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We're Picking in the Top 5... Who Ya Got?

M.S. : 10/8/2017 8:32 pm
QB Sam Darnold?
QB Josh Allen?
QB Josh Rosen?
QB Lamar Jackson?
OT Orlando Brown?

Someone else?

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I’ll take  
Tanker20 : 10/8/2017 8:36 pm : link
Darnold or Rosen and be happy.

If they r not available, go w Barkley.
No  
Eli owns all : 10/8/2017 8:36 pm : link
Allen or Jackson

Qb - darnold or Rossen
Lt - Adams or McGlinchey
Rb - Barkley

Barkley being the least of the top 5
If Giants  
joeinpa : 10/8/2017 8:37 pm : link
Get the chance to take one of those quarterbacks, it would make this season worth it.
Barkley  
lugnut : 10/8/2017 8:38 pm : link
Can we at least give the highly regarded 3rd Rd pick a chance before we go stampeding for the QBs?
Lamar Jackson  
RDJR : 10/8/2017 8:39 pm : link
Please.
We obviously neee OLine help  
Josiah31 : 10/8/2017 8:39 pm : link
But it’s hard to pass up on a game changer. We already drafted a QB. Need to play Webb some to see what we have. If he looks decent, I’d take Barkey first Pick.
Giants way would be to go with Rosen or darnold  
hassan : 10/8/2017 8:40 pm : link
Hope they would go Lamar Jackson though.
RE: Barkley  
Devon : 10/8/2017 8:41 pm : link
In comment 13637577 lugnut said:
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Can we at least give the highly regarded 3rd Rd pick a chance before we go stampeding for the QBs?


Highly regarded by...?

No one on this board is probably higher on Saquon Barkley than I am, but they're not going to take him. This is their shot to take the next franchise QB and, with how they operate and how QB is next up on the chopping block of blame, that's where they'll almost certainly go.
REESE WIILL  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/8/2017 8:41 pm : link
will fuck it up
I'd go with Rosen  
Jay on the Island : 10/8/2017 8:41 pm : link
and then Allen in that order.
RB careers are so ahort  
markky : 10/8/2017 8:42 pm : link
Give me a QB or tackle. Someone who will be here for a decade plus
When can u get the next  
spike : 10/8/2017 8:42 pm : link
Aaron rodgers or even Andrew Luck, you do it even if u have a Webb
Barkley is a generational player like Odell  
Earl the goat : 10/8/2017 8:44 pm : link
I'd take him first

Still need to see what Davis Webb has before taking a QB
Take Saquon and give him no OLine to block for him  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/8/2017 8:47 pm : link
That's Reese.
ideally  
mphbullet36 : 10/8/2017 8:49 pm : link
I would love to get the #1 pick and then do what the 49ers did. Use the leverage of the top QB's to get someone to give up multiple picks to move back a few spots.

Pick Barkley like 3rd or 4th. THen have all those picks to sure up the offensive line and other positions of need.
RE: Take Saquon and give him no OLine to block for him  
Devon : 10/8/2017 8:51 pm : link
In comment 13637633 Bold Ruler said:
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That's Reese.


Saquon is that talent that would still produce behind a bad OL.

Reese won't take him though, so discussing him seems moot.
Trade down  
WillVAB : 10/8/2017 8:56 pm : link
With Buffalo for both of their 1st/2nds this year and their 1st/2nd next year. That's five premium picks in '18 and four in '19 to rebuild the OL and add talent on defense.
RE: Trade down  
montanagiant : 10/8/2017 8:57 pm : link
In comment 13637667 WillVAB said:
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With Buffalo for both of their 1st/2nds this year and their 1st/2nd next year. That's five premium picks in '18 and four in '19 to rebuild the OL and add talent on defense.

I like this idea
You guys are kidding  
Clintqb17 : 10/8/2017 9:15 pm : link
About Lamar Jackson right? He is not an NFL QB. Sorry!!!
Glad some of you are not the GM  
NYSports1 : 10/8/2017 9:16 pm : link
A 37 year old qb who has not won a playoff game in 7 years and just been to 1 and is showing not to be the same and you trade down or take a rb or tackle? When there are like 3 to 4 qb who are highly rated and thought off to be franchise qb/s just because of your infatuation with Eli? Eli is an Giants icon and will leave the team and be able to always be part of the Giants family after his days. You do not get handed a golden chance like this to try and rebuild for Eli when this team needs tons more than just a rb or tackle..Time to blow it all up
The OT or Rosen (if we decide Webb was a wasted pick)  
PatersonPlank : 10/8/2017 9:16 pm : link
I don't like the other QBs, they haven't been that good this year.
You'd go QB or OT  
illmatic : 10/8/2017 9:18 pm : link
assuming there's a tackle there they think could be a perennial all pro type. You almost have to go all out for the best QB though. It's rare that a team gets in this situation where they're able to replace a good but older QB with a blue chip first rounder. Not many teams luck out like the Packers or Colts did in replacing Favre and Manning. That might be Giants come draft time depending on where they finish and who's available.
QB or generational Defensive talent  
DennyInDenville : 10/8/2017 9:18 pm : link
Otherwise trade down for a plethora of draft picks
1 name  
Sy'56 : 10/8/2017 9:23 pm : link
Saquon Barkley
They’re taking a QB  
Sammo85 : 10/8/2017 9:24 pm : link
It’s not even a debate.

If you question this, please watch Wentz with the Eagles and you’ll learn.

This is arguably the deepest QB class and up there against the big ones in
NFL history with QB types for every offensive scheme there is.

This is not a good OL draft if you’re looking for a blue goose LT. Taking Barkley would be an awful decision that would cost this team years and years of building properly.
Get the top QB at all cost inside the top 5  
The_Boss : 10/8/2017 9:25 pm : link
Don’t “settle” for the 2nd or 3rd best guy.
RE: 1 name  
Sammo85 : 10/8/2017 9:26 pm : link
In comment 13637775 Sy'56 said:
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Saquon Barkley


I don’t agree at all Sy. Barkley is a luxury back. He’s a great fit for a team that has a good OL and has a QB.

We need to rebuild.
RE: They’re taking a QB  
The_Boss : 10/8/2017 9:28 pm : link
In comment 13637781 Sammo85 said:
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It’s not even a debate.

If you question this, please watch Wentz with the Eagles and you’ll learn.

This is arguably the deepest QB class and up there against the big ones in
NFL history with QB types for every offensive scheme there is.

This is not a good OL draft if you’re looking for a blue goose LT. Taking Barkley would be an awful decision that would cost this team years and years of building properly.


Both Dallas and Philly have their guys. The NYG need to follow suit.
People are sheep  
WillVAB : 10/8/2017 9:29 pm : link
People buy into draft hype every year about players and classes and it's bullshit.

If Reese picks a QB and is wrong, and there's a greater than 50% chance he will be wrong, it will set this franchise back a long time.
RE: RE: 1 name  
Sy'56 : 10/8/2017 9:34 pm : link
In comment 13637793 Sammo85 said:
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In comment 13637775 Sy'56 said:


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Saquon Barkley



I don’t agree at all Sy. Barkley is a luxury back. He’s a great fit for a team that has a good OL and has a QB.

We need to rebuild.


We can debate later....but I think he is a franchise-changing back. Yes the OL needs to be built, but I'm not sure there is a top 10 OL talent in this class.
Giants rebuilding line  
hassan : 10/8/2017 9:41 pm : link
Need not come at expense of taking a game changer
Never draft a Rb  
spike : 10/8/2017 9:44 pm : link
In the first round. Bargains can be had later rounds
If we are drafting in the top 5  
EricJ : 10/8/2017 9:45 pm : link
and a franchise QB is sitting there, we would be stupid not to take him. Eli is virtually done whether he wants it that way or not. Without a legitimate starting QB, it will be years before we are competitive again
RE: Giants rebuilding line  
WillVAB : 10/8/2017 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13637841 hassan said:
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Need not come at expense of taking a game changer


Beckham is a game changer, how has that translated into wins and losses?
RE: People are sheep  
thomasa510 : 10/8/2017 10:19 pm : link
In comment 13637810 WillVAB said:
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People buy into draft hype every year about players and classes and it's bullshit.

If Reese picks a QB and is wrong, and there's a greater than 50% chance he will be wrong, it will set this franchise back a long time.


That's not a decision changer. If you have the chance to draft a franchise QB then you do. The position is just that important.

Even if we grab a QB, I think manning should have a chance next year
RE: RE: People are sheep  
WillVAB : 10/8/2017 10:32 pm : link
In comment 13637984 thomasa510 said:
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In comment 13637810 WillVAB said:


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People buy into draft hype every year about players and classes and it's bullshit.

If Reese picks a QB and is wrong, and there's a greater than 50% chance he will be wrong, it will set this franchise back a long time.



That's not a decision changer. If you have the chance to draft a franchise QB then you do. The position is just that important.

Even if we grab a QB, I think manning should have a chance next year


I disagree. As a fan, I value championships. I think acquiring a bunch of premium picks now gives the Giants the best shot to address deficiencies and put themselves in a position to win another ring over the next few years. I don't see one pick on a QB getting this team any closer to winning a championship.
See thats what I thought in 2013 @ 0-6...  
guitarguybs12 : 10/8/2017 10:37 pm : link
then the fuckers had to run off 7 more wins.
RE: RE: RE: People are sheep  
RobCarpenter : 10/8/2017 10:43 pm : link


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I disagree. As a fan, I value championships. I think acquiring a bunch of premium picks now gives the Giants the best shot to address deficiencies and put themselves in a position to win another ring over the next few years. I don't see one pick on a QB getting this team any closer to winning a championship.


The Giants aren’t the Cleveland Browns. You take the franchise QB, then start the three year rebuild process. But the rebuild has to start with a new GM/head coach.
SAQUON BARKLEY  
brunswick : 10/8/2017 11:19 pm : link
and there shouldn't be a debate.
Barkley  
nyballa0891 : 10/8/2017 11:36 pm : link
Been clamoring for him for weeks. Qbs are a crapshoot and the olin talent at top of draft isnt that great (a pick in top 5 would be a reach). Eli has shown he still has enough Barkley is an absolute stud if youve seen enough of his tape
You have a chance to grab a franchise QB  
Vanzetti : 10/8/2017 11:58 pm : link
you don't pass it up.

QBs are just way more important than RBs in today's game.
People will be talking about Derwin James  
barens : 10/9/2017 12:05 am : link
Come draft time. May even bring back memories of the 2004 draft with Eli, Ben and Sean Taylor.
Pessimist!  
old man : 10/9/2017 12:17 am : link
We're sitting at at least 3 and no OBJ.
We go 1-16 at best.
I say....another weapon. If JR is still here.
It's a very strong draft at the top  
Vanzetti : 10/9/2017 12:39 am : link
it's a good year to suck
RE:  
Vanzetti : 10/9/2017 12:41 am : link
In comment 13637568 Eli owns all said:
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Qb - darnold or Rossen
Lt - Adams or McGlinchey
Rb - Barkley

Barkley being the least of the top 5


Agree 100%. Gives the Giants options. Get a new franchise QB or the franchise LT the team so desperately needs. Or a great RB
RE: 1 name  
old man : 10/9/2017 12:51 am : link
In comment 13637775 Sy'56 said:
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Saquon Barkley


Not questioning your player choice per se but with the current group of lugnuts and potentionally a worse group next year( I don't know of potential nonNYFG OL FAs) wouldn't we be better off going OL rd 1&2 ...give EF opportunity at RG and try to rebuild OL asap while we still have a nice Corp of receivers?
The Reese mess will take at least 3 years anyway...unless there are FAs in 18/19 that will come here and speed up turnaround.
Anyone who even mentions Josh Allen  
8 Ball : 10/9/2017 1:00 am : link
makes me chuckle. Like I do when a chick talks about routes.... Have any of you actually watched Allen play this season? Or even looked at his stats? He sucks. And its not a case of him being surrounded by crappy players. His accuracy and decision-making are awful.
Saquon  
RAIN : 10/9/2017 2:31 am : link
I get the bit about the QB's too. Darnold was the guy, but his struggles has thrown the wrench in the can't miss hyperbole. Rosen ha stud talent, but his attitude in NYC scares me. After that there's some really intriguing talent that will become available; and the balance of the season will bear that out.

Right now though Barkley looks like he can carry an offense in the mold of the old time dominant backs like Sanders, like Dickerson, and Simpson. His collection of speed, size, vision, and change of direction don't come around ... ever. If a QB steps up n front him, I get it. For me it would have to be Darnold getting right and living up to he hype. But right now Saquon is the real deal and could have QB like impact.
From Drew Boylhart....  
Milton : 10/9/2017 4:46 am : link
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1 – Someone needs to pay attention to WR Jaleel Scott New Mexico State; there is too much size, speed and talent not too.

2 – I said it last week and I’ll say once again this week; USC Sam Darnold is a very talent quarterback who is not ready for the NFL. Stop pushing him into a level he is not ready for.

4 – I keep waiting for Penn State RB Saquan Barkley to show me that he might not be THE best player in this coming draft. So far it hasn’t happened.

7 – The most improved QB so far this season is Clemson QB Kelly Bryant. His play from the pocket has been improving from week to week. Credit to the coaching and to Kelly who seems to be very coachable. The difference in Kelly’s improved play and coaching is leaps and bounds better than what USC is accomplishing with its high profile quarterback.

9 – Louisville QB Lamar Jackson is an excellent athlete playing the quarterback position. He reminds me a lot of RGIII.

10 – There is something lacking in UCLA Josh Rosen’s game and I know what it is. It’s something quarterbacks have to have to win the big games consistently and it has nothing to do with talent. It’s the same problem the Charges QB Philip Rivers has.

"Talking to Myself" - ( New Window )
One of the QBs  
jeff57 : 10/9/2017 6:21 am : link
Darnold, Rosen or Jackson. Don't have a preference as of yet.
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