I do not share this opinion. I thought Eli played well today, and under considerable pressure and taking some shots. He was suplexed on the fumble.
He missed a bunch of deep throws in the first half, including several of the few times Odell has been open on a deep pass this season (and not double covered). He threw inaccurately to Marshall down the sideline (despite Brandon making a miraculous catch). He threw inaccurately to Engram down the sideline.
Eli was solid in the second half, but he was one of several main reasons they trailed at the half.
Reese bought his way out of a shitty defense but not only couldn't buy an offense by blowing the draft .
This team has no direction on offense how many slants and
dumpoffs can a team run .
Then they take the only Rb that gave them a spark sits on the
bench in a desperation drive . The under use of the TE's makes zero sense and our #1 pick had zero catches today
now they have beaten OBJ to a pulp trying to make next to
impossible plays was it only fitting that he got injured .
The writing has been on the wall for the past 21 games .
He does not inspire anyone with his crap attitude and not
taking responsibility . I pray we lose every game and fire
Reece at the bye . then clean house at the end of the season
I agree. We supposedly have 2 good TEs now yet MacAdoo doesn't know how to use them. But he really doesn't know how to use any of the talent efficiently on this team. Too bad. He might have been a good HC if 5 years as an assistant but he just is not ready for this job.
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Eli is not the only problem on this team... but a QB who is accurate and mobile would really help this team, and Eli is neither.
he misses way too many easy throws and can't do much of anything when a play breaks down. he also can't throw downfield with any consistency.
Football games come down to a handful of plays and Eli usually is responsible for the team coming down on the wrong side of those plays.
I do not share this opinion. I thought Eli played well today, and under considerable pressure and taking some shots. He was suplexed on the fumble.
Come on man. Eli overthrew guys. He threw behind guys. He seen pressure that wasn't there and he stepped into pressure that he didn't need to. Eli played terribly. It's amazing the low bar that we've set for Eli. If he makes a couple of great throws, all is good!
And before all the Eli apologists go crazy, Eli was far from the biggest problem again today. But he did not play well.
but Reese may be at the top of the pile when it comes to culprits. We need to add talent through the draft and he doesn’t have a very good record at all. When he tries to rectify it he’s spending major dollars on Free Agents and that has a domino effect on the rest of the roster in terms of quality.
McAdoo needs to be a better Head Coach. I don’t think he’s doing a very good job at all. Team has no spirit or identity. No physicality, no heavy- handed ness.
I don’t know where to start! I think the Giants have to blow this whole thing up, starting at the top with GM, Head Coach, staff and players. There are some decent pieces on the team, however there needs to be more and players need to play better fundamentally. I just don’t feel like this team is going to win a game.
RE: RE: RE: People ask how a new QB makes this team better? Â
Eli is not the only problem on this team... but a QB who is accurate and mobile would really help this team, and Eli is neither.
he misses way too many easy throws and can't do much of anything when a play breaks down. he also can't throw downfield with any consistency.
Football games come down to a handful of plays and Eli usually is responsible for the team coming down on the wrong side of those plays.
I do not share this opinion. I thought Eli played well today, and under considerable pressure and taking some shots. He was suplexed on the fumble.
Come on man. Eli overthrew guys. He threw behind guys. He seen pressure that wasn't there and he stepped into pressure that he didn't need to. Eli played terribly. It's amazing the low bar that we've set for Eli. If he makes a couple of great throws, all is good!
And before all the Eli apologists go crazy, Eli was far from the biggest problem again today. But he did not play well.
Pass a new rule that you cannot throw to your tightends? Engrams had only FOUR targets in the whole game!!
Only for the Giants.
That's complaining just to complain.
The receivers were more consistently open than they've been all season. Darkwa and Gallman were shredding the Chargers. Then at the end, Engram wasn't even playing his regular position. If Eli hits some of those deep throws in the first half, no one is complaining at all.
RE: actually Eli was one of the bigger problems today Â
Eli is not the only problem on this team... but a QB who is accurate and mobile would really help this team, and Eli is neither.
he misses way too many easy throws and can't do much of anything when a play breaks down. he also can't throw downfield with any consistency.
Football games come down to a handful of plays and Eli usually is responsible for the team coming down on the wrong side of those plays.
I do not share this opinion. I thought Eli played well today, and under considerable pressure and taking some shots. He was suplexed on the fumble.
Come on man. Eli overthrew guys. He threw behind guys. He seen pressure that wasn't there and he stepped into pressure that he didn't need to. Eli played terribly. It's amazing the low bar that we've set for Eli. If he makes a couple of great throws, all is good!
And before all the Eli apologists go crazy, Eli was far from the biggest problem again today. But he did not play well.
Well, I did not say he was perfect. But, he was under pressure the whole game and he hit some big time throws. As far as stepping into pressure, I thought he moved well in the pocket at times and the "stepping" into pressure was often him moving from where the original pressure was coming from only to move into another rusher because the line kinda sucks.
Overall the Giants are bad team and Eli is caught up in all of that. But, he seems very far down the list of problems today.
Today did suck though, one of the worst days I can remember for the G-men.
Also, on the game thread and elsewhere many claim Eli throws helped the injuries along. Well, those are fluke injuries. The slant to Beckham was a bit high, but he leaves his feet all the time regardless. You would think Eli was the most inaccurate passer in the NFL and when I watch other games and compare QB's to Eli I do not see that at all.
still consulting, if so, somebody needs to make a call to go through player eval inclusive of putting them in REAL games and what they need next season.
yes, he was under pressure - but all QB's face pressure.
what was much more obvious and problematic was his inability to escape any of that pressure, but more than that... were the absolute mis throws (high, long, before the receiver was ready) he made all day long.
he set up both SS and OBJ's injury plays with his inaccurate throws, and was missing wide open RB's in the flat all afternoon...never mind the long throws he missed in the 1st half that may have changed the complexion of the game.
Bullshit. He was on his back most of the day because he's playing behind a high school quality o-line or worse!
HOLY SHIT!!! Why don't we just trade Eli now, so he does t have to put up with this god awful shit offensive line! and we don't have to listen to all this Eli is the fucking problem with this team!! Give me a fucking break! The guy is getting killed out there, and he was pretty mobile out there when he could run for his life!!!
as he has experience as a returner and didn’t look too bad in pre-season. Not much of a receiver, but Harris didn’t play receiver all that much either.
And so we might be looking at Lewis as the #1 next week! Wow wtf!
as he has experience as a returner and didn’t look too bad in pre-season. Not much of a receiver, but Harris didn’t play receiver all that much either.
And so we might be looking at Lewis as the #1 next week! Wow wtf!
It will be good to see what Lewis can do when a DC is paying attention to him in a lineup and game prep. Right now, he looks good, but is he like a Beasley and nobody pays attention until he is unaccounted for and burns your ass.
Will this Beckham injury end up giving McAdoo a pass? Â
Regardless of the 0-4 start with OBJ, I feel like that will largely be forgotten in 3 months. Not sure it even matters who coaches this team next year.
I've been waiting for the seam pass to the TE all year. That's all we heard about. I really don't know, because I don't get to see every game. How many times have we actually run that play?
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HOLY SHIT!!! Why don't we just trade Eli now, so he does t have to put up with this god awful shit offensive line!
I am pretty sure you were being sarcastic. However, if there is anyone out there with thoughts of trading Eli... who would make that trade and who would take Eli's contract?
Jets are 3-2? and the Eagles are 4-1...... damn this season hurts!
No, the worst thing about this season is the 0-5 start by the Giants. Who gives a shit about the Jets. Would you have felt better if the Jets and Eagles were 0-5?
The injuries will be part of the reason this team will suck Â
the rest of the way. But, they won't be the only reason and they aren't the reason the Giants lost. Once again, the D cam up short in the second half, INT aside.
Jets are 3-2? and the Eagles are 4-1...... damn this season hurts!
No, the worst thing about this season is the 0-5 start by the Giants. Who gives a shit about the Jets. Would you have felt better if the Jets and Eagles were 0-5?
HOLY SHIT!!! Why don't we just trade Eli now, so he does t have to put up with this god awful shit offensive line!
I am pretty sure you were being sarcastic. However, if there is anyone out there with thoughts of trading Eli... who would make that trade and who would take Eli's contract?
Eric, yes I'm being sarcastic! The idiocy on this board is redicilous! The fucking guy has no line, no running game and now he has no receivers! but it's his fault! Has he been off, Absofuckingloutley but Please the guy is getting killed out there! He came into this game with a near 70% completion percentage and that's with over 14 drops! Yes they're dink and dunk, but that's wackadoo's offense and Eli is running it. There is virtually no opportunity to throw the deep ball and the receivers aren't getting much separation.
he misses way too many easy throws and can't do much of anything when a play breaks down. he also can't throw downfield with any consistency.
Football games come down to a handful of plays and Eli usually is responsible for the team coming down on the wrong side of those plays.
he misses way too many easy throws and can't do much of anything when a play breaks down. he also can't throw downfield with any consistency.
Football games come down to a handful of plays and Eli usually is responsible for the team coming down on the wrong side of those plays.
I do not share this opinion. I thought Eli played well today, and under considerable pressure and taking some shots. He was suplexed on the fumble.
I am no expert but I do no see it that way.
Yep They picked off Ben 4 times so far today and 2 were pick sixes! We should wish we had the Jag's record now.
It was a stupid draft pick. Just like Nassib was. This team had so many needs both times.
I do not share this opinion. I thought Eli played well today, and under considerable pressure and taking some shots. He was suplexed on the fumble.
He missed a bunch of deep throws in the first half, including several of the few times Odell has been open on a deep pass this season (and not double covered). He threw inaccurately to Marshall down the sideline (despite Brandon making a miraculous catch). He threw inaccurately to Engram down the sideline.
Eli was solid in the second half, but he was one of several main reasons they trailed at the half.
but there were many other just horrible decisions/throws today that helped get us another L.
so we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
This team has no direction on offense how many slants and
dumpoffs can a team run .
Then they take the only Rb that gave them a spark sits on the
bench in a desperation drive . The under use of the TE's makes zero sense and our #1 pick had zero catches today
now they have beaten OBJ to a pulp trying to make next to
impossible plays was it only fitting that he got injured .
The writing has been on the wall for the past 21 games .
He does not inspire anyone with his crap attitude and not
taking responsibility . I pray we lose every game and fire
Reece at the bye . then clean house at the end of the season
I agree. We supposedly have 2 good TEs now yet MacAdoo doesn't know how to use them. But he really doesn't know how to use any of the talent efficiently on this team. Too bad. He might have been a good HC if 5 years as an assistant but he just is not ready for this job.
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Eli is not the only problem on this team... but a QB who is accurate and mobile would really help this team, and Eli is neither.
he misses way too many easy throws and can't do much of anything when a play breaks down. he also can't throw downfield with any consistency.
Football games come down to a handful of plays and Eli usually is responsible for the team coming down on the wrong side of those plays.
I do not share this opinion. I thought Eli played well today, and under considerable pressure and taking some shots. He was suplexed on the fumble.
Come on man. Eli overthrew guys. He threw behind guys. He seen pressure that wasn't there and he stepped into pressure that he didn't need to. Eli played terribly. It's amazing the low bar that we've set for Eli. If he makes a couple of great throws, all is good!
And before all the Eli apologists go crazy, Eli was far from the biggest problem again today. But he did not play well.
Good question!
McAdoo needs to be a better Head Coach. I don’t think he’s doing a very good job at all. Team has no spirit or identity. No physicality, no heavy- handed ness.
I don’t know where to start! I think the Giants have to blow this whole thing up, starting at the top with GM, Head Coach, staff and players. There are some decent pieces on the team, however there needs to be more and players need to play better fundamentally. I just don’t feel like this team is going to win a game.
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Eli is not the only problem on this team... but a QB who is accurate and mobile would really help this team, and Eli is neither.
he misses way too many easy throws and can't do much of anything when a play breaks down. he also can't throw downfield with any consistency.
Football games come down to a handful of plays and Eli usually is responsible for the team coming down on the wrong side of those plays.
I do not share this opinion. I thought Eli played well today, and under considerable pressure and taking some shots. He was suplexed on the fumble.
Come on man. Eli overthrew guys. He threw behind guys. He seen pressure that wasn't there and he stepped into pressure that he didn't need to. Eli played terribly. It's amazing the low bar that we've set for Eli. If he makes a couple of great throws, all is good!
And before all the Eli apologists go crazy, Eli was far from the biggest problem again today. But he did not play well.
Agreed.
Only for the Giants.
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And worst part is no one will be held accountable for this disaster. GM Head Coach, scouts, front office personnel will all come back.
Jerry will walk the plank.
yes need a new GM to retain the big mans brother
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Pass a new rule that you cannot throw to your tightends? Engrams had only FOUR targets in the whole game!!
Only for the Giants.
That's complaining just to complain.
The receivers were more consistently open than they've been all season. Darkwa and Gallman were shredding the Chargers. Then at the end, Engram wasn't even playing his regular position. If Eli hits some of those deep throws in the first half, no one is complaining at all.
Bullshit. He was on his back most of the day because he's playing behind a high school quality o-line or worse!
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Eli is not the only problem on this team... but a QB who is accurate and mobile would really help this team, and Eli is neither.
he misses way too many easy throws and can't do much of anything when a play breaks down. he also can't throw downfield with any consistency.
Football games come down to a handful of plays and Eli usually is responsible for the team coming down on the wrong side of those plays.
I do not share this opinion. I thought Eli played well today, and under considerable pressure and taking some shots. He was suplexed on the fumble.
Come on man. Eli overthrew guys. He threw behind guys. He seen pressure that wasn't there and he stepped into pressure that he didn't need to. Eli played terribly. It's amazing the low bar that we've set for Eli. If he makes a couple of great throws, all is good!
And before all the Eli apologists go crazy, Eli was far from the biggest problem again today. But he did not play well.
Well, I did not say he was perfect. But, he was under pressure the whole game and he hit some big time throws. As far as stepping into pressure, I thought he moved well in the pocket at times and the "stepping" into pressure was often him moving from where the original pressure was coming from only to move into another rusher because the line kinda sucks.
Overall the Giants are bad team and Eli is caught up in all of that. But, he seems very far down the list of problems today.
Today did suck though, one of the worst days I can remember for the G-men.
Also, on the game thread and elsewhere many claim Eli throws helped the injuries along. Well, those are fluke injuries. The slant to Beckham was a bit high, but he leaves his feet all the time regardless. You would think Eli was the most inaccurate passer in the NFL and when I watch other games and compare QB's to Eli I do not see that at all.
what was much more obvious and problematic was his inability to escape any of that pressure, but more than that... were the absolute mis throws (high, long, before the receiver was ready) he made all day long.
he set up both SS and OBJ's injury plays with his inaccurate throws, and was missing wide open RB's in the flat all afternoon...never mind the long throws he missed in the 1st half that may have changed the complexion of the game.
How did defense get this bad in one year?
Need a couple WR's signed this week.
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Bullshit. He was on his back most of the day because he's playing behind a high school quality o-line or worse!
HOLY SHIT!!! Why don't we just trade Eli now, so he does t have to put up with this god awful shit offensive line! and we don't have to listen to all this Eli is the fucking problem with this team!! Give me a fucking break! The guy is getting killed out there, and he was pretty mobile out there when he could run for his life!!!
And so we might be looking at Lewis as the #1 next week! Wow wtf!
And so we might be looking at Lewis as the #1 next week! Wow wtf!
It will be good to see what Lewis can do when a DC is paying attention to him in a lineup and game prep. Right now, he looks good, but is he like a Beasley and nobody pays attention until he is unaccounted for and burns your ass.
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Good question!
I've been waiting for the seam pass to the TE all year. That's all we heard about. I really don't know, because I don't get to see every game. How many times have we actually run that play?
HOLY SHIT!!! Why don't we just trade Eli now, so he does t have to put up with this god awful shit offensive line!
I am pretty sure you were being sarcastic. However, if there is anyone out there with thoughts of trading Eli... who would make that trade and who would take Eli's contract?
No, the worst thing about this season is the 0-5 start by the Giants. Who gives a shit about the Jets. Would you have felt better if the Jets and Eagles were 0-5?
Harris has a fractured foot. Marshall a sprained ankle.
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Jets are 3-2? and the Eagles are 4-1...... damn this season hurts!
No, the worst thing about this season is the 0-5 start by the Giants. Who gives a shit about the Jets. Would you have felt better if the Jets and Eagles were 0-5?
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HOLY SHIT!!! Why don't we just trade Eli now, so he does t have to put up with this god awful shit offensive line!
I am pretty sure you were being sarcastic. However, if there is anyone out there with thoughts of trading Eli... who would make that trade and who would take Eli's contract?
Eric, yes I'm being sarcastic! The idiocy on this board is redicilous! The fucking guy has no line, no running game and now he has no receivers! but it's his fault! Has he been off, Absofuckingloutley but Please the guy is getting killed out there! He came into this game with a near 70% completion percentage and that's with over 14 drops! Yes they're dink and dunk, but that's wackadoo's offense and Eli is running it. There is virtually no opportunity to throw the deep ball and the receivers aren't getting much separation.
He added to his moronic offsides penalties total.