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Sean Payton,

djstat : 10/11/2017 10:46 pm
Rumors every year its his last in New Orleans...I for one would love to see him here but it drives me crazy the defense in NO has been awful since 2010.

McAdoo has lost the team...Hi Pat Hanlen
What is the fascination with this guy?  
robbieballs2003 : 10/11/2017 10:49 pm : link
You realize he is a HC and not just an offensive coordinator, right? He is responsible foe the defense.
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/11/2017 10:49 pm : link
is a douchebag who had no issue having Greg Robinson on his staff.

If people think Fassel fucked up with the boat thing, Payton has about 3 skeletons in his closet worse than that.

Plus, he's done nothing without a Brees in his prime.
arcarsenal : 10/11/2017 10:50 pm : link
The Saints have been a mess for a while now. Brees is really the only thing that has been keeping that team from being abysmal. But in a lot of ways, they're like us in that the team just hasn't seemed to get right over the last handful of years.

Since 2011, they have one 11-5 season and the rest have all been sub-.500 campaigns.

Much like.. us.

I'd love to have Payton back as an OC but I wouldn't want him running this whole thing here. I suspect someone else will offer him a HC job.
Head coach who will probably finish with his  
an_idol_mind : 10/11/2017 10:50 pm : link
fourth straight losing season and who was complicit with Gregg Williams' bounty program.
This is a guy..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/11/2017 10:55 pm : link
who stole Vicodin from the team.

Not exactly NYG HC material.
I could see this..  
Sean : 10/11/2017 10:56 pm : link
Ownership likes HC's with NYG background. After being burned by a rookie HC, we will want experience. Offensive minded HC is ideal for a franchise QB. I think Payton needs a change of scenery too. Makes sense.
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/11/2017 11:05 pm : link
was suspended for a year for his involvement in bounties. Got caught stealing Vicodin. Had a mistress that wasn't quite so hidden as most. And there are a couple of other things that didn't make the news.

If people think he's even a candidate here, I don't know what to tell you.
The Giants like to hire guys they know.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/11/2017 11:08 pm : link
It's very unusual for them to hire a HC with no history in the organization. They've done it something like twice since WWII. I looked it up and posted it on here once. It's a clear trend, but it's not a hard-and-fast rule.

Sean Payton has a Giants connection, and he fits the current trend toward offensive-minded coaches. So at a glance it makes sense. I think Payton is overrated and will never again match his earlier success as an NFL coach. But he may be a bad idea whose time has come.

I think John Mara was (and maybe still is) expecting Sullivan to be a future Giants HC, but I don't think that's coming anytime soon.

I don't have the energy to do the research right now, but what other offense-minded coaches with a Giants connection are out there? That's probably the list they keep on file.
Not the worst idea if he's canned  
Overseer : 10/11/2017 11:13 pm : link
but that's mostly because HC options are thin.

If McAdoo's fired (something I'm not entirely sold on), Giants need to look first & foremost for a high floor guy to steady this sinking ship...someone with HC experience who at the very least you know won't be in over his head. Payton is clearly that, although beyond that is unclear. And the shadiness factor will be indeed salient for the Giants' ownership.

Gun to my head, the NYG coach in 2018 is Ben McAdoo.

bradshaw44 : 10/11/2017 11:51 pm : link
No thank you  
Matt M. : 10/11/2017 11:53 pm : link
on Payton.
RE: Payton..  
Mr. Bungle : 10/12/2017 12:42 am : link
In comment 13644558 FatMan in Charlotte said:
is a douchebag who had no issue having Greg Robinson on his staff.

Do you mean Gregg Williams?
I can't stand Payton  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/12/2017 7:27 am : link
I don't want to see him with the Giants. I'd rather see Bill Cowher here, but doubt it'll ever happen.
I don t think Payton  
joeinpa : 10/12/2017 7:54 am : link
Is that good without the baggage
joeinpa : 10/12/2017 7:55 am : link
Grown past the immaturity that cost him his first job, he d be good
RE: RE: Payton..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/12/2017 7:58 am : link
In comment 13645003 Mr. Bungle said:
In comment 13644558 FatMan in Charlotte said:


is a douchebag who had no issue having Greg Robinson on his staff.

Do you mean Gregg Williams?

Yes. Williams.

Good catch.
stop it with Peyton. they're candy soft now, they'll be tissue  
Victor in CT : 10/12/2017 9:01 am : link
soft with him. I n case you forgot, the Giants don't play in a dome.
This again  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/12/2017 9:09 am : link
The Maras blackballed Fassel, I don't think they are going to take this guy on with his track record. Plus he's at the top of Jerry's list if Garrett doesn't make the Super Bowl.

He's been an awful HC - why would we want him  
PatersonPlank : 10/12/2017 9:42 am : link
Its just a name people here know.
Don't want him...  
Dinger : 10/12/2017 11:07 am : link
Who else would they get? I REALLY didn't think the Giants would fire Macadoo this season, but the DRC thing seems to be like they are at the tipping point. If it doesn't happen at bye week , I think chances are that they do clean house. GM candidates? Coaching candidates. Please no one mention Cowher or Belichick. Its not gonna happen. And as much as I liked Payton and Fox when they were here and for the success they had afterwards, I don't want them. I do not like him but Harbaugh? more importantly, a good GM who knows how to build a front office and scouting department.....
What happened to Smith from the Falcons?  
Ivan15 : 10/12/2017 2:01 pm : link
Wasn't he under consideration when the Giants picked McAdoo?

Another thought. I only remember two Giant HCs with previous experienc  
Ivan15 : 10/12/2017 2:10 pm : link
Reeves and Coughlin. Both were successful elsewhere. Reeves didn't work out because he and George Young didn't get along. Can't say I blame Reeves for that, except that he knew the rules coming in.

Coughlin had success obviously because he knew the mistake he made with the Jags was trying to wear two hats.

The other HCs were hired with no NFL HC experience.

I could imagine how the new GM will hire the new HC.
RE: What is the fascination with this guy?  
Josh in the City : 10/12/2017 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13644557 robbieballs2003 said:
You realize he is a HC and not just an offensive coordinator, right? He is responsible foe the defense.

Better than an offensive head coach that only has a good defense and a historically dreadful offense, right?
RE: What happened to Smith from the Falcons?  
Giantology : 10/12/2017 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13645759 Ivan15 said:
Wasn't he under consideration when the Giants picked McAdoo?

He's Tampa Bay's DC
Reeves sucked because Reeves sucked. He wanted to play finesse  
Victor in CT : 10/12/2017 2:38 pm : link
AFC (for the era) football in a divison and conference full of schoolyard bullies.
fansince71 : 10/12/2017 2:42 pm : link
You mean Pills Payton...
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