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| Despite cries for a youth movement from the 0-5-and-sinking Giants, the reality is that Manning is likely to start every game this season, as long as he's healthy (which granted, given the state of the Giants' offensive line, could be a short-term thing). And that's absolutely the way it should be. It's not in deference to Manning either, or to his streak of consecutive starts -- which stands at a remarkable 204. It's because it's the best thing for the Giants. And maybe for Webb, too. |
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| And even if Webb was ready, why would the Giants put him in a situation like that? Most young quarterbacks struggle at the start of their careers. What's the benefit of putting him behind the same bad line that battered Manning, with maybe Lewis and Rudolph as his top receivers? That would give Webb no chance for any kind of success. |
So you admit the OL sucks but you want to throw a rookie QB behind it for shits and giggles?
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So keep playing Eli when the team is 0-10? Makes sense.
So you admit the OL sucks but you want to throw a rookie QB behind it for shits and giggles?
How about playing with no QB and going back to the single wing?
That's a sure fire way to solve your QB problem because Eli would ask out of this chicken sh*t outfit, and I wouldn't disagree with him.
That's a sure fire way to solve your QB problem because Eli would ask out of this chicken sh*t outfit, and I wouldn't disagree with him.
So? He's going to be 37. They need to think about the future, not his ego.
And try and keep up here. Not saying put him in now or "throw in the rookie". Give him more work in practice for weeks. Then give him 4-6 games at the end of the year.
It gives you film on the QB on an NFL field.
Rookie QBs usually play on overmatched teams. If he struggles and crumbles better to find out during a lost season. Then we move on. If he plays great ball then you probably don't want to spend a high pick on a college QB.
Elis a smart guy. I'd bet on him not having a problem taking a seat for a month on this 0-10 team.
I can guarantee Eli wants to keep his streak alive, and wants to play.
Agree with you on how the team likely plays it out —- but disagree on going that way.
Again nobody is saying bench Eli- but it is undeniable that it would be a good thing for the team to see Webb play several half’s of football whether he starts or not during an 2-14 season.
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for those wanting to see Webb in games this season. Perhaps he'll get some late season, late game burn.
Agree with you on how the team likely plays it out —- but disagree on going that way.
Again nobody is saying bench Eli- but it is undeniable that it would be a good thing for the team to see Webb play several half’s of football whether he starts or not during an 2-14 season.
Actually there are a few saying to bench Eli.
I wonder if coaches actually evaluate 3rd QB during the off season and practice?
I can guarantee Eli wants to keep his streak alive, and wants to play.
People seem to see Eli as some selfless powderpuff, at least when it suits them.
The idea that he'd be all good with the one thing he seems to openly acknowledge as taking a lot pride in being taken away from him, when he's already "lost" a lot of other things that were once in his favor, is laughable.
Once he's benched, there's going to be no going back and cutting him (or less likely trading him) is locked in. Which is how it should be anyway at this point, given the total organizational tear down needed.
Having a big problem with it does = selfish asshole. And that's not Eli.
I've said before Eli's feeling are entirely irrelevant and the team should subtract all sentimentality and give Webb the starts, but trying to act like he's not going to have them, that he's that selfless and big picture (that has no benefit to him, as he's not in it) over something that clearly means an enormous amount to him is ridiculous. I'm sure it would mostly be kept behind the scenes for image purposes, but he's likely going to be majorly pissed off if they take it from him on his way out and that's okay for him to feel that way, just like it's okay for the team to not care.
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for those wanting to see Webb in games this season. Perhaps he'll get some late season, late game burn.
Agree with you on how the team likely plays it out —- but disagree on going that way.
Again nobody is saying bench Eli- but it is undeniable that it would be a good thing for the team to see Webb play several half’s of football whether he starts or not during an 2-14 season.
Football teams tend to defer to the incumbent who has won Super Bowls, until they simply can no longer ignore it. Not sure Webb will elevate himself to the point of making it an issue either, it's not likely to happen for the sake of it.
The competitive stuff is out the window when your 0-10. Nothing he can do at that point. Step back and let a young player get PT.
My biggest fear in all of this is that Eli somehow gets this team to 5-11 or 6-10 and completely blows the draft position.
6-10 would mean that in the face of a team spiraling out of control and taking on a MUCH more brutal schedule, Eli can carve out a winning record of 6-5.
If that somehow happened than Eli would be certainly far better than he's shown this season.
Isn't it, though? This is the end of the Eli era any way you look at it.
Starting Webb or not, that part is a fact.
The competitive stuff is out the window when your 0-10. Nothing he can do at that point. Step back and let a young player get PT.
The competitive stuff is never out the window unless you're done and/or never wanted it that much in the first place.
He can have a big problem with it and it won't say a thing about him other than losing something that you take pride in hurts. Just like the team can tell him to get fucked, time's up, and it'll just say it's a business from their end.
Tank this season!!!! It's done, it's over!