Eagles and they're still touring. What a sham!
I like a number of these,  
DonQuixote : 10/5/2017 7:03 pm : link
but Radiohead is by far the most instrumental band on this list...the talking heads of their era
RE: Agreed, they aren't all  
DonQuixote : 10/5/2017 7:06 pm : link
In comment 13631954 NDMedics said:
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a joke, but the absence of Carol King and Warren Zevon makes the whole thing a lot less credible for me.


Warren Zevon not in already? That's not right...

Harry Nillson would be worth discussing. Like Zevon, most of his contemporaries would put the genius label on him.
RE: Mark knopflers guitar skills should alone get them in  
DonQuixote : 10/5/2017 7:06 pm : link
In comment 13632084 TommytheElephant said:
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That seems like a lock.
I can't believe the Moody Blues aren't in already  
PatersonPlank : 10/5/2017 7:08 pm : link
My prediction:

Moody Blues
Bon Jovi
Cars
J Giels
Dire Straits
The Zombies
And no  
JohnF : 10/5/2017 7:11 pm : link
Ian Anderson/Jethro Tull. The Hall is a joke. It's the new "mistake by the lake".
RE: And no  
DonQuixote : 10/5/2017 7:15 pm : link
In comment 13632131 JohnF said:
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Ian Anderson/Jethro Tull. The Hall is a joke. It's the new "mistake by the lake".


true
RE: Being old has its advantages  
djm : 10/5/2017 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13632067 HomerJones45 said:
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you remember when these bands all started:

-Bon Jovi yes
-Kate Bush no
-The Cars yes
-Depeche Mode no, no one over 14 ever listened to them
-Dire Straits yes
-Eurythmics no, they were an oddity not HOF worthy
-J. Geils Band yes
-Judas Priest no, never than popular
-LL Cool J yes, helped start a musical genre
-MC5 yes, ditto
-The Meters could go either way. they helped start a genre but it disappeared pretty quickly
-Moody Blues yes
-Radiohead no
-Rage Against the Machine no, no one over 16 ever listened to them but they will probably get in because of their activism
-Rufus featuring Chaka Khan no, basically known for one hit
-Nina Simone never particularly popular but will get in for her activism
-Sister Rosetta Tharpe Gospel singer but she is a lock
-Link Wray no
-The Zombies yes


Christ...
Priest  
Steve L : 10/5/2017 7:20 pm : link
It’s a shame they aren’t already in. Pioneers of an entire genre of music. They’re a band that actually belongs on their merit, not popularity.
rock music  
RasputinPrime : 10/5/2017 7:21 pm : link
is far too subjective to award gold stars. The best i've ever heard remain virtually unknown.

I'm glad there are at least a few interesting artists up this year.
Outrage!  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 10/5/2017 7:54 pm : link
"My favorites aren't on the list, and I know more than everyone else!"

It's the same bitch fest every year.
Moody Blues for sure everyone else is so so  
gtt350 : 10/5/2017 8:28 pm : link
Bon Jovi I got the power still makes me throw the remote. No Carole King really! also mentioned above Warren Zevon surely worthy
Nice list...  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/5/2017 9:20 pm : link
..Put them all in, who gives a fuck?
can they change this to the "Music Hall of Fame"?  
EricJ : 10/5/2017 9:23 pm : link
because it stopped being all about rock and roll a long time ago. I am surprised they did not put Weird Al in there already
RE: Priest  
madgiantscow009 : 10/5/2017 10:23 pm : link
In comment 13632141 Steve L said:
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It’s a shame they aren’t already in. Pioneers of an entire genre of music. They’re a band that actually belongs on their merit, not popularity.


the most influential band of the group.
some very good bands/musicians on that list...  
feelflows : 10/5/2017 10:43 pm : link
but how many are Hall worthy???


-The Cars - debatable that they really popularized New Wave..but I don't think Hall worthy.
-Depeche Mode - VERY influential. I say yes.
-J. Geils Band - Outstanding Blues Rock band, but not Hall
-Judas Priest - VERY influential. Fantastic albums. YES
-MC5 -- Possibly the Godfather's of Punk. I say YES.
-The Meters - Tremendously underrated FUNK band. No.
-Radiohead - Tremendous first 3 albums. I like most after, but maybe TOO ahead of their time??
-Rage Against the Machine - Punk/Rap.. great band, but not enough.
-Nina Simone - Tremendous voice (both literally and figuratively) but not Hall

If I had a vote, I'd go Priest/Depeche Mode/MC5

I'm sure none will make it.
i love the smiths  
markky : 10/5/2017 11:50 pm : link
but no way should they be in the HoF.

when you consider the Moody Blues from "Go Now" through Nights in White Satin you could argue they should have been in one of the first few classes, not 2017. what a joke.

IMHO

p.s. would love for Thorogood to get in some day.
I like a lot of those artists  
JerryNYG : 10/6/2017 5:32 am : link
I think Radiohead is a lock just based on the "OK Computer" era alone. They were hugely influential and one of the biggest bands on the planet at that point. I have felt like their newer stuff is hit or miss, but they keep pushing the envelope.
RE: Agreed, they aren't all  
TheMick7 : 10/6/2017 6:55 am : link
In comment 13631954 NDMedics said:
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a joke, but the absence of Carol King and Warren Zevon makes the whole thing a lot less credible for me.


This! SMH
I'm not a Radiohead fan, but they're a lock  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2017 9:14 am : link
Critics have always adored them.
Homer  
RinR : 10/6/2017 9:14 am : link
you remember when The Cars and B-52s started but not Depeche Mode or New Order? Makes no sense.
RE: Homer  
YAJ2112 : 10/6/2017 9:22 am : link
In comment 13632679 RinR said:
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you remember when The Cars and B-52s started but not Depeche Mode or New Order? Makes no sense.


He was saying no to them getting in to the RRHOF, not no to remembering when they started.
Amazing how Depeche Mode managed to sell all those albums  
jcn56 : 10/6/2017 9:28 am : link
to kids 14 and under.
Ok  
RinR : 10/6/2017 9:29 am : link
but this still makes no sense:

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-Depeche Mode no, no one over 14 ever listened to them
RE: Ok  
YAJ2112 : 10/6/2017 9:32 am : link
In comment 13632699 RinR said:
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but this still makes no sense:



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-Depeche Mode no, no one over 14 ever listened to them



I didn't say any of it made sense or not, was just clarifying that one point.
Love seeing KATE BUSH get props!  
x meadowlander : 10/6/2017 9:39 am : link
One of my favorite artists from the 80's-90's, really helped open my horizons musically - one of the most creative artists of the era, a phenomenal arranger, producer and singer.

RE: and to offend our British and indy followers  
weeg in the bronx : 10/6/2017 12:50 pm : link
I got to weigh in on this:
Pixies: Pioneering band, especially with women in alternative rock.
Joy Division/New Order: Depeche mode is being considered, these guys came first.
The Smiths: A Jam derivative? Uh, OK. Maybe not? Joy Division derivative maybe.
The Jam Yes, they get the blame for alt rock - what? That would lie with the next two bands.
The Replacements yes
Husker Du yes
X Pioneers of west coast punk. A great American band, absolutely should be in there.
Sonic Youth no. OK I am not a fan but they have a signifcatn body of work, a pioneering sound and Gordon should be in for her performance at the Nirvana indication.
The Cure Ok you say no to the Smiths but yes to the Cure?
Black Flag Their influence cannot be argued. Pioneers in punk, pioneers in metal crossover. the touring alone inspired hundreds of bands. They created touring routes for the explosion of alt music. Basically every independent label that started every band from 1982 onwards owes something to Black Flag too, and thus every indie band.
Fugazi Not enough of a body of work
The B-52's yes
Devo Absolutely! Pioneers in their own right.

As for RATM, I really like them but they too have a small body of work, inconsistent in output as well. I get the rap, metal, punk crossover but lots of bands you never heard of toiled at that for years. Hell I saw them open for Body Count before they had the first ecord out. Should Body Count be in RRHOF?
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christian : 10/6/2017 12:57 pm : link
Depeche Mode currently has the 5th highest grossing tour in the world this year, playing a ton of material off their latest record. Of which debuted in the top 10 in the US and UK.

Aside from being the most influential electronic band of all time, they are wildly popular and have been for 30 years.

But no over 14 ever listened to them. I guess consider the source?
Sonic Youth absolutely belongs...  
x meadowlander : 10/6/2017 2:00 pm : link
...added colors to the R&R pallet that simply were not there before - their influence is profound.

Only band I ever saw that was so loud I got dizzy. Had to walk out of Maxwell's midset!
In the 60's, no band was bigger than the Beatles  
mavric : 10/6/2017 9:30 pm : link
But by the late 60's and early 70's, two bands had more hits and sold more records than the Beatles:

Three Dog Night:

Joy to the World (aka: Jeremiah was a Bullfrog)
One
Eli's Coming
Never Been to Spain
Celebrate
Easy to be Hard
Shambala
Mama Told Me (Not to Come)
etc.

Tommy James and the Shondells:

I Think We're Alone Now
Crimson And Clover
Mony Mony (pilfered a decade later by Billy Idol)
Sweet Cherry Wine
Draggin the Line
Crystal Blue Persuation
I Like The Way
She
Etc.

Neither band in the HOF and neither band nominated for HOF

WTF????????
RE: Agreed, they aren't all  
madgiantscow009 : 10/6/2017 11:28 pm : link
In comment 13631954 NDMedics said:
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a joke, but the absence of Carol King and Warren Zevon makes the whole thing a lot less credible for me.


never met another zevon fan until BBI.
There are other worthy acts  
Matt M. : 10/7/2017 10:40 am : link
But the one I am most interested in seeing voted in is 'LL Cool J. He was a pioneer in his genre, a legitimate star, and is still a big hit over 3 decades later. It's an absolute joke someone like Tupac was in before him.
RE: There are other worthy acts  
Steve L : 10/7/2017 4:23 pm : link
In comment 13634246 Matt M. said:
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But the one I am most interested in seeing voted in is 'LL Cool J. He was a pioneer in his genre, a legitimate star, and is still a big hit over 3 decades later. It's an absolute joke someone like Tupac was in before him.


Just saw LL in ‘15. He was great.
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