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Jerry Reese.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/8/2017 4:59 pm
Please explain to me he keeps his job.
You can't fire McAdoo and keep Reese  
UberAlias : 10/8/2017 5:01 pm : link
If you make a change, which is obviously needed, you have to clean house.
He  
AcidTest : 10/8/2017 5:02 pm : link
and Ross should be fired, but my guess is both are making the picks next season.
They did TC in, obviously that was the wrong move  
SHO'NUFF : 10/8/2017 5:03 pm : link
It has to be Reese this time.
He needs to go  
rocco8112 : 10/8/2017 5:03 pm : link
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supreme court rules  
sundayatone : 10/8/2017 5:03 pm : link
mara is an like lifetime appointments.
They MUST Clean House  
blueblood : 10/8/2017 5:03 pm : link
im talking GM. Head Coach.. Coordinators.. Asst Coaches.. and they REALLY need to take a total look at the scouting department.. It probably needs a serious overhaul and replacement of some people.
Reese is a figure head  
Vanzetti : 10/8/2017 5:04 pm : link
The Maras pull the strings. So firing Reese will not improve matters unless they hire a GM with autonomy like they did with GY
Needs to go  
jeff57 : 10/8/2017 5:04 pm : link
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Because they don't fire GMs and he hasn't even had his own  
Devon : 10/8/2017 5:05 pm : link
franchise QB yet.

He's going to be here at least through the next HC, even if McAdoo sticks around for awhile.

Doesn't mean it's right, but that's our fate. He's got one of the most secure jobs in the NFL, no matter what happens this season.
RE: supreme court rules  
sundayatone : 10/8/2017 5:05 pm : link
In comment 13636626 sundayatone said:
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mara likes lifetime appointments.
he has to go  
Ned In Atlanta : 10/8/2017 5:05 pm : link
it's obvious the 2016 spending spree was a mirage. He sucks at drafting. He's neglected the offensive line for years. Him and Mcadoo need to go. I know the Maras are very loyal but if this isn't a good reason for a clean slate i dont know what is
Wonít happen  
Unemployable : 10/8/2017 5:05 pm : link
Mara is terrified of change. Need to blow it all up but he will never do it.
Reese has blown 2 top 10 picks  
UberAlias : 10/8/2017 5:07 pm : link
A head coach, and failed to do anything to address the OLine.

Whoever is GM next year will get a crack at all 3 of the above. Reese does not deserve a do over. McAdoo was hired on his watch. If McAdoo goes, Reese needs to go too.
RE: Because they don't fire GMs and he hasn't even had his own  
TommyWiseau : 10/8/2017 5:08 pm : link
In comment 13636643 Devon said:
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franchise QB yet.

He's going to be here at least through the next HC, even if McAdoo sticks around for awhile.

Doesn't mean it's right, but that's our fate. He's got one of the most secure jobs in the NFL, no matter what happens this season.


He hasn't had his own franchise QB yet? He worked for the Giants the year Eli got drafted and was one of Eli's biggest supporters along with Accorsi in the front office.
There will be a major toilet flushing  
cjohn2979 : 10/8/2017 5:09 pm : link
at the end of the season. Reese, McAdoo and the entire coaching staff will be fired. No doubt a bunch of scouts will also be fired. It will be like 1978. Fire everyone and start over. A lot of players will also go. 1978 was one of the best things that ever happened to the Giants so I look forward to the flushing.
Need to fire Chris Mara, too  
SHO'NUFF : 10/8/2017 5:10 pm : link
but that won't happen. This is the result of nepotism.
no more incremental fixes  
bluepepper : 10/8/2017 5:10 pm : link
been doing that for 5 years. Time to clean everybody out.

2013-the OC
2014-the DC
2015-the HC
2016-reprieve
2017-has to be GM and most of FOand HC and whole coaching staff

Can't get rid of the Mara's but maybe give Chris a job on the business side picking out color rush uniforms and running breast cancer awareness month
He should've went with TC.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/8/2017 5:10 pm : link
Nothing is fixed.
.  
Danny Kanell : 10/8/2017 5:11 pm : link
Everything needs to be blown up. The coach, GM, probably QB and maybe even the star WR. Blow it all up and start over. This offseason will be a rare opportunity to start over picking at the top of a potentially big time QB draft.
No longer have faith in Reese  
Pascal4554 : 10/8/2017 5:14 pm : link
Change is needed. Like McAdoo but starting to think he is in over his head and was promoted to head coach too quickly.
Despite the naysayers  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/8/2017 5:20 pm : link
If this goes on, they will be replacing Reese and McAdoo. It was pretty clear that Reese was on a short leash when they hired McAdoo.
RE: .  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/8/2017 5:30 pm : link
In comment 13636698 Danny Kanell said:
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Everything needs to be blown up. The coach, GM, probably QB and maybe even the star WR. Blow it all up and start over. This offseason will be a rare opportunity to start over picking at the top of a potentially big time QB draft.


Ding ding. Blow it all up.
RE: .  
dpinzow : 10/8/2017 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13636698 Danny Kanell said:
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Everything needs to be blown up. The coach, GM, probably QB and maybe even the star WR. Blow it all up and start over. This offseason will be a rare opportunity to start over picking at the top of a potentially big time QB draft.


Exactly. Reese screwed up the last 6 years of Eli's career. How does he get the right to screw up another QB pick and fail to build a team around said future QB
RE: .  
RobCarpenter : 10/8/2017 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13636698 Danny Kanell said:
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Everything needs to be blown up. The coach, GM, probably QB and maybe even the star WR. Blow it all up and start over. This offseason will be a rare opportunity to start over picking at the top of a potentially big time QB draft.


Agree, but my fear is Chris Mara as GM.
Mara will probably do  
mdc1 : 10/8/2017 5:36 pm : link
a flyover of the stadium from his suite regarding attendance and determine if he can postpone till the end of the season, the equivalent of older Walmart CEO flying over Walmart parking lots to check attendance. Butts not in seats = no operational spend. If folks are sitting and buying he just needs some lame excuse about the plan moving forward.
RE: Reese is a figure head  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/8/2017 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13636630 Vanzetti said:
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The Maras pull the strings. So firing Reese will not improve matters unless they hire a GM with autonomy like they did with GY


This in part. Reese does have a lot of power in the draft, but McAdoo was all ownership. That they fell in love w McAdoo is so sad and pathetic that I have my doubts that they have any idea what to do other than keep inoet people in their jobs and expect the fans to keep swallowing shitty football.

I hated the McAdoo hire. Just like I hated firing Gilbride. Then Fewell. Than TC. They've gone back to the pre George Young days. Not a good thing at all

Jerry Reese should play the lottery  
Sarcastic Sam : 10/8/2017 5:47 pm : link
July, 2013: Puts up a Superbowl clock in the Giants locker room.

Early December, 2013: Takes down Superbowl clock.
...
August, 2015: "I think we'll be really good defensively. I think we're going to surprise people."

May, 2016: $200mill spent on a new defense
...
Jan 2016: "Have you researched that? Do you know that for a fact?. OK, until you know that for a fact, then I don't think you should say that. That's just my opinion. If you know that for a fact, then you can tell me that. But give me the facts on that."
...
Hopefully Jerry's next bold statement will be, "so where's the unemployment line?"

Three more weeks  
Reb8thVA : 10/8/2017 6:05 pm : link
Until the jack ass needs to climb out from under his rock and explain to us how this is all part of his master plan.
As I said before  
idiotsavant : 10/8/2017 6:06 pm : link
getting a different GM doesn't have to be an indictment of the GM, it may be simply a way to find a different point of emphasis.

Jerry Reeses' point of emphasis, or version of football has been clear for the duration of his tenure, good and bad.

The blind spots, the oversights, very, very obvious.

Its in personel, drafting, fee agency, super clearly at this point, the list is too long to repeat here, skinny guys as opposed to wide interior linesmen year after year after year, but the problems are twofold.

1. Mara simply failed to reign Jerry in or redirect him. Either Chris doesn't get it, or he got hornswaggled.

2. Apparent continued efforts to 'make the guys we wanted to work get work' (Flowers, Perkins, Sintim, Wilson, yada yada yada.) as opposed to letting coordinators coordinate.

3. Macadoo, apparently in the good graces of Jerry, following the above gets away with reverting to form, even after the new stuff was working.

Been saying it since Fassel. If you don't build the line, WR injuries result from lack of variety in route tree and lack of play action ...lack of WRs getting free on change ups.

Its an awful indictment of the system to now have neither style A nor style B.
Does Gettlemen have a job? Itís always  
Simms11 : 10/8/2017 6:34 pm : link
Possible that they could bring him back. Iím not sure he did a great job in Carolina, but his ties to the org would give him a huge shot IMO.
Neither will be fired  
Matt M. : 10/8/2017 6:41 pm : link
They will cite the injuries as the reason.
I never thought they would  
Rick5 : 10/8/2017 6:44 pm : link
fire Tom Coughlin. I thought they would let him ride out the last few years with Eli. Given what happened to TC, nothing would surprise me. The wheels seem like they are falling off now. If Mara had the guts to fire TC, I think a full housecleaning is a possibility if this ends up being a 4-12ish team. If they continue on this putrid path, I would not be shocked if both Reese and BM are gone at the end of the season.
So everyone before the season  
Rflairr : 10/8/2017 11:58 pm : link
Claimed this was the most talented team the Giants have had in yrs. Now itís the GMs fault. Everyone said the Giants had a team that should win the division or even be in then Super Bowl. Now itís the GMs fault? No this is coaching. When every area of the team has regressed, thatís coaching.

Youíre losing to teams less talented than you are. Thatís not the GM. Thatís the coach
The talent level was overrated  
RetroJint : 10/9/2017 6:51 am : link
& last season's record was a fluke. They shouldn't be 0-5. They are so some of the blame is definitely charged to the coaching staff. But the players are getting off too easily. Guys like Collins are not living up to expectations.
Clean house  
spike : 10/9/2017 7:35 am : link
Including Chris Mara
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