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Why didnít we keep running the ball?

PetesHereNow : 10/8/2017 6:10 pm
Up 22-17. Gallman for 7. Pass in flat for loss of two. Sack. Punt.

Up 22-20, Vereen for 3. Pass to Beckham, incomplete, broken ankle for best player. Sack and fumble.

Thatís my major issue with BM. He seemingly has no feel for the game. Stop with the slants over the middle that everyone and their grandparents know when itís coming. Use your halfbacks and tight ends in the passing game. Run the ball when itís working.
Why was Vereen in  
section125 : 10/8/2017 6:12 pm : link
the game after Gallman was tearing up the Chargers and specifically the right side was giving Gallman great big holes..
Probably doesn't have  
bluepepper : 10/8/2017 6:12 pm : link
a plan for what happens when the running game is actually working.
Because you can't get blamed for not being able to scheme a run play  
jlukes : 10/8/2017 6:13 pm : link
if you avoid running the ball

its similar to why they stuck with Perkins so long  
idiotsavant : 10/8/2017 6:16 pm : link
of why they stuck with Flowers so long, or why they let Hart back on the field....did you see the blindness of that sack?

Its like they value "The Plan" or "The Story" more than they value the W/L.

So, that leads back to protecting the top.
It's called complimentary football, dummy.  
B in ALB : 10/8/2017 6:16 pm : link
Read a book for me one time.
aw B  
idiotsavant : 10/8/2017 6:18 pm : link
you know I cant read! ;-)
19 carries for 126 yards today  
Kyle in NY : 10/8/2017 6:20 pm : link
for Gallman and Darkwa, and yet we barely ran them in the 4th when trying to protect a lead. With three WR already out, then another because of that reluctance to run.

Brutal.
The throw to Gallman might've done better than -2 yards  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/8/2017 6:23 pm : link
if Eli didn't almost throw it over his head despite absolutely no pressure. It seems that lack of execution comes into play nearly everytime we complain about McAdoo's play-calling... bad throw by Eli, drop by a receiver, o-line shits it's pants. And yeah, we could've just run the ball again.

That's what happens with bad teams.
RE: The throw to Gallman might've done better than -2 yards  
PetesHereNow : 10/8/2017 6:32 pm : link
In comment 13637063 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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if Eli didn't almost throw it over his head despite absolutely no pressure. It seems that lack of execution comes into play nearly everytime we complain about McAdoo's play-calling... bad throw by Eli, drop by a receiver, o-line shits it's pants. And yeah, we could've just run the ball again.

That's what happens with bad teams.


Granted it was high but it looked to be like the Charger defender would have been there to break it up or stop him for a minimal gain. I thought watching on tv live that Eli intentionally threw it high trying to avoid an interception. Iíd love to see it again.
RE: It's called complimentary football, dummy.  
jeff57 : 10/8/2017 6:33 pm : link
In comment 13637040 B in ALB said:
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Read a book for me one time.


Why, you can't read on your own?
He went away from the run  
jeff57 : 10/8/2017 6:35 pm : link
at times after they had been running well. Then he runs Vereen instead of Gallman. Some puzzling moves.
RE: RE: The throw to Gallman might've done better than -2 yards  
section125 : 10/8/2017 6:35 pm : link
In comment 13637099 PetesHereNow said:
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In comment 13637063 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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if Eli didn't almost throw it over his head despite absolutely no pressure. It seems that lack of execution comes into play nearly everytime we complain about McAdoo's play-calling... bad throw by Eli, drop by a receiver, o-line shits it's pants. And yeah, we could've just run the ball again.

That's what happens with bad teams.



Granted it was high but it looked to be like the Charger defender would have been there to break it up or stop him for a minimal gain. I thought watching on tv live that Eli intentionally threw it high trying to avoid an interception. Iíd love to see it again.


Nah, had he thrown the ball correctly Gallman likely gains some yardage and has a chance to break a tackle instead of coming down off balance with no chance to make a move.
Heh, I wish I could instantly recall all the folks who were clamoring  
widmerseyebrow : 10/8/2017 6:36 pm : link
For this many slant patterns all because they thought Reuben Randall's suck had more to do with the offense that netted us two super bowls than, you know, Reuben Randall being shitty.
RE: RE: The throw to Gallman might've done better than -2 yards  
Ira : 10/8/2017 6:38 pm : link
In comment 13637099 PetesHereNow said:
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In comment 13637063 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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if Eli didn't almost throw it over his head despite absolutely no pressure. It seems that lack of execution comes into play nearly everytime we complain about McAdoo's play-calling... bad throw by Eli, drop by a receiver, o-line shits it's pants. And yeah, we could've just run the ball again.

That's what happens with bad teams.



Granted it was high but it looked to be like the Charger defender would have been there to break it up or stop him for a minimal gain. I thought watching on tv live that Eli intentionally threw it high trying to avoid an interception. Iíd love to see it again.


That's the way it looked to me.
Because McAdoo sucks  
Matt M. : 10/8/2017 6:40 pm : link
The worst part is that he will probably be given a pass on the rest of the season because of the injuries. So, we are probably looking at another shitty season next year.
it's like "hm, 12P worked, hm..13P worked"  
idiotsavant : 10/8/2017 6:40 pm : link
"hm, Gallman works"

"Oh well, lets go back to 11P, and shotgun with Jerrys Kids, cuz, you know, Jerry is the boss, so...you know, job security and all....and we have a system...so..."
RE: Heh, I wish I could instantly recall all the folks who were clamoring  
PetesHereNow : 10/8/2017 6:40 pm : link
In comment 13637119 widmerseyebrow said:
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For this many slant patterns all because they thought Reuben Randall's suck had more to do with the offense that netted us two super bowls than, you know, Reuben Randall being shitty.


Lol. For all the hate Gilbride got on here, when he knew his run game was working, he kept pounding away.
He put vereen in because of experience in the 2 minute drill  
gtt350 : 10/8/2017 6:41 pm : link
I would have stayed with the hot back imho
RE: He put vereen in because of experience in the 2 minute drill  
PetesHereNow : 10/8/2017 6:43 pm : link
In comment 13637146 gtt350 said:
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I would have stayed with the hot back imho


I understand Vereen in down 27-22. Donít understand it up 22-20
RE: RE: Heh, I wish I could instantly recall all the folks who were clamoring  
Matt M. : 10/8/2017 6:45 pm : link
In comment 13637143 PetesHereNow said:
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For this many slant patterns all because they thought Reuben Randall's suck had more to do with the offense that netted us two super bowls than, you know, Reuben Randall being shitty.



Lol. For all the hate Gilbride got on here, when he knew his run game was working, he kept pounding away.
Gilbride's offense only failed when their OL went to shit. So, instead of building a strong OL they hired an OC to implement the WCO. It was very good for 2 years, but he runs a different offense now that he is HC. There was nothing wrong with Gilbride's offense and this QB running it, as long as they had some semblance of a professional OL.
Why  
blueblood'11 : 10/8/2017 6:47 pm : link
Because McAdoo is a dope.
RE: RE: RE: Heh, I wish I could instantly recall all the folks who were clamoring  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/8/2017 6:48 pm : link
In comment 13637168 Matt M. said:
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So, instead of building a strong OL they hired an OC to implement the WCO. It was very good for 2 years, but he runs a different offense now that he is HC.


This is one thing I don't get at all about McAdoo. As OC, the offense had numerous inventive ways to get Odell the ball. As HC, everything became as vanilla as humanly possible.
You give Coughlin and Gilbride a tough OL and a defense worth a damn.  
PetesHereNow : 10/8/2017 6:50 pm : link
And weíre still winning games. They fired them both because the almighty Jerrel Jernigan was underutilized and they made a huge deal about Beckham freaking out on Norman in a game we lost to the eventual NFC champs after being down 35-7.
Agreed  
ChaChing : 10/8/2017 7:06 pm : link
Tho I recall feeling the same way at various times in the TC / KG era

Today the one thing we could count on were positive if not chunk runs but we repeatedly went pass - sometimes 3 straight going 3 and out, sometimes 2 straight after a 5 yd run on 1st, and w/ solid YPC (Darkwa 8-69 & a TD) vs a known weak run Charger D

Add in our WR injuries & their strong pass rush, I was scratching my head all game as well
Matt M with the winner  
Bluesbreaker : 10/8/2017 8:24 pm : link
Still say this offense does not fit Eli's skills period .
He has shined with a decent run game and the ability to
throw downfield .
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