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Is Adam Schefter right?

Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2017 4:57 pm
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Outside of Joe Pisarcikís fumble, and even including it, has there ever been a worse regular-season day in Giantsí history?
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Tommy Maddox 0.00, three picks vs. Eagles.  
Boy Cord : 10/8/2017 5:05 pm : link
That was bad.
.  
Danny Kanell : 10/8/2017 5:06 pm : link
Itís rock bottom today but thereís a light at the end of the tunnel because with OBJ out, we are definitely picking top 3, maybe first overall.
It's right up there .  
Bluesbreaker : 10/8/2017 5:07 pm : link
It exposed everything about how this team was poorly constructed and that he does not get the most out of his
players . it's a sad day 6 years of Eli's career down the
fucking shitter that's what irks me the most .
Eli deserves better we should have got two more Lombardi's
with him IMO .
with what was expected  
sundayatone : 10/8/2017 5:07 pm : link
pretty close
1988 loss to the Jets  
Matt in SGS : 10/8/2017 5:08 pm : link
that Giants team could have won the Super Bowl because the season was wide open. This loss put the nail in the coffin of a season that had slipped away.
my response to the question  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/8/2017 5:09 pm : link
is that the Giants were a pretty bad team before the injuries -- losing Odell is just icing on the whole cake of bad
Schefter's question is ill-posed  
BlackLight : 10/8/2017 5:10 pm : link
the Pisarcik fumble game is probably the most important game in the history of the team. Anyone who would have traded a loss for a win that day either isn't a Giants fan, or doesn't know what they're talking about.
Not even close  
RobCarpenter : 10/8/2017 5:10 pm : link
To the worst day. Just take your pick of Eagles losses:

Pisarchik fumble
Dodge kicking to Jackson
Plax shoots himself, Giants lose in 2009 Playoffs

The 2017 Giants will be lucky to win a game.

RE: 1988 loss to the Jets  
Toastt34 : 10/8/2017 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13636670 Matt in SGS said:
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that Giants team could have won the Super Bowl because the season was wide open. This loss put the nail in the coffin of a season that had slipped away.

+1 Al Toon. For everything Matt said. 2010 Eagles game probably #2.
RE: Not even close  
RobCarpenter : 10/8/2017 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13636691 RobCarpenter said:
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To the worst day. Just take your pick of Eagles losses:

Pisarchik fumble
Dodge kicking to Jackson
Plax shoots himself, Giants lose in 2009 Playoffs

The 2017 Giants will be lucky to win a game.


Sorry, he said regular season..
If Beckham is never the same again,  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/8/2017 5:12 pm : link
it absolutely is.
Losing the Super Bowl hurt way more than this  
BlackLight : 10/8/2017 5:12 pm : link
My top concern right now is that a poor offensive showing the rest of the way might convince ownership or Reese that it's time to move on from Eli.
I remember what the 70s felt like.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/8/2017 5:16 pm : link
This is bad in a different way. In those years it was almost always pretty apparent that the team wasn't good. The D was often very good, but offense just didn't have players.

This team has players, it had legitimate reason to think it could compete at a high level. And it's not just the O-line that sunk them. The D has been crummy, too.

Today might be the most disappointing day. Can't say if it's the worst.
Injury -wise  
old man : 10/8/2017 5:17 pm : link
Yes.
But the JP fumble was the worst,Trey Junkin a distant 2nd, 2010 Philly 3rd.
But we are rapidly closing in on those teams in the mid 60's that featured Olympic track starts Henry Carr and Clarence Childs as our DBs.
The game we lost Cruz in  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/8/2017 5:18 pm : link
was pretty bad
Worst day for Macadoo  
spike : 10/8/2017 5:19 pm : link
His job is over i n January
No he's wrong as per usual...  
JCin332 : 10/8/2017 5:19 pm : link
...
RE: Worst day for Macadoo  
BlackLight : 10/8/2017 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13636750 spike said:
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His job is over i n January


I wouldn't count on it.
Flipper Anderson comes to mind  
steve in ky : 10/8/2017 5:20 pm : link
.
Wildcard loss to SF was bad.  
OdellBeckhamJr : 10/8/2017 5:21 pm : link
.
The Trey Junkin game  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/8/2017 5:21 pm : link
was pretty bad too
.  
arcarsenal : 10/8/2017 5:27 pm : link
Why do people keep referencing the SF game?

The tweet is about regular season losses.
I don't think  
BigBlueShock : 10/8/2017 5:30 pm : link
"Regular season game" means what many of you think it does
RE: I don't think  
RobCarpenter : 10/8/2017 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13636836 BigBlueShock said:
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"Regular season game" means what many of you think it does


Inconceivable!!
With each passing game, my passion as a fan of this team....  
Crispino : 10/8/2017 5:37 pm : link
is slipping away. I went out to lunch with my wife during the game, something in past years that would have been unthinkable. I just can't muster any enthusiasm for watching a poorly coached, undisciplined, stupid collection of inept football players fucking up in every way you
can imagine. The product stinks. It makes you realize what smoke and mirrors accounted for last season.
Feeling the same way about subsiding passion.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/8/2017 5:41 pm : link
But I wonder how much of that has to do with getting older and having other things on my mind. It'd be nice to have football Sundays be a fun diversion, but they're not.
RE: I don't think  
steve in ky : 10/8/2017 5:42 pm : link
In comment 13636836 BigBlueShock said:
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"Regular season game" means what many of you think it does


LOL, good catch, I missed the regular season part of it as well.
Before I was pissed  
well...bye TC : 10/8/2017 5:43 pm : link
now Im just bummed. The injuries...
Only Pissrcik fumble caused org changes, I think.  
Ivan15 : 10/8/2017 6:33 pm : link
Will this loss have the same effect?
0-7  
Howyadoin : 10/8/2017 6:51 pm : link
Going into the bye week
The game against Green Bay  
redwhiteandbigblue : 10/8/2017 7:02 pm : link
When LT ruptured his Achilles. The crowd was dead silent for the rest of the game-shellshocked.Will never forget how quiet the stadium became.
We lost 4 Wr's, at least 2 with broken ankles  
PatersonPlank : 10/8/2017 7:10 pm : link
Maybe all 4 for the season.

This is right there with the Eagles D Jackson collapse. This season is now screwed. However I don't think its as catastrophic as The Fumble.
RE: There have been plenty of horrendous losses  
EricJ : 10/8/2017 7:11 pm : link
In comment 13636583 David B. said:
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Trey Junkin comes to mind.

This loss was awful for a lot of reasons, but it was an 0-4 team going nowhere.


The Trey Junkin thing always bothered me. Not because if his snap but because the consensus to blame him. We signed the fucking guy out of retirement to come in and snap. Shame on us for leaving it up to a guy who literally got up off of the couch to snap the ball. Maybe we should have done more that game to make sure that one bad snap did not beat us.
RE: Only Pissrcik fumble caused org changes, I think.  
EricJ : 10/8/2017 7:12 pm : link
In comment 13637107 Ivan15 said:
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Will this loss have the same effect?


I hope so. Last season was fools gold. The results of a defense that was playing at unsustainable levels. Masking the stink of an offense that was ranked 26th....and that ranking the benefit of a couple of individual efforts by OBJ
We won a world title 6 years ago  
Essex : 10/8/2017 7:54 pm : link
we were in the playoffs last year, when the fumble happened we hadn't won a title in over two decades and hadn't made the playoffs in over a decade. And, while we need organizational changes, this is nothing like those times. shefter is good at getting people to give us information ten seconds before someone else, he is good at stealing hospital records; his analysis or opinion is about just as relevant or valuable as any poster here
the fumble  
micky : 10/8/2017 8:01 pm : link
and deshaun fucking Jackson in 2010

02 playoff game vs  
chopperhatch : 10/8/2017 8:01 pm : link
9ers was it for me. I had never been punched in the gut like that before in my life.
RE: RE: I don't think  
chopperhatch : 10/8/2017 8:02 pm : link
In comment 13636903 steve in ky said:
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In comment 13636836 BigBlueShock said:


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"Regular season game" means what many of you think it does



LOL, good catch, I missed the regular season part of it as well.



Oh, I missed that too. Lol
People are missing the meaning of the Fumble  
Essex : 10/8/2017 8:34 pm : link
It was not a heartbreaking moment, it was the final straw in an unbearable 15 yearís with a warring and incompetent leadership that was basically leaving us ruderless. Trey Junkin and Desean Jackson were horrific moments, but I looked forward to redemption in 2003 and the GB game in 2010. When Joe P fumbled the people walking to their cars in the parking lot and turning off their TVs were just fed up with a generation of futility. Today was terrible, but I think this organization with the right changes could compete next year and I have not gone years without any success. It is a much different situation. We will have some decisions to make as an organization, rebuild with a new QB, draft a LT (if there one available that is NFL ready-a rarity) and try to squeeze two more years with Eli. But we have pieces to play with whatever direction we goówe have options. In 1978 that was not the situation confronting us. This is more like 2003, we have pieces, itís just a decision of where we go with it.
Bumbling fools  
Jimmy Googs : 10/8/2017 8:36 pm : link
To be a true Giant fan is tough.

You gotta' want it man....
...  
yankees78 : 10/8/2017 8:39 pm : link
Today was pretty fucking bad
Today is one of the all time low points  
LatHarv83 : 10/8/2017 8:45 pm : link
You have to seperate losses into different categories. Every low has its own distinct characteristics. When the losses come with more at stake they tend to hurt more because you had more to lose and were more invested. But the dull pain of today that comes with losing to a fellow 0-4 team flying across the country and the absence of surprise/shock that even comes with that in our current state.... in addition to having our WR corps completely wiped out (including a major injury suffered by our franchise player) brings with it a certain type of pain. The further realization of just how far away this team is from competing in its current state and the unsettled questions that lay ahead. We will end this season having gone to the playoffs 1 time in 6 seasons with no playoff wins, a 37 year old QB, unknown at head coach and a GM with an increasingly spotty track record. The state of the franchise right now is as low as Iíve seen it personally. That doesnít mean quick fixes donít exist but they donít come easy.
RE: Bumbling fools  
Essex : 10/8/2017 8:46 pm : link
In comment 13637567 Jimmy Googs said:
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To be a true Giant fan is tough.

You gotta' want it man....


Really??
We won three super bowl as an underdog. Won three Super Bowls within last two minutes of the game. Those three close Super Bowls were all preceded by championship games where we won on the last play. We have won four Super Bowls total. I think we have been very fortunate.
We have been fortunate and we have been not  
Jimmy Googs : 10/8/2017 8:48 pm : link
Like I said, you gotta want it...
Who cares what Adam Schefter thinks. He wasnít even around back then.  
joe48 : 10/8/2017 8:59 pm : link
This season was already done. Just looking for clicks which he is getting here.
RE: Losing the Super Bowl hurt way more than this  
lecky : 10/9/2017 7:37 am : link
In comment 13636710 BlackLight said:
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My top concern right now is that a poor offensive showing the rest of the way might convince ownership or Reese that it's time to move on from Eli.


Getting to the superbowl means we had a great season. This is much worse
Nah...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/9/2017 7:44 am : link
Eagles 2010 was much, much worse.

That team could have won a title.

This team just sucks.
No way...  
aimrocky : 10/9/2017 8:27 am : link
The injuries add to the sting, but I went numb to this team after the Philly loss. The past two losses were reassurances that this team stinks.
Frankly,  
NNJ Tom : 10/9/2017 10:34 am : link
I'm waiting for Sage Steele to tell me what to think...
I distinctly remember the 1966  
Bubba : 10/9/2017 11:06 am : link
season. Went 6-0 in preseason. High expectations followed. Won first game tied second lost all remaining 12.
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