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Eli Apple's remark is a bad indication

Pete from Woodstock : 10/11/2017 2:38 pm
Not sure if this was posted but....

Apple said Tuesday that he’s “uncertain” about his role on the team after saying he thought the “whole culture” of the team was to blame for the awful start to the season.

What the hell does he mean by the "whole culture" of the team? This is getting worse by the minute. Damn
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Holy shit  
TommytheElephant : 10/11/2017 2:40 pm : link
Wtf is going on
How about Eli Apple learns to turn  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/11/2017 2:42 pm : link
his fucking head from time to time to knock a ball away or even...*gasp* make an interception?

Fuck that dimwit.
Hey Pete  
JonC : 10/11/2017 2:42 pm : link
Yeah we saw it, he also apparently said the msg to him was "weird", which suggests to me perhaps the coaches aren't handling things up front and clearly with authority. Football is no place for soft on the field or on the sidelines.

It is becoming clearer by the day there's big cultural issues in the locker room and a lack of respect and confidence in the coach(es).
Eli needs to shut up  
AnskyJK : 10/11/2017 2:43 pm : link
Did you see Eli's effort on the screen pass last game? He's absolutely pathetic and totally gives up on plays.
Pete...I personally have been talking about the culture, malaise,  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 10/11/2017 2:44 pm : link
on the Giants for a while now and been blasted for it. But I certainly believe this is what Apple is referring to. I think there is now a country club atmosphere on this team.

I mean, if you are a player, and you look at Flowers, for example, or Jerry or Hart. Guys who week in and week out are absolutely terrible, can't pick up simple stunts, and yet they still start. So what does that say to you as a player.

It says, IMO, that there is no accountability...that if you happen to be the GM's boy, as Flowers appears to be, then you don't have to worry. That, to me, is the culture he is referring to.
Surprised?  
greek13 : 10/11/2017 2:46 pm : link
Wih anyone surprised by this? Losing breeds bad behavior
The entire team knows this year is shot with 5 loses- no
WR - an immobile QB - matched with a very weak OL

These guys are used to being very good at what they do. Being Among the two worst teams in the NFL - was not in the plan. Where is the off and on field leadership. Watch how they act when something happens? The shoulders droop, and they just jog off the field with a “here we go again” look. Some will rise up - we need it - peel away the rest.
When they have no confidence in the leader  
Rflairr : 10/11/2017 2:48 pm : link
Drip drip
culture  
penkap75 : 10/11/2017 2:49 pm : link
I think this is what happens when you have a bunch of millenials being led by a Gen-X'er.

I've been watching Giants Football since 84, and even named my first born after Eli. This is the weirdest fucking season ever.
Apple effort on screen  
AnskyJK : 10/11/2017 2:51 pm : link
Check out Apple on this screen pass
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RE: culture  
Matt in SGS : 10/11/2017 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13643216 penkap75 said:
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I think this is what happens when you have a bunch of millenials being led by a Gen-X'er.

I've been watching Giants Football since 84, and even named my first born after Eli. This is the weirdest fucking season ever.


I agree. What's Bud Grant doing? He didn't wear a coat going on to the field in the playoffs a couple of years ago. He'll whip these instagram loving pussies into shape.
RE: Eli needs to shut up  
BigBlue4You09 : 10/11/2017 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13643189 AnskyJK said:
Quote:
Did you see Eli's effort on the screen pass last game? He's absolutely pathetic and totally gives up on plays.


Obvious troll is obvious
RE: Apple effort on screen  
Vanzetti : 10/11/2017 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13643230 AnskyJK said:
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Check out Apple on this screen pass Eli Apple on Screen - ( New Window )


Yeah, I remember that play. Quite clear that he was avoiding contact. He did not want to have to take on the RB so he just rode the block out.

I hope Collins takes him to the woodshed when he sees that on film. It was still anybody's game at that point.
The effort by Apple  
Doomster : 10/11/2017 3:11 pm : link
is not there on the screen.....you can go back to the PHilly game and see lack of effort on tackling Eagle RB's, hit initially for losses, that became positives....

Spag's wearing some kind of teflon, that no one is questioning the effort from his defense?
RE: RE: culture  
81_Great_Dane : 10/11/2017 3:26 pm : link
In comment 13643233 Matt in SGS said:
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What's Bud Grant doing? He didn't wear a coat going on to the field in the playoffs a couple of years ago. He'll whip these instagram loving pussies into shape.
IIRC Bud Grant actually ran a pretty easy camp and was a "players' coach." And yet those Vikings teams were known for their toughness. Interesting that the two can go together.
RE: Eli needs to shut up  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/11/2017 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13643189 AnskyJK said:
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Did you see Eli's effort on the screen pass last game? He's absolutely pathetic and totally gives up on plays.

I don't think it's fair for you to make it about him.
I'm glad he is speaking out..  
prdave73 : 10/11/2017 3:49 pm : link
The culture is bad since day one. Nobody wants to admit it. Thus team is ran by inept coaches.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/11/2017 3:52 pm : link
Just a complete & utter mess.

I'm just laughing @ this point. This team needs to hit the reset button soon.
His role is to in some circumstances  
SomeFan : 10/11/2017 5:04 pm : link
make a good tackle instead of jumping out of the way.
All this is happening while the straw that stirs the drink is  
joe48 : 10/11/2017 8:30 pm : link
laying in a hospital bed.
The defensive effort is shocking  
djm : 10/11/2017 8:55 pm : link
Whole season is bizzaro world crazy. Unprecedented in some ways...

The team played well last season. Legitimally well on defense. It went so far south in such short time... just amazing.
RE: Apple effort on screen  
Diver_Down : 10/11/2017 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13643230 AnskyJK said:
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Check out Apple on this screen pass Eli Apple on Screen - ( New Window )


Ho Lee Fuk, did you film that play through a neighbor's window? I'm not sure you could get any further away.
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