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Credit to Flowers for the last 2 games

Elite Mobster #32 : 10/5/2017 5:07 pm
Flowers has been picking up the nuances of Left tackle. He 's played along side 3 left guards and is holding his own, and I see improvement. For Example: There is a technique when Left Tackles use their leverage to ride a defender right past the QB so he isn't touched. He has been stepping inside of bull rushers and neutralizing that move. He is playing more confidently.

I listed statistics of the Giants accomplishments this so far this season.
It looks like opponents don't have any more sacks against us then we do. Our Defense has 8 sacks as opposed to the opponents 8 sacks against us. For example we only have 2 rushing TD's against us and our TD came from Eli.

Giants not far away from a win !
New York Giants
Opponents

TOTAL FIRST DOWNS 72 78
FIRST DOWNS (RUSHING-PASSING-BY-PENALTY) 11-56-5 33-41-4
THIRD DOWN CONVERSIONS 19/51 23/55
FOURTH DOWN CONVERSIONS 1/6 2/5
TOTAL OFFENSIVE YARDS 1,297 1,437
OFFENSE (PLAYS-AVERAGE YARDS) 249/5.2 262/5.5
TOTAL RUSHING YARDS 237 571
RUSHING (PLAYS-AVERAGE YARDS) 75-3.2 125-4.6
TOTAL PASSING YARDS 1,113 898
PASSING (COMP-ATT-INT-AVG) 116-166-4-6.7 82-129-0-7
SACKS 8.0 8.0
FIELD GOALS 4/5 9/12
TOUCHDOWNS 7 10
TOUCHDOWNS (RUSHING-PASSING-RETURNS-DEFENSIVE) 1-6-0-0 2-7-1-0
TIME OF POSSESSION 27:25 32:35
TURNOVER RATIO -2
How long  
XBRONX : 10/5/2017 5:16 pm : link
is Eli taking to release the ball: By the way Flowers run blocking sucks.
Again, setting the bar so low  
Diver_Down : 10/5/2017 5:27 pm : link
where the effort deserves "credit".

"He didn't ruin the game". - Shaun O'Hara
RE: How long  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/5/2017 5:28 pm : link
In comment 13632025 XBRONX said:
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is Eli taking to release the ball: By the way Flowers run blocking sucks.


So does his cage. he should start there
Glad Stats Say He Is Improving  
Bernie : 10/5/2017 5:33 pm : link
but the only stat I care about is 0-4.
RE: Again, setting the bar so low  
The_Boss : 10/5/2017 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13632043 Diver_Down said:
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where the effort deserves "credit".

"He didn't ruin the game". - Shaun O'Hara


Agree.
9th overall pick.

Lets give credit where its due - the guy has been improved this season  
PatersonPlank : 10/5/2017 5:52 pm : link
Jerry and Hart have been bigger issues. Its not always necessary to kill everyone ll the time.
RE: Lets give credit where its due - the guy has been improved this season  
Diver_Down : 10/5/2017 5:59 pm : link
In comment 13632065 PatersonPlank said:
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Jerry and Hart have been bigger issues. Its not always necessary to kill everyone ll the time.


No, but why do we need to be content with participation trophies? Like Shaun said, "He didn't ruin the game". Others have been more than capable of doing that for him.
Faint Praise  
Rick in Dallas : 10/5/2017 6:50 pm : link
....
Iíve seem enough  
Dave on the UWS : 10/5/2017 6:50 pm : link
to be confident he is a starting OL Iím this league - just not at LT. Apparently Mac and Solari havenít figured that out yet
I just wish  
Mark from Jersey : 10/5/2017 6:52 pm : link
They would put him on the right side.
Yes, they are all playing great  
ZogZerg : 10/5/2017 6:53 pm : link
It just looks like they suck.
I have a feeling we end up drafting a LT round 1; a OG round 2  
SGMen : 10/5/2017 6:59 pm : link
Flowers flips to the right side. I would not be surprised if both Pugh and Richburg get bigger money deals elsewhere as we retool. B. Jones at OC and a veteran signing for backup or maybe even starter, someone cheaper than Richburg perhaps. So hard to say this far out.
Elite  
gmen4ever : 10/5/2017 7:10 pm : link
Good stuff, but I have little confidence in flowers. The delta in our rushing statistics as compared to our opponents is staggering.
WHo the fuck are most of you posters  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/5/2017 7:17 pm : link
Elite has been around for a while the rest of you are just coming out to hate. Go back to your holes, you trolls.
RE: Lets give credit where its due - the guy has been improved this season  
ZGiants98 : 10/5/2017 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13632065 PatersonPlank said:
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Jerry and Hart have been bigger issues. Its not always necessary to kill everyone ll the time.


Hart has played in one game this year.
To be fair to Flowers and run blocking  
JohnF : 10/5/2017 7:22 pm : link
It would help if the real OC would call more run plays. It's not only running backs that get better the more you call runs, the OL can get into it's own rhythm.

We need to go Two TE, with another TE at H Back and Eli under center, and start pounding. Yes, we won't get results right away, but it will help in the long run. Being in "11" 90% of the time is killing this team.
To clarify  
JohnF : 10/5/2017 7:25 pm : link
One TE next to Flowers, and one TE at H-Back. Not 3 TE's as the standard formation.
If this is considered a quality LT  
Sy'56 : 10/5/2017 9:12 pm : link
the standard has been brought to a new low.
Yeah, you're really grasping at straws, here....  
Britt in VA : 10/5/2017 9:17 pm : link
this is a dismal situation.
Flowers  
Marty866b : 10/5/2017 9:28 pm : link
Is awful. Please stop complementing him when he has just played bad,not atrocious. He has terrible technique and
any good defensive end will eat him up. One of the main reasons why we are 0-4.
RE: Yeah, you're really grasping at straws, here....  
Diver_Down : 10/5/2017 9:33 pm : link
In comment 13632321 Britt in VA said:
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this is a dismal situation.


To highlight the desperate nature of the situation, the OP is giving credit to Ereck for beginning to pick up the nuances of playing LT. It has only taken the man(child for defenders of Ereck) 59 games starting at LT to begin to do so. Can't wait for the next 60 games where he becomes proficient.
Diver Down in all seriousness you sound like an experienced  
Elite Mobster #32 : 10/6/2017 10:03 am : link
Surfer- I'm sure you accomplished your experience over time and from what age did you start?

Even though its a short professional window for Football players. Offensive lineman can play a good 10 years or more if they pick the nuances of the position. As life goes I'm sure you have experienced a wipe out or 2 before you became great at surfing.
What gives you the idea that I surf?  
Diver_Down : 10/6/2017 10:12 am : link
Your assumption couldn't be more wrong. My handle comes from my past career where I was an Instructor throughout the Caribbean and worked as a Staff Instructor training future dive instructors.
RE: Flowers  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/6/2017 12:31 pm : link
In comment 13632341 Marty866b said:
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Is awful. Please stop complementing him when he has just played bad,not atrocious. He has terrible technique and
any good defensive end will eat him up. One of the main reasons why we are 0-4.

Flowers is garbage

he cannot play in space and his run blocking is shit. he cannot pull and make it to the point of attack
He still sucks  
KWALL2 : 10/6/2017 12:40 pm : link
He can't play OT in the NFL. Switch to guard or cut and move on.
Guard would be a good move for Flowers  
Elite Mobster #32 : 10/6/2017 12:54 pm : link
Watch him destroy some people inside. He wants to play physical, and I think if he has a chance to run forward to block Linebackers, he may be more effective.

I wish there was some way to get Chad Wheeler into the lineup
We should realize if he can play we now have the nucleus of a young line.
his feet suck  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/6/2017 3:20 pm : link
cheats outside, lets guys cross his face.. this pick
and the David Wilson pick really set the OL back
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