With so much consternation rightly heaped on the pathetic McAdoo offense and the questionable in game decisions by the HC, not as much attention has been paid to coach Spags failures. Eli Apple being benched and having a tough season, the defense has been soft on the edges getting little pass pressure, so stout against the run last year they’re getting gashed in the run game this year and completely failing to get off the field on third down, LC hasn’t been the player he was last year. The defense has not been good. And, while it’s hardly indicative of Spags coaching ability, I thought Jackrabbit leaving the field early on Sunday might be an indication the defense isn’t mentally in any better shape than the offense.
Is the “culture” of Ben McAdoo spilling over and onto the defense? What’s the matter with Spags defense?
Overrated.
I think the league took the Giants D very seriously this year and studied them.
The corridor has to adjust and he hasn't and the players seem pretty lazy this year. Love these guys work a lot of money last year they acted like they have something to prove maybe this year they decided they proved what they had to and decided to take it easy I don't know
Overrated.
Agreed...lot of good pices on defense...for some reason they took a swoon dive...hard to say why...mostly the same guys....
All things considered, I don't think Spags gets the most out of what he's given like Marinelli, but you can do a lot worse than Spags. Think about how shitty the Giants d was under Sheridan in '09 vs '08 with essentially the same talent.
He didn't stand for the anthem either.
Little tired of the OV is hurt excuse, heard that all last year. Face it, he and JPP are hugely overpaid and underproductive, another Reese failure.
He had one great year in 2011 and lived on his reputation from there.
was upgraded from last year
Defense is TERRIBLE
the fact is offense has given defense the lead in the last minutes twice and they blew it both times
the defense was suppose to be strength this year and turn into weakness
what the hell happened?
And you can't blem the offense when you get skewered for 18 play, 90 yard drives int he first half at Philly, can't get off the field aagainst anybody.
There's not much difference between Spags and Fewell in terms of quality.
Even last season, pressure was generated by blitzes, not from the front 4.....First two games when OV and JPP were healthy, still no sacks or pressures......We invested big bucks in our DE's and we are not getting a good return on them.....
It's fun to play, when everything is clicking......but when you can't sack the qb, or create turnovers, that's why this defense is out on the field so long.....how many 3 and outs have there been?
And now you have both DE's hurt......Snacks can't do it alone......our linebackers have been exposed once again in the passing game....and Eli Apple can't be coached to look for the ball.....
As for Collins, is he trying to do too much, instead of just concentrating on his own game? He has given up quite a few big pass plays, in just 5 games.....our FS position is a joke.....could not find a replay of the Thompson int, showing his positioning on the play....was it just a bad throw by Rivers, or did he actually make a play?
With a year of film on this defense, it's weaknesses have been exposed, and teams are taking advantage of it....
Front seven isn't playing well collectively, and it's affecting the entire unit. Apple's issues with grabbing and not looking back for the ball are mental errors he's got to fix, as he did a season ago.
BUT > They would do that only during the offseason:
Once the season starts, it needs to be a Defensive Coordinator dictatorship, as it should be right now:
We have no information, it is possible that personell moves, or other factors, have been dictated from the HC or even worse, the GM, during the season, which would have obviously been a huge mistake, don't think Mac has much a clue on this.
Or, worse than that, a position coach, like d-backs, dictating up the chain to the D coordinator, using the GM as leverage, pulling people in and out at will, or narrowing down the schemes, or pushing one kid at the expense of another. No.
It is going back to what Eli Apple said, 'fixing the culture', with an O centric head coach, the Defensive Coordinator should have full dictatorial powers over who starts, who warms the bench, and who is on the roster and who gets cut. And everyone else can STFU.
Players ought not gripe about that:
Creative endeavors are rarely if ever done well as group efforts, it needs be a dictatorship, and Mac has no experience at all on the D side.
How you ''cure the culture'' is by giving the D coordinator full dictator powers. GM and HC should be moot once the season starts on D.
All that having been said, w/l not being in line, when offseason comes, that person can also be fired.
Possibly you separate the management of staff; coaches hiring and firings, from player management, the draft and recruiting, roster decisions, ...giving each total autonomy with a third party to watch over the process:
In this way you would avoid possible conflicts of interest as in "my guys" (players you drafted high or coaches you brought in) one vs the other.
Obviously, you want recruitment to synch with what style of ball you want to play, (GM sees eye to eye with coaches) but that's during the offseason.
But there should be zero interference with, zero influence on coaching once the season starts. The only time they should talk during the season is if the DC or OC asks for an additional free agent, and what type.
The best laid plans and all that...its crazy.
He had to come off his man, stay low (so QB would not see him coming) and cut across the end zone, get high. Good throw, QB didn't see him coming. Good players make big plays. This was huge.
Thompsons PD in the end zone was even better, he had to lay out horizontal and pull the ball down from the players grip, perfect.
THIS- Its being freed from 'prevent duties' due to red zone (back of field acts as prevent in a sense, that freed the kid up to make plays in front of WRs, which he can do obviously, he had like 16 INTs in college - not a fluke).
Go find the historic roster of safeties at NYG, safety management has been -abysmal- here for 15 years.
Thompson also got home on a blitz sack, something Kennard has failed to do all to often, for example.
This was a game where even Jackrabbit ( a stellar and amazing corner) made mistakes.
the problem I have with playing zone defense is blown coverages and they mostly lead to TDs..