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New York Giants: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA As mentioned, I had the Giants trade up for a quarterback two weeks ago. They no longer have to do that, as they can pick the California signal-caller that the Browns don't want. Eli Manning turns 37 in January, and he's in obvious decline. The Giants will likely have a new front office, so they'll want their own franchise quarterback. Josh Rosen was once the projected No. 1 overall pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, but he's been passed by Sam Darnold, and maybe even Lamar Jackson. NFL coaches and owners are wary of the sort of things Rosen has discussed to the media, and his open views could hurt him. Scouts have told us that his teammates don't like him either, so that's a major strike against him. And for the cherry on top, even if his high school coach criticized him. However, Rosen's epic comeback against Texas A& M almost certainly has helped repair his draft stock a bit. |
Also a major talent. Bright kid playing for an awful coach in Mora. Love this pick.
The draft is about picking talent, not positions. No NFL GM is going to sit there and draft all OL for rounds 1-5, that's idiotic and completely ignores value.
so you reach for an olineman ratger than draft ypur qb for the bext 15 years?
makes sense
If any of the QBs would, he would.
no way....not worth the risk.
the kid from USC and Okl....one of the tackles....
personally, I would like to see more of Webb beforing giving up on him
A trade down for a slew of picks....as those QBs will be in high demand....and give Eli another real shot.
Take Darnold.
Take Darnold.
Yeah, he's a real moron.
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His statements are a complete non issue
But by all accounts there is no can't miss Andrew Luck in this class so it gets complicated (maybe that changes over the course of this college season).
In that case you plug what you can via FA/trade - also complicated given the Giants' cap situation (even after likely DRC, BM, etc cuts) - and go BPA which is likely Barkley.
The Giants are not going to fix the Oline in a season. Accept it. This is what happens from multiple years of shitty drafting. They're going to have MINIMUM 2 screaming needs on the Oline, probably 3, maybe 4. Depending on Jones & Flowers development, and Pugh/Richberg. The goal is the reach serviceable Oline status.
Nate Solder + a solid draft will be a nice off-season for a bad team.
Yep. You see a franchise QB you take one, unless you already have one (and even then sometimes you do anyway)
barkley...nothing special...don't mean to be rude but are you blind?
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When have we had a RB close to his talent level? You have to go back to Hampton to be even in the ballpark. Barkley is my pick all day Saturday and twice on Sunday if we finish in the top 3.
I have never seen the kind of combination of speed power and
moves he can Truck you jump over you and speed past you .
He can catch the ball as well . Hell in two more year's Webb
could be the guy and I would consider moving OBJ if the
price was right say a high #1 #2 and and a quality O-line starter . you could use the 2nd #1 and get a true LT
with two #2's remaining get an edge rusher and another CB or LB . I know its a dream but if Webb emerges we have
the ability to sign a good FA to boot .
Much depends on how well Webb pans out .
You still pissed we didn't pick Robert Gallery?
His statements are a complete non issue
I think this qualifies as a massive over simplification.
I also fail to see what Rosen's comments, none of which have been made recently, have to do with being politically progressive. He isn't the first player, left or right leaning, to think NCAA players should be paid.
Despite popular belief, the OL isn't in it's current state because they didn't draft players; They took the wrong players, at the wrong time. They reached for first round OL out of desperation. Flowers and Pugh were both reaches. Flowers sucks, and Pugh is average at best, not first round value.
Now you want to do the same thing?
I personally think much of Rosen's comments are overblown, the problem is no NFL team wants their qb tweeting and weighing in on issues. That would be a distraction in today's nfl. But Rosen is having one impressive year, and already has 17 tds and only 5 ints on the year. If you watch ucla, you'll see a team that is short on talent, has no defense, and few threats in the passing game. Rosen spends all game running for his life, but still puts up impressive stats while usually leading his team to a win. No one can question Rosen's arm, just his head.
Problem for the Giants is they can't have a rookie QB come in and be overwhelmed, in awe of the moment, say the wrong things publicly, or unable to lead veteran players. Darnold strikes me as a QB who still has maturing to do in regards to his game. Rosen strikes me as a QB who has maturing to do off the field.
Which one do you want sitting behind Eli for a year? I'm not convinced Darnold or Rosen are a perfect fit for the Giants. And I'm not convinced that Jackson, Mayfield, or Josh Allen are at the same pro talent level as Darnold and Rosen. So does that lead to Saquon Barkley? Perhaps it does.
I dont know who we should pick but picking him wont be a mistake.
People will say it doesnt matter how good he is behind a bad offensive line but we have already seen the difference in our running game with a 4th round pick and Orleans Darkwa getting carries instead of Perkins.
I would jump on Barkley and then take OL with 4 of our next 6 picks. We also need to address LB.
You don't think Barber was better than Hampton?
Different era, both great, I think I'd take Barber though for his versatility and he definitely learned to run hard as his career progressed.
I would jump on Barkley and then take OL with 4 of our next 6 picks. We also need to address LB.
two anomaly super bowl winners, the Ravens and the Bucs (and Brad Johnson wasn't as bad as Dilfer) is what you want to use as your blueprint for success?
If there is a legit franchise QB it's a no-brainer to me you take the QB.
No chance in hell I take a RB top 5. I wouldn't take Walter Payton at 5. RB's break down.
I can't recall the last team with a top/highly picked RB that won a SB.
yet you can look through the Super Bowl winning QB's the past 15 years or so and other than Brady and Wilson, all 1st round picks.
Then instantly they revert to grasping for sexy skills players. Really? Seriously? Ooosh, guys.
Because after the 2018 draft college football programs will no longer field QBs?...At all...ever? Amirite?
That doesn't seem Knicks - like to you? Like, 20 years of dismal failure Knicks trades?
The new GM should be given the following:
Dictatorial Powers. (rumor has it that Chris Mara secretly wants to run the marketing department anyway, that's probably where the untouched monetary up$ide is).
GM should have Dictatorial powers over the selection of coaches .
With -coaches-, the HC, having dictatorial powers once the season starts. Without any influence at all from upstairs until season ends. None.
BUT...one rule for the GM. ONE RULE!
- No.New.Fucking. QBs. ...or WRs. Until. we. have. the fucking. best. OL. in the game. None.
UDFAs...ok. UDFA wrs and QBs and street players. Fine.
That will light a fire under their balls.
Agree but it really is the only positive we have! I just hope Mara surprises us & cleans house. Then we'd have something else that is positive to talk about!
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Agree but it really is the only positive we have! I just hope Mara surprises us & cleans house. Then we'd have something else that is positive to talk about!
Short term pain for long term gain.
Worked out great for the Browns, who are still Qb-less
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Worked out great for the Browns, who are still Qb-less
Yeah, passing on Carson Wentz looks like a classic Cleveland move. May turn out the same with Deshaun Watson.
You essentially dispose of a 3rd rd. draft pick with the verdict still out.
Eli still has 2.3 seconds to release a pass.
Yards after contact for the RB, whoever it is, starts 1 yard behind the line of scrimmage.
I don't think this solves our problems.
Yes. I don't know why this is even a matter of dispute.