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Denver a must game?

Doomster : 10/10/2017 1:27 pm
Just kidding...every game was a must game after the Detroit loss....

I was of the opinion, that, it's not over until that 8th loss....but with what we will be trotting out there, at WR's this week, it looks like the season is over before Halloween...



This game could get ugly, very quickly......the Denver defense will be throwing stunts at the OL, all over the place.....god forbid they decide to blitz us....their DB's will be jumping the short routes....

As for Denver, Siemian is not that good....however, if this Giant defense does not bring pressure, we will make him look more like the Denver GM, than Siemian....he has two good runners....and the RB's and TE's can't be covered by our linebackers.....look for them to exploit Apple with Sanders/Fowler.....

No OBj? We saw what our offense looked like in Minny and the beginning of the year, without him.....Can you imagine two guys off the street, possibly being our receivers? Hard to believe, Denver is "only" giving 12 points.....

And yet, this is the kind of game, that the Giants somehow, play great games in.....in fact, I think it might be close for awhile, but then, like they have done all season, they will be their own worst enemy.....it will either be, one of the great upsets of all time, or another Monday Night disaster, in front of a national audience, again....
I m half way to being  
joeinpa : 10/10/2017 1:29 pm : link
Excited about a top 5 pick and a shot at one of those quarterbacks.

But at 0-6 a few years back I was still hoping for meaningful games and got one in game 12.
RE: I m half way to being  
Matt M. : 10/10/2017 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13641547 joeinpa said:
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Excited about a top 5 pick and a shot at one of those quarterbacks.

But at 0-6 a few years back I was still hoping for meaningful games and got one in game 12.
I would be more excited to trade down. Taking a franchise QB would make more sense to me in a couple of years. If they draft one this year, they should trade Manning. Otherwise, either their current franchise QB will get bumped prematurely or they have a #1 pick sitting for his entire rookie contract, which just doesn't happen anymore.
It's a "must" game in the sense that the Giants must  
NYGmen58 : 10/10/2017 1:34 pm : link
show up to play... in the literal sense. They actually have to go to Denver, suit up 53 guys, and play a game of football.
Its a Must Not Watch Game ...  
Bluesbreaker : 10/10/2017 1:38 pm : link
Poor friggen Eli they had to bring back Bobby The Greatest Hart back ....uhg
How to keep Eli alive:  
NorwoodWideRight : 10/10/2017 1:51 pm : link
1st down: run up the middle.
2nd down: run up the middle.
3rd down: run up the middle.
4th down: punt.
You are becoming a troll  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/10/2017 1:56 pm : link
just be quiet already.
I'd play very conservative......  
BillKo : 10/10/2017 1:57 pm : link
emphasize field position........ran it last week, maybe we can build on that.

Need a big game from the punter.

And we need to get turnovers to win, esp a turnover for a score.

If we try to run our predictable slants, we are going to really get killed....I can see Denver ready for that with their pass defense.


For Denver maybe  
PatersonPlank : 10/10/2017 1:59 pm : link
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Gameplan  
spike : 10/10/2017 2:03 pm : link
Kneel whenever we have the ball
i think  
Les in TO : 10/10/2017 2:12 pm : link
it will be close for a half - the giants D and special teams will keep them in the game (wing will enjoy the thin air of mile high). 10-3 broncos at the half....but then the wheels will come off in the second half as the defense is gassed from being on the field, Senor Shoulder Shrug will throw a pick six or give up a fumble and the final score will be something like 31-3.
Les you are really an unlikeable poster  
TommytheElephant : 10/10/2017 2:19 pm : link
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RE: I m half way to being  
Matt in SGS : 10/10/2017 2:22 pm : link
In comment 13641547 joeinpa said:
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Excited about a top 5 pick and a shot at one of those quarterbacks.

But at 0-6 a few years back I was still hoping for meaningful games and got one in game 12.


The Giants going 0-6 back in 2013 set up the Giants for the most unrealistic 7-9 finish ever because of all the backup QBs they faced in a row to suddenly find themselves with a semi-meaningful game. That team should have been 3-13. The injuries this year and all around poor/ inconsistent play will fulfill the missed "promise" of 2013. Denver is going to be a shitshow.
As shitty as it feels to say it,  
GiAnT4LYFE : 10/10/2017 2:30 pm : link
I don't want to see us win a game this year. Absolutely nothing will change if we even make it to 6-10 or better. There is no way the Mara's are forced to clean house unless we suck from here on out. We have some very good pieces to build upon, but I want a new regime from VP of player personnel (unlikely) and down. GM, scouts if needed, HC and coaching staff all gone. Find a good GM candidate and let them build upon our pieces how they see fit.

I don't want to see MacAdoo near the stadium after the last game, Reese either. Flowers over Gurley is enough to be pissed at.

This reminds me exactly how I felt about the Giants during the Handley era.
I  
crick n NC : 10/10/2017 2:31 pm : link
Have to agree with Tommy
RE: i think  
B in ALB : 10/10/2017 2:35 pm : link
In comment 13641618 Les in TO said:
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it will be close for a half - the giants D and special teams will keep them in the game (wing will enjoy the thin air of mile high). 10-3 broncos at the half....but then the wheels will come off in the second half as the defense is gassed from being on the field, Senor Shoulder Shrug will throw a pick six or give up a fumble and the final score will be something like 31-3.


Honestly, what's your fucking problem? You never struck me as an asshole. But the constant childish bullshit when it comes to Eli is becoming ridiculous. Give it a rest.
At this point i'm almost expecting them to make a run.  
guitarguybs12 : 10/10/2017 2:37 pm : link
Go like 9-1 the next 10 games, with needing a win the final game for the last wild card spot and lose it...just to really stick it to us.

RE: RE: i think  
Les in TO : 10/10/2017 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13641637 B in ALB said:
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In comment 13641618 Les in TO said:


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it will be close for a half - the giants D and special teams will keep them in the game (wing will enjoy the thin air of mile high). 10-3 broncos at the half....but then the wheels will come off in the second half as the defense is gassed from being on the field, Senor Shoulder Shrug will throw a pick six or give up a fumble and the final score will be something like 31-3.



Honestly, what's your fucking problem? You never struck me as an asshole. But the constant childish bullshit when it comes to Eli is becoming ridiculous. Give it a rest.
why are you so angry? maybe you should take up yoga or meditation.
RE: RE: I m half way to being  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 10/10/2017 2:42 pm : link
In comment 13641552 Matt M. said:
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In comment 13641547 joeinpa said:


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Excited about a top 5 pick and a shot at one of those quarterbacks.

But at 0-6 a few years back I was still hoping for meaningful games and got one in game 12.

I would be more excited to trade down. Taking a franchise QB would make more sense to me in a couple of years. If they draft one this year, they should trade Manning. Otherwise, either their current franchise QB will get bumped prematurely or they have a #1 pick sitting for his entire rookie contract, which just doesn't happen anymore.


How old do you think Eli is? Giants fans are bloody delusional about how long this guy is going to play.
I've written off the season. It's kind of liberating  
Bramton1 : 10/10/2017 2:43 pm : link
While I can root for the Giants, I now expect them to lose, so there isn't any shock or major disappointment when they do.

A few hours ago, I went into my fantasy team I realized I had the Denver defense going next week. I realized they might win the game for me all by themselves.
Les is all about that eyeblack..  
Sean : 10/10/2017 2:44 pm : link
Needs to see his QB's head butting and yelling all the time. Maybe throwing teammates under the bus. How any NYG fan can be disrespectful to Eli is beyond me.
RE: RE: RE: i think  
B in ALB : 10/10/2017 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13641640 Les in TO said:
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In comment 13641637 B in ALB said:


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In comment 13641618 Les in TO said:


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it will be close for a half - the giants D and special teams will keep them in the game (wing will enjoy the thin air of mile high). 10-3 broncos at the half....but then the wheels will come off in the second half as the defense is gassed from being on the field, Senor Shoulder Shrug will throw a pick six or give up a fumble and the final score will be something like 31-3.



Honestly, what's your fucking problem? You never struck me as an asshole. But the constant childish bullshit when it comes to Eli is becoming ridiculous. Give it a rest.

why are you so angry? maybe you should take up yoga or meditation.


No anger here bud. Just tired of reading horseshit.
RE: i think  
Mike from Ohio : 10/10/2017 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13641618 Les in TO said:
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it will be close for a half - the giants D and special teams will keep them in the game (wing will enjoy the thin air of mile high). 10-3 broncos at the half....but then the wheels will come off in the second half as the defense is gassed from being on the field, Senor Shoulder Shrug will throw a pick six or give up a fumble and the final score will be something like 31-3.


When people say that Giants fans are classier and smarter than other fan bases, you just need to come to BBI and read posts like this to know that that isn't true.
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arcarsenal : 10/10/2017 3:00 pm : link
Some Giants fans never deserved #10.
RE: RE: I m half way to being  
BillKo : 10/10/2017 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13641627 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 13641547 joeinpa said:


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Excited about a top 5 pick and a shot at one of those quarterbacks.

But at 0-6 a few years back I was still hoping for meaningful games and got one in game 12.



The Giants going 0-6 back in 2013 set up the Giants for the most unrealistic 7-9 finish ever because of all the backup QBs they faced in a row to suddenly find themselves with a semi-meaningful game. That team should have been 3-13. The injuries this year and all around poor/ inconsistent play will fulfill the missed "promise" of 2013. Denver is going to be a shitshow.


You're exactly right, and I forgot about all the backup QBs...because that Giants team was extremely woeful. In fact, worse than the team we have seen so far this year (minus our current injuries).

That was a three/four win team at most.

This team might win only two games, but should be better.

What's that say?

Coaching.
2013 was a funny season  
Chris684 : 10/10/2017 3:14 pm : link
It was a shit sandwich to start out, and then yes, a bunch of backup QBs for us to get fat off of and setup a meaningful game at home against Dallas which we promptly lost and then we were able to pack up the tents for good on any realistic chance we might have thought we had.

As a side note, anyone who was at that Dallas game, remember how cold it was? I thought I was going to die when the wind gust blew through the parking lot during pre-game tailgate.

Probably the coldest Giants game I've ever been and it was only mid-November.

Polar Vortex.
Interested to see  
ryanmkeane : 10/10/2017 3:28 pm : link
which of the OL are still interested in trying, and how Gallman looks with more work.
If NBC was worried about ratings before  
NNJ Tom : 10/10/2017 3:37 pm : link
this game won't help. I bet they wish they could flex the Giants back to 1 PM Sunday.
I can't wait to see 50 pass attempts  
Heisenberg : 10/10/2017 3:41 pm : link
and Travis Rudolph getting 15 targets 3 yards past the LOS.
Matt when your quarterback who will be 39  
joeinpa : 10/10/2017 4:04 pm : link
Next season, and you get The chance to draft your next franchise quarterback, you do it.

Better to lose Eli prematurely like the Colts did with Peyton, and get Andrew Luck when you can.

Besides if Eli is still there, the kid could sit for a year.
A "must game"  
OC2.0 : 10/10/2017 4:27 pm : link
for what? This team already has stuck a fork in their own ass sad to say.
Eli's only  
Bleedblue10 : 10/10/2017 4:30 pm : link
36 bro
RE: RE: I m half way to being  
chopperhatch : 10/10/2017 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13641552 Matt M. said:
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In comment 13641547 joeinpa said:


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Excited about a top 5 pick and a shot at one of those quarterbacks.

But at 0-6 a few years back I was still hoping for meaningful games and got one in game 12.

I would be more excited to trade down. Taking a franchise QB would make more sense to me in a couple of years. If they draft one this year, they should trade Manning. Otherwise, either their current franchise QB will get bumped prematurely or they have a #1 pick sitting for his entire rookie contract, which just doesn't happen anymore.


The talent at QB in this draft is up there with only 04 and '83 being more impressive to my knowledge at least. It is exceedingly rare to pick so high in the draft and it happens to coincide with an opportunity to nail down our future at qb while having him step in with pretty decent talent to surround him with next year. Get in the top 3. Pick your guy. Draft and sogn OL. Trading out of a top 4 spot only makes sense if you already have your qb locked up for 10+ years.
Its a must game  
est1986 : 10/10/2017 7:23 pm : link
As in must lose to keep pace with Cleveland and San Fran for April's sake.
Normally that would only be half serious..  
est1986 : 10/10/2017 7:26 pm : link
But we dont stand a chance this week..
RE: RE: RE: I m half way to being  
est1986 : 10/10/2017 7:32 pm : link
In comment 13641903 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 13641552 Matt M. said:


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In comment 13641547 joeinpa said:


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Excited about a top 5 pick and a shot at one of those quarterbacks.

But at 0-6 a few years back I was still hoping for meaningful games and got one in game 12.

I would be more excited to trade down. Taking a franchise QB would make more sense to me in a couple of years. If they draft one this year, they should trade Manning. Otherwise, either their current franchise QB will get bumped prematurely or they have a #1 pick sitting for his entire rookie contract, which just doesn't happen anymore.



The talent at QB in this draft is up there with only 04 and '83 being more impressive to my knowledge at least. It is exceedingly rare to pick so high in the draft and it happens to coincide with an opportunity to nail down our future at qb while having him step in with pretty decent talent to surround him with next year. Get in the top 3. Pick your guy. Draft and sogn OL. Trading out of a top 4 spot only makes sense if you already have your qb locked up for 10+ years.


Or the opportunity to gain multiple first round pick assets.. You really only ever get a kings ransom if a franchise QB is available at your pick.. Not advocating that just agreeing that its a good year for getting a top 3 pick.
RE: How to keep Eli alive:  
old man : 10/10/2017 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13641587 NorwoodWideRight said:
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1st down: run up the middle.
2nd down: run up the middle.
3rd down: run up the middle.
4th down: punt.


NAH!!!
RUN Left, lose 3 yards
RUN right, lose 4 yards
RUN left, lose 6 yards
Punt into the middle of the field, let our vaunted ST give up big returns
Watch our D in meltdown
Repeat. Just reverse sequence of direction.
Von Miller destroys Hart, who goes on IR with an ankle injury...maybe even JJ.
Once Denver leads by 28, bring in Geno.
this game is unwatchable  
micky : 10/10/2017 9:22 pm : link
though...like coming across an accident while driving..you just have to check it out before moving along....
RE: At this point i'm almost expecting them to make a run.  
McNally's_Nuts : 10/10/2017 9:52 pm : link
In comment 13641639 guitarguybs12 said:
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Go like 9-1 the next 10 games, with needing a win the final game for the last wild card spot and lose it...just to really stick it to us.


I laughed.
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