Fuck the Indians. Fuck Cleveland. Fuck the ump. The Yanks didn't lose this game, the Indians didn't win this game. Fuck the umps again. Way to celebrate like you just won the world series. I hope you just blew your load and you lose four straight.
didn't do a good job, but he had to get 4 outs because his manager made one of the worst mistakes in the history of sports.
That's not hyperbole. If an NFL coach didn't challenge something that was clearly a fumble that essentially would ice a playoff game and then lost, he would lose his job.
Chad was gassed - no shame in that. Smoltz saw it right away. Â
Decided to go to the Ben MacAdoo school of managing tonight. I was screaming at him after that decision to not challenge and knew it would bite the team in the ass. Yanks and Giants both need new coaches in the worst ways possible. This is the kind of loss you don't recover from, so disappointing as I was looking forward to watching at least a few more baseball games with the Giants season already over.
Joe has 6 closer-caliber pitchers in the bullpen, but he still Â
I was wondering earlier where the fuck Holliday is. One playoff tested guy with good pitch selection and power. Yea let's sit him and not have him hit all series.
Talking about not wanting to break a pitchers rhythm and 30 second bullshit.
Sanchez was adamant that he was hit, and there is nothing to lose by challenging.
THE FUCKING INNING WAS OVER IF YOU CHALLENGE YOU FUCKING IDIOT. It wasn't the difference between a foul ball and a HBP, it was the difference between a strikeout, end of inning and a HBP.
Seriously, fire him now. That explanation was worse than blaming someone else.
All he needed to know was Sanchez knew it hit the knob. You have no risk in challenging at that point.
Torre survived multiple fireable offenses - using Weaver in 03, burning the Bullpen out in 04 - because he had the four rings. Joe only has one. Time for a change, see ya at Old Timers Day
But his handling of this series has been terrible. I won't cry if he gets canned
Same page here. As I said earlier. Joe's non-challenge was Grady Little '03 level incompetence and that cost Little his job. I like Joe a lot and the main reason I wouldn't fire him is because I don't see a clear cut replacement.
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One of the worst losses in Yankees postseason history.
We've been lucky enough to witness far far far more great moments than just about any fan base. I've been watching since '76. That is by far the shittiest loss I've ever seen.
Game 4 of 2004 ALCS has to take the cake, but this is right up there.
Toereyes is gonna take the heat, but joe cant let delin pitch after the walk. he already pitched 2 and is a danger with runners on. also after the steal you walk gomes. plus the non review.
Now he's basically enforcing a rule that umpires don't enforce on himself. They didn't tell him he had to give a decision he gave it to them himself because he was thinking of a dumb rule that they never even enforce and weren't trying to enforce.
Just trust what sanchez and chisenhall did.
They have to fire him. Any manager that could do what he did in that situation can never be trusted in a big spot ever again.
I can't believe what he just said. He actually would have been better off if he threw someone under the bus
Chad Green was already out of the flow. He wasn't right from the moment he got out there. It took him forever to get A-Jax out, then he gave up a hard hit double to a shitty hitter.
But this is TERRIBLE fucking managing. No excuse for that shit. Contract is up. Previous poster is right. Let someone else ride this run and steer the ship for the next dynasty of Yankees baseball.
One of the worst losses in Yankees postseason history.
We've been lucky enough to witness far far far more great moments than just about any fan base. I've been watching since '76. That is by far the shittiest loss I've ever seen.
Game 4 of 2004 ALCS has to take the cake, but this is right up there.
naaa '04 was bad but that was over in the first inning. This one we had to be tantalized and tortured for almost 3 hours AFTER the grandslam
and argued with some of you guys about it here in the past. But that time is done. Cashman set him up with 5 bazookas in the bullpen and he’s gone full fucking debacle with it.
And that’s not even covering choosing not to review. What does that say to a team full of players going all out to win a huge road playoff game?
We ripped Kluber tonight on the road, had an 8-3 lead and choked it away. Just ducking terrible.
Yep, and none of the fucking morons in the interview room in Cleveland went after him even 10% as much as they should have.
Who cares we all know he fucked up. What should they do start a fight?
Yes, they all should have had the exact response that Curry and Flaherty did in the studio.
They let him off the hook in the interview. No one challenged him when he basically said he enforced a rule on himself that the umpires werent even enforcing.
Every question in that PC should have been about that 6th inning, from taking CC out to the rest. Each explanation should have been followed up by a question pressing him more. The media in new york knows how to go on the attack against coaches even when they have no business doing so, yet they all sat there on their asses tonight when they needed to attack him
Toe shit the bed by getting picked off while in scoring position.
Thanks Joe. Thanks Toe.
The lineup was catatonic for 3-4 innings afterwards.
That's not hyperbole. If an NFL coach didn't challenge something that was clearly a fumble that essentially would ice a playoff game and then lost, he would lose his job.
Right in time for the rangers and Knicks... Sigh...
What the fuck was the downside?
Let fucking Holliday start Sunday.
I know we are a year early, but this is a tough way to lose.
Let fucking Holliday start Sunday.
I was wondering earlier where the fuck Holliday is. One playoff tested guy with good pitch selection and power. Yea let's sit him and not have him hit all series.
Talking about not wanting to break a pitchers rhythm and 30 second bullshit.
Sanchez was adamant that he was hit, and there is nothing to lose by challenging.
THE FUCKING INNING WAS OVER IF YOU CHALLENGE YOU FUCKING IDIOT. It wasn't the difference between a foul ball and a HBP, it was the difference between a strikeout, end of inning and a HBP.
Seriously, fire him now. That explanation was worse than blaming someone else.
All he needed to know was Sanchez knew it hit the knob. You have no risk in challenging at that point.
They basically took his bullshit explanation and didn't hammer him on it
Same page here. As I said earlier. Joe's non-challenge was Grady Little '03 level incompetence and that cost Little his job. I like Joe a lot and the main reason I wouldn't fire him is because I don't see a clear cut replacement.
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One of the worst losses in Yankees postseason history.
We've been lucky enough to witness far far far more great moments than just about any fan base. I've been watching since '76. That is by far the shittiest loss I've ever seen.
Game 4 of 2004 ALCS has to take the cake, but this is right up there.
He was pitching great in this game. Oddly enough, had he not pitched so well Joe probably would've pulled him and used Chappy for Bruce.
I mean a bit of offense would help too.
Now he's basically enforcing a rule that umpires don't enforce on himself. They didn't tell him he had to give a decision he gave it to them himself because he was thinking of a dumb rule that they never even enforce and weren't trying to enforce.
Just trust what sanchez and chisenhall did.
They have to fire him. Any manager that could do what he did in that situation can never be trusted in a big spot ever again.
I can't believe what he just said. He actually would have been better off if he threw someone under the bus
Chad Green was already out of the flow. He wasn't right from the moment he got out there. It took him forever to get A-Jax out, then he gave up a hard hit double to a shitty hitter.
But this is TERRIBLE fucking managing. No excuse for that shit. Contract is up. Previous poster is right. Let someone else ride this run and steer the ship for the next dynasty of Yankees baseball.
Later Joe.
Yep, and none of the fucking morons in the interview room in Cleveland went after him even 10% as much as they should have.
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He never should have been in that position, not after 51 pitches on Tuesday and 1.1 today
He was pitching great in this game. Oddly enough, had he not pitched so well Joe probably would've pulled him and used Chappy for Bruce.
Robertson also needs to throw the breaking ball there. let him walk if it misses
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One of the worst losses in Yankees postseason history.
We've been lucky enough to witness far far far more great moments than just about any fan base. I've been watching since '76. That is by far the shittiest loss I've ever seen.
Game 4 of 2004 ALCS has to take the cake, but this is right up there.
naaa '04 was bad but that was over in the first inning. This one we had to be tantalized and tortured for almost 3 hours AFTER the grandslam
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Flaherty and Curry on attack.
Yep, and none of the fucking morons in the interview room in Cleveland went after him even 10% as much as they should have.
Who cares we all know he fucked up. What should they do start a fight?
And that’s not even covering choosing not to review. What does that say to a team full of players going all out to win a huge road playoff game?
We ripped Kluber tonight on the road, had an 8-3 lead and choked it away. Just ducking terrible.
I fucking hate our coaches. Hate them.
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Flaherty and Curry on attack.
Yep, and none of the fucking morons in the interview room in Cleveland went after him even 10% as much as they should have.
Who cares we all know he fucked up. What should they do start a fight?
Yes, they all should have had the exact response that Curry and Flaherty did in the studio.
They let him off the hook in the interview. No one challenged him when he basically said he enforced a rule on himself that the umpires werent even enforcing.
Every question in that PC should have been about that 6th inning, from taking CC out to the rest. Each explanation should have been followed up by a question pressing him more. The media in new york knows how to go on the attack against coaches even when they have no business doing so, yet they all sat there on their asses tonight when they needed to attack him