When is the best time to do it?
We all know the Giants keep track of all players in the NFL and other leagues, in case the opportunity for Free Agency or trades occur. I would think they have a ranking of coaches and front office people as well, so they'd have lists to work with.
Some coaches won't be available until after the season (NFL), some coaches in college won't be available until after the college playoffs. If your target coach (and his preferred list of assistant coaches) won't be free until sometime next year, then it makes little sense to fire McAdoo during the bye, unless things go out of control. In that case, Spags gets promoted, but there are no major changes with the staff that season.
Same thing with the Front office; unless there is an available candidate during the season, you stay with Reese at least until the season is over.
But do you stay with Reese and the other staff until the draft is done, or do you fire him when the season is over? And is the time between the end of the season and Draft day enough for a new GM to prepare for the draft?
It makes sense on a few levels. It is to the incoming GMs advantage, as it is, in essence, a free year. He can get his feet on the ground and take time to evaluate everything from top to bottom slowly and thoroughly. But the failure would not be "on him" He gets to pick a coach or stay with the one he has.
Anyway, if we can get rid of Reese I will live with give mac adoodle another year. I don't think he is the guy, and would prefer to see a clean sweep, but A new GM would be enough progress to satiate my rage.
This ends all the rumors and you can start to have conversations and candidates are not making snap decisions, they can analyze the team and know what they will need to do.
Gives you a jump on the competition.
I think it will be a sought-after job with a top 5 pick and strong talent in a great football city.
For example, if the Giants win out and go 11-5 and make the playoffs, are you firing anyone? If no, you don't make a move yet. If yes, then you fire them now. Why keep guys twisting in the wind. Get a start on next year.
I don't think Mara has reached that point yet, and don't think he will even at the bye, which is why I don't think we see anything until December.
The best option is to fire Reese and let the scouts compile list of preferred talent.
The evaluation of current players began , at latest , last week. Compile list of who goes , who stays, and what FA available.
Mac Magoo future depends on how he handles this FUBAR, even if he only wins 3 games(Dallas, Philly,DC) decision should not be made on 2 completely different
seasons.
GM to be hired after all evaluations completed, and Mara etc can decide which direction to go. Then new GM can run draft process etc...
Because anyone getting fired in-season isn't likely to happen in the least barring some kind of catastrophic scandal.
I think McAdoo is green, has made bone headed mistakes, and I don't like him but I also don't hate him. He coached that team into the playoffs - albeit it was on Defense they still made it as a rookie head coach.
This latest twist with DRC shows a player being unprofessional and a coach acting professsional even with his job on a supposed hot seat. Good for him - if he goes down he keeps his principles.
It makes sense on a few levels. It is to the incoming GMs advantage, as it is, in essence, a free year. He can get his feet on the ground and take time to evaluate everything from top to bottom slowly and thoroughly. But the failure would not be "on him" He gets to pick a coach or stay with the one he has.
Anyway, if we can get rid of Reese I will live with give mac adoodle another year. I don't think he is the guy, and would prefer to see a clean sweep, but A new GM would be enough progress to satiate my rage.
That won't work here if the Giants are in position to get a franchise QB. You want to start over if that' sthe case.
Especially if McAdoo goes something like 2-14 or worse.
But in playing along, Reese&Co are gone; Mc gets the final year unless he really has lost the team(and it seems the wheels on the bus...).
But in playing along, Reese&Co are gone; Mc gets the final year unless he really has lost the team(and it seems the wheels on the bus...).
The quotes from guys like DRC and Landon Collins, along with the in game play, are pretty clear evidence McAdoo has lost the team.
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NOT presume that.
But in playing along, Reese&Co are gone; Mc gets the final year unless he really has lost the team(and it seems the wheels on the bus...).
The quotes from guys like DRC and Landon Collins, along with the in game play, are pretty clear evidence McAdoo has lost the team.
"He lost the team" was a popular go-to criticism for years with coughlin even as early as 2006 and that really didn't turn out to be true nearly every time people went to that well.
now about TC . The last guy I would have expected was Landon Collins . DRC has played well and has fought hard when
your slot corner makes 11 tackles it was like playing LB
and he is no spring chicken , He also isn't the first guy
to walk off the field .
Either way it's time to clean house I hope like hell that
the do it . I hated this past draft because of the way
the O-line was handled or lets say not handled .
Fans can do that C. E. O. 's can t.
You guys just want to dismiss last season. You rationalize it away by saying they won with defense. If MacDoo gets blamed for 0-5, he gets credit for 11-5, can t have it both ways.
If MacAdoo turns this mess around and goes say 6-5, with wins against Dallas, Philly, Washington and maybe Denver or K. C , wouldn't t you want him back.
However, unlikely as the above scenario is, you let the season play out.
If it continues to spiral, you make changes, and Mara will.
The scorn with which you speak of Giants ownership would lead one to believe they never had success.
now about TC . The last guy I would have expected was Landon Collins . DRC has played well and has fought hard when
your slot corner makes 11 tackles it was like playing LB
and he is no spring chicken , He also isn't the first guy
to walk off the field .
Either way it's time to clean house I hope like hell that
the do it . I hated this past draft because of the way
the O-line was handled or lets say not handled .
You sure you don't remember players speaking out about TC?
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
Exhibit C
There are plenty more examples. Tiki was fairly outspoken. Strahan had his moments of obvious discord early on in the TC era. I'll never understand why people have to resort to revisionist history to try to make their points. Is it just blind bias?
translation: accept the shit we are giving you
behind the scenes we will release the problems and unworkables and continue with the plan to get better.
Fans can do that C. E. O. 's can t.
You guys just want to dismiss last season. You rationalize it away by saying they won with defense. If MacDoo gets blamed for 0-5, he gets credit for 11-5, can t have it both ways.
If MacAdoo turns this mess around and goes say 6-5, with wins against Dallas, Philly, Washington and maybe Denver or K. C , wouldn't t you want him back.
However, unlikely as the above scenario is, you let the season play out.
If it continues to spiral, you make changes, and Mara will.
The scorn with which you speak of Giants ownership would lead one to believe they never had success.
I'm sorry but the logic "we were 11-5, the credit must go right to the HC! " is dumb. It's a rationalization to say they won b/c of the defense? You are aware they didn't score over 30 points once? How about having the best red zone defense in the NFL? They practically gave up on O and completely relied on the defense last year. Game management was good last year, i will give you that. The offensive minded HC gets judged on his offense moreso than the defense and that is completely fair. His offense sucks.