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NFT: Mets leaving Las Vegas for Syracuse!

DanMetroMan : 10/9/2017 4:35 pm
Yes!
Wilpons  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2017 4:36 pm : link
Will own the team so no more moving either
Love this!  
Sean : 10/9/2017 4:41 pm : link
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Mets  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2017 4:45 pm : link
Will remain in LV for the 2018 season and leave when their contract expires
Finally  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2017 4:48 pm : link
something to not complain about Mets related.

Hope they don't screw it up like Buffalo.

But now our hitting stats will look awful!  
NewFakeDannyHeep : 10/9/2017 4:49 pm : link
just kidding.

Good move for once.
RE: Finally  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2017 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13639635 pjcas18 said:
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something to not complain about Mets related.

Hope they don't screw it up like Buffalo.


They cant. Nobody to piss off as they will own the franchise. They can put as much crappy talent or ignore their AAA gm and fans all they want (all reasons other spots ended poorly). All kidding aside they can do as they please. Oh yeah and if Tebow is still playing you can bet your ass hes in Syracuse
RE: RE: Finally  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2017 4:58 pm : link
In comment 13639640 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13639635 pjcas18 said:


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something to not complain about Mets related.

Hope they don't screw it up like Buffalo.




They cant. Nobody to piss off as they will own the franchise. They can put as much crappy talent or ignore their AAA gm and fans all they want (all reasons other spots ended poorly). All kidding aside they can do as they please. Oh yeah and if Tebow is still playing you can bet your ass hes in Syracuse

So how did this happen? All the discussions we had about this you (and others) would say there's simply nowhere "local" for them to move.

How did Syracuse become available?

Good news!!  
Vanzetti : 10/9/2017 4:59 pm : link
I think it was really hard to gauge players in Vegas. Might have led to Sandy overestimating some guys and their readiness to contribute

Im actually looking forward to this season  
Vanzetti : 10/9/2017 5:03 pm : link
And think the Mets are going to surprise.

Any rotation with Thor and Degrom at the top has a chance to be tough, especially in the postseason

I can definitely see this team squeaking into the postseason with 88 wins and then going deeper than expected
I see  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2017 5:04 pm : link
they bought the Syracuse Chiefs.

I know some of us differed on the impact, but they harped on it many times during Mets broadcasts how a) LV was poor for player evals (pitchers and hitters), b) it was not convenient for shor-term injuries or short notice of injuries and c) it was not convenient for scouting.

and they always brought up the Braves who I guess have all their teams close by - as do most clubs.

They'd bring up the fact the Mets were by far the team with the most distance between the big league club and their AAA team in the majors.
Happy to see this!  
Chris L. : 10/9/2017 5:17 pm : link
Now it would be nice to see them put some money into a real manager not one who had a lifetime losing record when he got here and no one else wanted but was signed because he only cost a million bucks.
Wilpons ?  
njm : 10/9/2017 5:21 pm : link
Surprised they didn't buy the Charlestown Chiefs
They  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2017 5:30 pm : link
Had to buy a team to get out of LV and they did. Great job for once.
Credit where credit is due  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2017 5:30 pm : link
granted they shouldn't have screwed up Norfolk after 35 years there and then they should have found a way to make Buffalo work, but this is a good thing.
Pleasantly surprised that they did something that had to be done  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/9/2017 5:38 pm : link
for baseball reasons.

LV is bad for many reasons, including that the stadium there is far below even minor league standards.
They should have been in Scranton  
Jim in Scranton : 10/9/2017 5:45 pm : link
if it weren't were for crooked politics.
Did they  
spike : 10/9/2017 5:49 pm : link
Get a discount on the deal?
It's a less than 1 hour flight  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2017 5:56 pm : link
around a 4 hour drive (I think) in the same time zone.

Who gives a shit about the rest.

this should mean the days of playing short-handed in the bullpen or with a short bench because they just couldn't get someone to NY are hopefully over.

maybe the W/L impact was nothing, maybe it was a small impact, but it's over (after next season).
.  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/9/2017 5:58 pm : link
didn't see a link here so I will add this one from Syracuase  
Steve in South Jersey : 10/9/2017 6:26 pm : link
http://www.syracuse.com/chiefs/index.ssf/2017/10/new_york_mets_will_buy_syracuse_chiefs_bring_its_triple-a_team_to_syracuse.html
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arcarsenal : 10/9/2017 6:27 pm : link
Wow, the Mets did something right!
Bonus to getting Syracuse  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/9/2017 6:28 pm : link

It's currently the Nats franchise. So the Mets top rival now has to s rable to find a club. Hopefully get stuck with Vegas!
We should plan a BBI meetup there in 2019  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 10/9/2017 6:31 pm : link
Maybe we can swing down to Albany to, for old times sake.
DMM  
Jerry from Maine : 10/9/2017 6:45 pm : link
You just made my day.. Hell whole week :) 4 hr drive. Looking forward to my first weekend in Syracuse.
Excuse me for the ignorance...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/9/2017 6:50 pm : link
But why were they ever in Vegas to begin with? Isn't proximity to the major league club the goal? I've been to two Triple A games (Sacramento River Cats/ Triple A affiliate of the Giants, Gwinnett Braves, Triple A affiliate of the Braves). Both of those teams were a stone's throw away from the major league club.
RE: Excuse me for the ignorance...  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2017 7:02 pm : link
In comment 13639858 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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But why were they ever in Vegas to begin with? Isn't proximity to the major league club the goal? I've been to two Triple A games (Sacramento River Cats/ Triple A affiliate of the Giants, Gwinnett Braves, Triple A affiliate of the Braves). Both of those teams were a stone's throw away from the major league club.


No other options. As noted above they pissed off Norfolk, landed in NO where they also had a falling out, then Buffalo who 1. Didnt like the talent the Mets gave them 2 wanted to be tied to the Blue Jays due to Geography. Their issues with AAA span over a decade. That will finally be over with as franchise owner
RE: DMM  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2017 7:02 pm : link
In comment 13639851 Jerry from Maine said:
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You just made my day.. Hell whole week :) 4 hr drive. Looking forward to my first weekend in Syracuse.


Really great news
Last piece to the puzzle  
Shecky : 10/9/2017 7:20 pm : link
Of collecting an excessive number of bullpen arms
AAA Whack-a-mole  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/9/2017 8:02 pm : link
Most AAA teams are affiliated with a big club whose city is a reasonable distance. But there's been this constant churn of odd matches in recent years. The biggest one now is the A's affiliate being Nashville. If they took Vegas leaving Nashville to the Nats, things would be pretty square.

The Dodgers (OKC) and Astros (Fresno) swapping affiliates would make some sense too.
This is odd they are building a new facility in Summerlin  
gtt350 : 10/9/2017 8:35 pm : link
(las vegas) .
Just keep that dickwad Jeff on a leash  
Torrag : 10/9/2017 8:48 pm : link
He single handedly fucked up the whole minor league setup to begin with and is 100% capable of doing it again.
RE: This is odd they are building a new facility in Summerlin  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/9/2017 8:53 pm : link
In comment 13640108 gtt350 said:
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(las vegas) .

Not odd. Some MLB team will end up affiliating there.
RE: Just keep that dickwad Jeff on a leash  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/9/2017 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13640136 Torrag said:
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He single handedly fucked up the whole minor league setup to begin with and is 100% capable of doing it again.


It's gonna be the dark ages when Fred dies and Jeff is the sole owner.
RE: RE: Just keep that dickwad Jeff on a leash  
spike : 10/9/2017 10:52 pm : link
In comment 13640204 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13640136 Torrag said:


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He single handedly fucked up the whole minor league setup to begin with and is 100% capable of doing it again.



It's gonna be the dark ages when Fred dies and Jeff is the sole owner.


hopefully he will sell the team because he cant handle it
RE: We should plan a BBI meetup there in 2019  
Vanzetti : 10/10/2017 12:03 am : link
In comment 13639837 Gary from The East End said:
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Maybe we can swing down to Albany to, for old times sake.



I'll write to B in ALB and ask if he can put us up. He loves me, so answer will probably be yes
Yanks fan here but a Mets AAA team in Syracuse  
Del Shofner : 10/10/2017 12:08 am : link
will get my support. Great move.
MLBTR projections  
DanMetroMan : 10/10/2017 6:55 am : link
MLBTR (via MMO):

Norichika Aoki (5.148) $6.3MM
Tommy Milone (5.113) $2.2MM
Matt Harvey (5.072) $5.9MM
A.J. Ramos (5.030) $9.2MM
Jeurys Familia (5.024) $7.4MM
Zack Wheeler (4.098) $1.9MM
Travis dArnaud (4.044) $3.4MM
Wilmer Flores (4.003) $3.7MM
Jacob deGrom (3.139) $9.2MM
Noah Syndergaard (2.149) $1.9MM
Hansel Robles (2.127) $1.0MM
RE: Im actually looking forward to this season  
gmenatlarge : 10/10/2017 9:00 am : link
In comment 13639670 Vanzetti said:
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And think the Mets are going to surprise.

Any rotation with Thor and Degrom at the top has a chance to be tough, especially in the postseason

I can definitely see this team squeaking into the postseason with 88 wins and then going deeper than expected


Quietly hope you are right, but I would like some of what you're smoking! Watching the playoff teams this year all I can see are lineups that are VASTLY better than the Mets AAA lineup. Unless they are bringing in some FA's I don't see them competing for anything next year, sadly.
Aoki for 6mil  
spike : 10/10/2017 9:14 am : link
Is too much for a role player.

Pass
RE: Aoki for 6mil  
DanMetroMan : 10/10/2017 9:14 am : link
In comment 13640914 spike said:
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Is too much for a role player.

Pass


Gotta non-tender him and then you can consider trying to bring him back. No way is he worth that to this team.
RE: RE: This is odd they are building a new facility in Summerlin  
Pete in MD : 10/10/2017 9:16 am : link
In comment 13640150 Jim in Fairfax said:
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(las vegas) .


Not odd. Some MLB team will end up affiliating there.


I don't think the new stadium in Summerlin is a sure thing yet.
This is really  
Metnut : 10/10/2017 9:28 am : link
good news. Glad to see it finally happen. Vegas has been a problem for years and Syracuse is a great fit.

So the Mets gave up a real prospect for the right to pay $9M to the mediocre Ramos? What a terrible idea.
It's intersting  
Pete in MD : 10/10/2017 9:47 am : link
that the Syracuse Chiefs are currently owned by around 4,000 shareholders and controlled by a 13 person board of directors. I wonder if the shareholders are making a nice profit. Shares were reportedly worth ~$125.
RE: RE: RE: This is odd they are building a new facility in Summerlin  
Shecky : 10/10/2017 10:07 am : link
In comment 13640922 Pete in MD said:
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I don't think the new stadium in Summerlin is a sure thing yet.

Not officially done, but it will get done. Lets just say they have huge plans.
RE: This is really  
spike : 10/10/2017 10:42 am : link
In comment 13640958 Metnut said:
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good news. Glad to see it finally happen. Vegas has been a problem for years and Syracuse is a great fit.

So the Mets gave up a real prospect for the right to pay $9M to the mediocre Ramos? What a terrible idea.


We couldve paid Reed half that money to return
RE: RE: This is really  
DanMetroMan : 10/10/2017 10:46 am : link
In comment 13641140 spike said:
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In comment 13640958 Metnut said:


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good news. Glad to see it finally happen. Vegas has been a problem for years and Syracuse is a great fit.

So the Mets gave up a real prospect for the right to pay $9M to the mediocre Ramos? What a terrible idea.



We couldve paid Reed half that money to return


Spike,
Reed is getting WAY more than half of AJ Ramos's 9 million.He made 7.75 in 2017 via arbitration.
Can we pay him  
spike : 10/10/2017 10:47 am : link
Ramos 9 mil?
Still  
pjcas18 : 10/10/2017 10:47 am : link
Reed would not have cost Merandy Gonzalez.

who may amount to nothing, but why make that trade at all?

Where would Merandy have been on the Mets top prospect list? 5?
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pjcas18 : 10/10/2017 11:12 am : link
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RE: Still  
DanMetroMan : 10/10/2017 11:33 am : link
In comment 13641157 pjcas18 said:
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Reed would not have cost Merandy Gonzalez.

who may amount to nothing, but why make that trade at all?

Where would Merandy have been on the Mets top prospect list? 5?


I would have had him in the 6-8 range but yeah easily top 10.
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