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BrettNYG10 : 10/8/2017 6:48 pm
#lgr
You again!?  
B in ALB : 10/8/2017 6:49 pm : link
Holy ass hairs you suck.
Fuck sports  
redbeard : 10/8/2017 6:56 pm : link
.....
Brendan Smith is sitting.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/8/2017 7:01 pm : link
Not sure if he's hurt or benched.
.  
arcarsenal : 10/8/2017 7:01 pm : link
LOL, I forgot that today can still get worse!
Not sure if I can take much more of the Giants, Yanks, and Rangers  
NYerInMA : 10/8/2017 7:02 pm : link
all three are pretty brutal at the moment.
Please Lord ...  
Stufftherun : 10/8/2017 7:13 pm : link
give us something, anything, before the weekend's over!
Rangers get pinned in their own end  
NYerInMA : 10/8/2017 7:20 pm : link
Looks like a goal for the Habs, though the Rangers are challenging.
I知 know I知 going to get killed here  
bluesince56 : 10/8/2017 7:22 pm : link
But Hank is getting old and slow.
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BrettNYG10 : 10/8/2017 7:24 pm : link
Going 11 F/7 D is silly after a back-to-back - especially after Chytil only got five minutes last night.

You should play the highly skilled young guys earlier in the season when defensive structures are soft and skill can shine.

And Kampfer/Holden is an awful pair.
RE: .....  
arcarsenal : 10/8/2017 7:25 pm : link
In comment 13637263 BrettNYG10 said:
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Going 11 F/7 D is silly after a back-to-back - especially after Chytil only got five minutes last night.

You should play the highly skilled young guys earlier in the season when defensive structures are soft and skill can shine.

And Kampfer/Holden is an awful pair.


Agreed. Terrible.
Refs seem really slow to blow the puck dead for Henrik  
NYerInMA : 10/8/2017 7:25 pm : link
and he's not happy about it.
Puck goes in off McDonagh  
NYerInMA : 10/8/2017 7:29 pm : link
Dammit.
RE: I知 know I知 going to get killed here  
MetsAreBack : 10/8/2017 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13637257 bluesince56 said:
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But Hank is getting old and slow.



No you're not getting killed. That's an accurate description of the hot mess we've seen so far. What I saw last night up in Toronto wouldn't qualify as AHL level
I'm out to dinner  
MetsAreBack : 10/8/2017 7:50 pm : link
With all these disallowed goals I'm having trouble keeping track - are we actually winning 1-0?
RE: I'm out to dinner  
redbeard : 10/8/2017 8:05 pm : link
In comment 13637380 MetsAreBack said:
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With all these disallowed goals I'm having trouble keeping track - are we actually winning 1-0?


Yeah...Skjei banked it off Weber
RE: I知 know I知 going to get killed here  
B in ALB : 10/8/2017 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13637257 bluesince56 said:
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But Hank is getting old and slow.


Not killed at all.
Z  
B in ALB : 10/8/2017 9:16 pm : link
With a goal. 2-0 rangers.
Wasn't really happy with how they played, but Lundqvist looked  
BrettNYG10 : 10/8/2017 9:41 pm : link
Sharp after looking a bit sloppy in the first. MTL didn't have a lot of great chances after the first, but they dominated possession.

Buchnevich looks really good IMO.
Bucher  
bigbluehoya : 10/8/2017 9:46 pm : link
Looks incredibly more physically ready for the NHL game vs last year. His
perfect end to a crappy weekend  
pjcas18 : 10/8/2017 10:01 pm : link
congrats rangers fans. My only hope is Julien has a short leash. No idea why hiring Therrien/Julien was going to change things, they're the same guy.

two disallowed goals (that I can't really argue with, not always called that way, but the calls were right per the rules) with a team that struggles to generate offense is deflating.

sloppy game by both teams. hate opening with 3 straight on the road. Lucky Price stole 2 in BUF.

Not a proud win  
MetsAreBack : 10/8/2017 11:54 pm : link
But we needed 2 points anyway we could get it and feel good for Hank after he was mocked out of the air canada centre last night.

This time of year it's about getting points and hopefully building towards something later so don't give a shit if puck possession and style points aren't there yet. Just hope coach dipshit hasn't permanently buried Chytil and given kampfen and Holden permanent roles.

Looking forward to Shatty against his old mates Tuesday
RE: perfect end to a crappy weekend  
Jay in Toronto : 10/9/2017 6:44 am : link
In comment 13637915 pjcas18 said:
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congrats rangers fans. My only hope is Julien has a short leash. No idea why hiring Therrien/Julien was going to change things, they're the same guy.

two disallowed goals (that I can't really argue with, not always called that way, but the calls were right per the rules) with a team that struggles to generate offense is deflating.

Classy post
sloppy game by both teams. hate opening with 3 straight on the road. Lucky Price stole 2 in BUF.
RE: perfect end to a crappy weekend  
BrettNYG10 : 10/9/2017 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13637915 pjcas18 said:
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congrats rangers fans. My only hope is Julien has a short leash. No idea why hiring Therrien/Julien was going to change things, they're the same guy.

two disallowed goals (that I can't really argue with, not always called that way, but the calls were right per the rules) with a team that struggles to generate offense is deflating.

sloppy game by both teams. hate opening with 3 straight on the road. Lucky Price stole 2 in BUF.


I think the kicking rule is dumb and should be changed but they applied the rule correctly.

I thought the goalie interference call was iffy because it looked like the MTL skater got pushed into Lundqvist. Apparently it was off-sides anyway.

Did you see AV's challenge in TOR? I'm curious on whether you thought the officials got that right.
RE: RE: perfect end to a crappy weekend  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2017 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13639076 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 13637915 pjcas18 said:


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congrats rangers fans. My only hope is Julien has a short leash. No idea why hiring Therrien/Julien was going to change things, they're the same guy.

two disallowed goals (that I can't really argue with, not always called that way, but the calls were right per the rules) with a team that struggles to generate offense is deflating.

sloppy game by both teams. hate opening with 3 straight on the road. Lucky Price stole 2 in BUF.




I think the kicking rule is dumb and should be changed but they applied the rule correctly.

I thought the goalie interference call was iffy because it looked like the MTL skater got pushed into Lundqvist. Apparently it was off-sides anyway.

Did you see AV's challenge in TOR? I'm curious on whether you thought the officials got that right.


I didn't see the challenge in TOR. Is there a youtube?

And I think the overturned goals were the technically correct calls, but I've seen worse plays allowed as goals for both instances.

I have no issue with the calls or the refs, on an unrelated note I think the notion of "playing the Canadiens" and having sketchy officiating or having to deal with intentional and consistent calls that go against you (the Canadiens opponent) is only alive in the minds of losers in for games in MTL, the officiating is just as bad against MTL as it is for every team and I never use the refs as an excuse.

My main point was a team like MTL that will be offensively challenged all year (with Julien as coach), when you have goals overturned it is deflating, even if they should be overturned.

this  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2017 3:15 pm : link
in for games in MTL

should be

even for games in MTL
Here's the video.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/9/2017 3:17 pm : link
37 second mark shows it.

I agree, I don't think the refs are biased. They just mess up.
NHL.com - ( New Window )
RE: Here's the video.  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2017 3:28 pm : link
In comment 13639404 BrettNYG10 said:
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37 second mark shows it.

I agree, I don't think the refs are biased. They just mess up. NHL.com - ( New Window )


So they're saying he had control of the puck when he entered the zone I guess. I think it's offsides, but your body can cross the blue line before the puck if you have control of the puck. Not sure how they define control, but having the puck in your chest doesn't seem like control to me.

And I hope they never define control for purposes of reviews, I'd rather they eliminate the offsides review entirely.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 10/9/2017 3:33 pm : link
I thought AV was right to challenge - that doesn't look like control to me.

I'd ease up on the offsides rule more generally - have it so that the puck's considered entered into the zone once it touches the blue line.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2017 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13639445 BrettNYG10 said:
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I thought AV was right to challenge - that doesn't look like control to me.

I'd ease up on the offsides rule more generally - have it so that the puck's considered entered into the zone once it touches the blue line.


He was absolutely right to challenge it, especially in that situation (1 goal game). I'd even ask for a league explanation, while the rule is as it is, teams have to at least understand it.
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