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Defense is such a fraud

Section131 : 10/9/2017 10:20 am
All I know is this defense was supposed to be so much better than how they're playing. Apple sucks. Collins isn't making the plays he made last year. They have zero pass rush. Cant get off the field on 3rd downs. Cant stop a team from scoring after we score a TD (complementary football). Yes OV is hurt but most other starters are healthy and just playing awful.
Could be that the league has adjusted and now  
Brown Recluse : 10/9/2017 10:22 am : link
Spags is lost.

Sounds familiar.
Coaches not getting the most  
Rflairr : 10/9/2017 10:23 am : link
Out of very talented players. Itís a shame
This Defense is as healthy  
RetroJint : 10/9/2017 10:27 am : link
as an NFL unit is ever going to be. The excuse about being placed into a field-position , time-of-possession box went out two games ago. Green Bay got after them in the second half of the playoff game. It's been tits since. 1 interception in 5 games. No pass rush. Obscene third-down conversion %. Draw your own conclusion .
its a lot of players regressing  
Dankbeerman : 10/9/2017 10:30 am : link
only guys that are close to last year are jackrabbit, Kenard and DRC.

They have the pieces..  
ryanmkeane : 10/9/2017 10:31 am : link
problem is they are all individual pieces and not putting them together.
its the culture  
Section131 : 10/9/2017 10:34 am : link
who's the leader on this team? they just go through the motions. i was at the game, during commercial time outs, players are dancing to the stadium music while in the huddle. painful to watch.
Giants other than las year  
joeinpa : 10/9/2017 10:34 am : link
Have not had a good defense dating back to 2012.

Hard to have a dominating defense when you don t value linebackers
3rd and long  
sinister_bee98 : 10/9/2017 10:34 am : link
back to Perry Fewell days. We dont defend the sticks. Drives me nuts. 3rd and 15? Give a 20 yard cushion.
The Defense is terrible  
NYG007 : 10/9/2017 11:21 am : link
And Collins looks like a rookie all over again.

NYG should in all rights be 2-3. With any luck or Special Teams were 3-2 beating Detroit.

The offense has done enough to win the last few weeks, the defense is beyond bad. Every single time we score, its 7 for 7. That's pathetic.

JPP got paid and quit. He looked stellar in pre season, against guys bagging groceries a month later. He is either an idiot the way he lines up, but it doesn't matter, he gets zero push anyway this year.
I can't believe how many times  
JFIB : 10/9/2017 11:28 am : link
We only rushed 3 on third down. Every single time we only rushed 3 on third down was an easy completion. When Spags sent the blitz, Rivers was unloading early but had all day to find his guys on third. It was maddening.
Giants defense  
jacob12 : 10/9/2017 12:07 pm : link
Giants fans grossly overrate our defense.We have no pass rush,marginal LB,poor pass coverage safeties,Apple is abysmal,and the Giants miss Hankins.

The only time we get pressure is when the Giants blitz.I think Steve has done an excellent job.Last season the Giants blitzed far more than any team in the NFL.

Unless our pass rush dramatically improves,the defense will struggle.The Giants defensive coordinator is not the problem.
Contrary to Reese  
jeff57 : 10/9/2017 12:08 pm : link
Linebackers matter.
That soft D with a ton of cushion on 3rd and long  
montanagiant : 10/9/2017 12:18 pm : link
Is infuriating to see.

RE: The Defense is terrible  
bradshaw44 : 10/9/2017 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13638897 NYG007 said:
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And Collins looks like a rookie all over again.

NYG should in all rights be 2-3. With any luck or Special Teams were 3-2 beating Detroit.

The offense has done enough to win the last few weeks, the defense is beyond bad. Every single time we score, its 7 for 7. That's pathetic.

JPP got paid and quit. He looked stellar in pre season, against guys bagging groceries a month later. He is either an idiot the way he lines up, but it doesn't matter, he gets zero push anyway this year.


We are 4-1 in what ifs if youíre adding Detroit to the win column. Philly, tamp, Chargers all could have been won with a defense thatís half serviceable. Add Detroit and itís 4-1.
RE: Contrary to Reese  
Dan in the Springs : 10/9/2017 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13639041 jeff57 said:
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Linebackers matter.


This is true. Especially on 3rd down. You have to have guys who can cover and tackle in the short-range area. With Robinson last year we seemed to have that. This year he hasn't looked like himself yet. He's definitely running a step slower than last year.

Casillas also looks to have lost at least a step. If you can't keep up with RB's and TE's, your ability to get off the field on 3rd down is severely compromised, as we've all been witness to.
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