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superspynyg : 10/12/2017 9:03 am
Game 1 10/13 Friday night 8 pm at Houston on Fox Sports 1
Game 2 10/14 Saturday 4 pm at Houston in Fox
Game 3 10/16 Monday 8 pm In da Bronx on Fox Sports 1
Game 4 10/17 Tuesday da Bronx time TBD on Fox/Fox Sports 1
Game 5 10/18 Wednesday da Bronx time TBD on Fox/Fox Sports 1 (if nessassary)
Game 6 10/20 Friday At Houston TBD on Fox/FS1 (if nessassary)
Game 7 10/21 Saturday at Houston TBD on Fox/FS1 (if nessassary)


No game on Sunday, so we all get to see the Giants/Denver blood bath on Sunday night. We all k ow were going to watch.



Question...  
M.S. : 10/12/2017 9:24 am : link

...what's your guess as to the Yankee starters through first 4 games:

10/13 Montgomery?
10/14 Tanaka?
10/16 Severino?
10/17 CC Sabathia?

8 pm baseball games  
dune69 : 10/12/2017 9:25 am : link
by the time I calm down it's well past 1 am. Not so good for sleep but I wouldn't have it any other way.
M.S.  
DaddyM89 : 10/12/2017 9:27 am : link
Why would montgomery pitch? It'll be either one of two ways imo

Tanaka
Severino
Grey
CC

or

Grey
Severino
Tanaka
CC


Depends on if whether Girardi wants tanaka to start at home. If not the first lineup everyone is on full rest.
Gray/Sevy/Tanaka/CC would be my guess.  
bceagle05 : 10/12/2017 9:28 am : link
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I hope Joe Buck is jumping on board with Smoltz for this next round. "Stat" Vasgersian is a little much.
Is Gray injured?  
superspynyg : 10/12/2017 9:28 am : link
I might go

Gray
Sevy (will have had 5 days off tues wedn thurs fri)
Tanaka
CC
man, it's been almost 10 hours since the game!  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2017 9:32 am : link
Time for a retrospective!










BTW, almost as good as stealing a home run is that he stole it from that loser Zack Hample (yellow shirt).














Maybe I was being too harsh about Gray given his...  
M.S. : 10/12/2017 9:38 am : link

..bad start in Cleveland Game 1.

Thus, my substituting Montgomery for Gray.

But I guess it might be a little unfair to Montgomery to throw him out there as Game 1 starter at his age... and better to go with the experienced Gray.
I think the Yanks MUST win at least one of Game 1 and 2  
rich in DC : 10/12/2017 9:38 am : link
For that reason, I think they have the best chance of winning if they go Tanaka in Game 1, Severino Game 2, Grey in Game 3. Then have CC pitch Game 4- then back to Tanaka and work through again until the end of the series- though if it gets to game 5, they can choose to go CC for a short start on 4 days rest or take their chances with Grey.

What CC showed us last night is that experience does matter in a high pressure game. Tanaka has significant post season experience in both Japan and in the U.S. I would also point out that he was the SP in the Wild Card game against Houston a couple years ago.

Severino and Grey are not very experienced in the "big game" situations. Severino did melt down in the Wild Card game, though he recovered his footing in Game 4 against the Indians. Grey did pitch well in 2 playoff starts in 2013- but really struggled with what appeared to be a bad case of nerves in key games down the stretch and against Cleveland. I might be a little wary of letting Grey go in game 1 based on his last several start.
meant game 7  
rich in DC : 10/12/2017 9:39 am : link
to choose between grey and CC
Great montage  
Sec 103 : 10/12/2017 9:40 am : link
thanks for posting
I just don't see them starting Tanaka in Houston if they can avoid it  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2017 10:19 am : link
I know a game 3 start means he'd be slated to start game 7 in Houston, but cross that bridge when you come to it. As I said prior to the ALDS, his home/road split is so enormous (3.22/6.48) that they should do everything they can to avoid pitching him on the road.
RE: man, it's been almost 10 hours since the game!  
Mad Mike : 10/12/2017 10:28 am : link
In comment 13645235 Greg from LI said:
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Time for a retrospective!

Let's not forget this magical moment.




expect a high scoring affair  
spike : 10/12/2017 10:35 am : link
Astros have a 3-2 series lead against the Yankees
The yanks accomplished the hardest part  
superspynyg : 10/12/2017 10:42 am : link
Hitting in big games vs top arms. We took down Kluber and Bauer.

We can hit Kuechal and Verlander.
I agree they'll try to keep Tanaka pitching at home  
JoeMoney19 : 10/12/2017 10:51 am : link
Something like Gray, Sevy, Tanaka, CC to start the series seems to make the most sense to me. No way they are starting Montgomery unless something has gone very wrong.

I mentioned this in the game thread but zero hits by the Yankees DH in the entire ALDS. Zero. We'll have to see what the final roster is, but something has to change there.
Kahnle and Green could be big for us in games 1 and 2  
mfsd : 10/12/2017 10:52 am : link
Robertson and Chapman emptied the tank again in game 5 and only have 1 day of rest today. I'm sure Joe would like to avoid using them for more than one inning early in the series if he can
RE: I just don't see them starting Tanaka in Houston if they can avoid it  
section125 : 10/12/2017 10:53 am : link
In comment 13645327 Greg from LI said:
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I know a game 3 start means he'd be slated to start game 7 in Houston, but cross that bridge when you come to it. As I said prior to the ALDS, his home/road split is so enormous (3.22/6.48) that they should do everything they can to avoid pitching him on the road.


This^^^^
Tanaka's home/road splits  
Kyle in NY : 10/12/2017 10:53 am : link
are so extreme, I think he almost surely is going to start game 3.

Gray, Severino (full rest), Tanaka, CC would seem to make sense to me
The Yankees can hit Keuchel?  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2017 11:03 am : link
Since when? In 6 career starts against them, he's only allowed 30 hits in 44.2 IP and a 1.41 ERA. 45 Ks versus 6 walks for a K/BB of 7.50. Those are actually his best numbers against any team he has more than two starts against. Not saying they won't hit him, but history isn't on their side in that one.

He also has been a far better pitcher at home than on the road both over his career and in 2017. I feel very good about the Yanks' chances against the rest of their staff, but Keuchel gives them fits.
RE: 8 pm baseball games  
Del Shofner : 10/12/2017 11:08 am : link
In comment 13645223 dune69 said:
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by the time I calm down it's well past 1 am. Not so good for sleep but I wouldn't have it any other way.


Same here - in a little bit of a fog this morning but in a good way! Nice to have one team winning, and in such a comeback style with young players.
I guess I'm a bit contrarian  
bigbluehoya : 10/12/2017 11:11 am : link
But I think w the way the schedule sets up with the last NY home game being game 5, it lends itself to starting Tanaka in Game 1, as opposed to simply conceding that he likely only starts once.

Start him in Game 1 with a super short leash, Gray on backup.
Sevy Game 2
CC Game 3
Gray Game 4
Tanaka Game 5
Sevy Game 6
CC Game 7

RE: The Yankees can hit Keuchel?  
Stu11 : 10/12/2017 11:13 am : link
In comment 13645401 Greg from LI said:
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Since when? In 6 career starts against them, he's only allowed 30 hits in 44.2 IP and a 1.41 ERA. 45 Ks versus 6 walks for a K/BB of 7.50. Those are actually his best numbers against any team he has more than two starts against. Not saying they won't hit him, but history isn't on their side in that one.

He also has been a far better pitcher at home than on the road both over his career and in 2017. I feel very good about the Yanks' chances against the rest of their staff, but Keuchel gives them fits.

This
The guy owns us. The one hope I have is that Keuchel kills us with his nasty breaking stuff and after these past 5 games if we are not used to hitting nasty breaking stuff now I don't know when we'll ever be. Also we've had little to no success with Kluber prior to the last week and smacked him around like a rag doll 2 straight starts so maybe this group is different...
Kaplan tweeted this last night  
JoeMoney19 : 10/12/2017 11:16 am : link
Yankees hitters vs. Keuchel & Verlander



"This one was for for Joe"  
Stan in LA : 10/12/2017 11:28 am : link
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"This one is for Joe," Frazier said of embattled Yankees manager Joe Girardi. "He got a lot of criticism after that second game, and we talked a lot, me and him. I couldn't be happier for him. I couldn't be happier for him."

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They will hit Verlander.  
section125 : 10/12/2017 11:39 am : link
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Keuchel and his off speed stuff is what gives them trouble
RE: The Yankees can hit Keuchel?  
jintz4life : 10/12/2017 11:43 am : link
In comment 13645401 Greg from LI said:
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Since when? In 6 career starts against them, he's only allowed 30 hits in 44.2 IP and a 1.41 ERA. 45 Ks versus 6 walks for a K/BB of 7.50. Those are actually his best numbers against any team he has more than two starts against. Not saying they won't hit him, but history isn't on their side in that one.

He also has been a far better pitcher at home than on the road both over his career and in 2017. I feel very good about the Yanks' chances against the rest of their staff, but Keuchel gives them fits.


the historical stats are irrelevant considering how much the lineup has turned over

judge/sanchez/gardner/bird have a combined 11 at bats against him
RE: They will hit Verlander.  
bigbluehoya : 10/12/2017 11:51 am : link
In comment 13645501 section125 said:
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Keuchel and his off speed stuff is what gives them trouble


My hope is that having seen Bauer and Kluber twice each in the last 10 days will help the approach versus Keuchel.

Judge and Sanchez really need to have better swings and better ABs than they have.
still on the post-game high  
RasputinPrime : 10/12/2017 12:09 pm : link
I think we see Gray, Sevy, Tanaka, CC.

Houston is going to be a tough task. I know the indians had an amazing run but we all knew throughout the season that Houston was the most stacked team in the league - and that was before Verlander joined them.
I like  
BocaGiants91 : 10/12/2017 12:18 pm : link
Gray, Sevy on road Tanaka at home. Should also be mentioned Tanaka on more than normal rest is a lot different than Tanaka on normal rest, also home road split extreme as mentioned , game 4 can be CC and bullpen on standby, I have no prob with that.

Those stats on Kuechel and Veroander are from baseball reference.com. Yes they hit Verlander, historically they havenít hit Kuechel...however , 2017 Kuechel is not 2015 Cy Young winner Kuechel , heís not been as good , has showed up in small spurts but not the same.

Yankees bullpen is a huge advantage this series, Houston bullpen besides Devenski and Giles can be had. They have Clippard for crying out loud he stinks on ice.

Houstonís lineup is loaded but as we all know good pitching beats good hitting this time of year, and hopefully the Yankees bats get loud this series, Houstonís pitching is not as good as Clevelandís imho. Although Kluber didnít look like Kluber and may have had a back problem.

Overall, I am hopeful this is a complete house money series they arenít supposed to be here this year. Cashman is to be commended the trades for some key veteran depth hastened this process up some. I am also sure Girardi learned a valuable lesson and will be better for it. In the postseason you challenge, not like you can cash those challenges in for a prize. Personally I think postseason should have no challenge limits due to the importance of the games.
Of course we are going to watch the Giants.....  
Tom [Giants fan] : 10/12/2017 12:48 pm : link
they are only on 16 days out of the whole year. No matter how awful we still miss them the other 349 days (350 every four years).
RE: I guess I'm a bit contrarian  
Gmen4Life21 : 10/12/2017 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13645415 bigbluehoya said:
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But I think w the way the schedule sets up with the last NY home game being game 5, it lends itself to starting Tanaka in Game 1, as opposed to simply conceding that he likely only starts once.

Start him in Game 1 with a super short leash, Gray on backup.
Sevy Game 2
CC Game 3
Gray Game 4
Tanaka Game 5
Sevy Game 6
CC Game 7


This. First person I saw who suggested CC Game 3. That's what I'd do. I want the chance for him to go twice. Don't start him Game 4.

I'd also start Tanaka Game 1 for the reason you said. I much prefer Tanaka going at home but the way series lays out he's only (potentially) getting one home start and I'd rather him going twice than Gray. The decision on a Game 1 starter I can see going either way.
RE: I agree they'll try to keep Tanaka pitching at home  
TJ : 10/12/2017 1:51 pm : link
In comment 13645377 JoeMoney19 said:
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I mentioned this in the game thread but zero hits by the Yankees DH in the entire ALDS. Zero. We'll have to see what the final roster is, but something has to change there.


Maybe Frazier?
RE: Of course we are going to watch the Giants.....  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/12/2017 1:52 pm : link
In comment 13645634 Tom [Giants fan] said:
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they are only on 16 days out of the whole year. No matter how awful we still miss them the other 349 days (350 every four years).


Speak for yourself. Watching a Yankees ALCS game over this trash Giants team is an easy choice.
RE: I agree they'll try to keep Tanaka pitching at home  
TJ : 10/12/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13645377 JoeMoney19 said:
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I mentioned this in the game thread but zero hits by the Yankees DH in the entire ALDS. Zero. We'll have to see what the final roster is, but something has to change there.


Maybe Frazier?
remember when they faced Cliff Lee in 2009...  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/12/2017 1:57 pm : link
scary shit... but if its 1 pitcher who scares, there are 3 more they have to face...
My rotation  
DennyInDenville : 10/12/2017 2:01 pm : link
Gm1: Gray
Gm2: Severino
Gm3: Tanaka
Gm4: CC
Gm5: Gray
Gm6: Severino
Gm7: CC on 3 days rest or Tanaka?????
Interestingly in his  
section125 : 10/12/2017 2:09 pm : link
option year, not going with Tanaka in game 1 when he is on schedule doesn't bode well for his opt out. If your team is unwilling to start you on the road in the ALCS, maybe you will not get the bigger bucks...

In a perfect world it should be:
Tanaka
Severino
Gray
CC
Tanaka
Severino
Option CC/Gray game 7...
I'd say that performance the other night proved he's worthy  
Kyle in NY : 10/12/2017 2:20 pm : link
Has nothing to do with the opt-out, just a matter of what gives the team the best chance to win. And he's been much better at home. Have to also consider that waiting until game 3 for Gray would give him about 10 days between starts. That's a long wait.
I'd prefer Gray in game 4, too  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2017 2:21 pm : link
But man, that's a long layoff. Kind of setting him up to fail in that situation.
I'd go Tanaka in game 1  
illmatic : 10/12/2017 2:32 pm : link
he still gets a home start in that scenario assuming they don't get swept. If he wants to get paid the big bucks then make him earn it and have him show he can pitch well in a game 1 on the road against a great team. That's why they signed him and this is the time for him to show he can do it.

I also don't trust Gray in a game 5 scenario unless they're somehow up 3-1. It scares me to think he's what they have going if they're down 3-1 which is certainly possible against this Astros team. Yeah, Tanaka hasn't been good on the road but if it's a long series, he'll have to make a road start either way. Might as well get it out of the way early and (hopefully) ensure that one of your best starters gets two starts. It would be Tanaka/Severino/CC/Gray for me.
Looking like  
BocaGiants91 : 10/12/2017 3:24 pm : link
Gm1 : Tanaka, Gm 2: Gray, Gm3: Severino Gm4: CC , Gm5: Tanaka , Gm6: Gray , Gm7: Severino , of course can all change if circumstances dictate that
I'd go Tanaka too  
Pete in 'Vliet : 10/12/2017 3:43 pm : link
Grey is consistantly ok. But Sevy, CC and now Tanaka have the ability to shut down a team, if they are on. Tanaka is pitching well right now. I'd give him a shot at it.
Did they announce the ALCS  
section125 : 10/12/2017 3:45 pm : link
roster yet?
RE: Looking like  
Tesla : 10/12/2017 3:47 pm : link
In comment 13645888 BocaGiants91 said:
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Gm1 : Tanaka, Gm 2: Gray, Gm3: Severino Gm4: CC , Gm5: Tanaka , Gm6: Gray , Gm7: Severino , of course can all change if circumstances dictate that


No way they wait to game 3 to pitch Severino. That means he only pitches 1 games unless it goes to a game 7. Have to pitch your best pitchers the most often, so Tanaka and Severino should pitch the first 2 games.
It will go Tanaka, Severino, Sabathia,Gray  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2017 5:59 pm : link
Hope Tanaka is up to the challenge.
Girardi  
mitch300 : 10/12/2017 6:12 pm : link
really pressing his luck. Pitching Tanaka on the road and on regular days rest. I would pitch him game 3 at the stadium.
Tanaka on four days?  
chopperhatch : 10/12/2017 6:19 pm : link
Not sure i likes that.
RE: Girardi  
DennyInDenville : 10/12/2017 6:21 pm : link
In comment 13646113 mitch300 said:
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really pressing his luck. Pitching Tanaka on the road and on regular days rest. I would pitch him game 3 at the stadium.

Agreed, also CC/Gray back to back at the stadium is scary. Sanchez/Gray are not on the same page and there's trust issues with them. I would DH Sanchez game 4 and play Romine to get better numbers out of Gray

However..

1.) Tanaka has been lights out past 2 starts
2.) Tanaka knows he can earn another $50-$60 free million dollars minimum by pitching a gem.
3.) the bullpen will be ready to take over immediately fully rested and could then option Tanaka to pitch game 4 perhaps

The problem is CC is better on the road, Tanaka better at home, and Sanchez can't catch Sonny Gray.

Let's see if we fix those 3 issues , which is entirely possible
RE: Girardi  
BigBlueShock : 10/12/2017 6:22 pm : link
In comment 13646113 mitch300 said:
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really pressing his luck. Pitching Tanaka on the road and on regular days rest. I would pitch him game 3 at the stadium.

His second start would be at home. He's gonna have to pitch on the road at some point, unless it's a short series
RE: RE: Girardi  
mitch300 : 10/12/2017 6:41 pm : link
In comment 13646121 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13646113 mitch300 said:


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really pressing his luck. Pitching Tanaka on the road and on regular days rest. I would pitch him game 3 at the stadium.


His second start would be at home. He's gonna have to pitch on the road at some point, unless it's a short series

Good point.
Rotation  
Stan in LA : 10/12/2017 7:01 pm : link

Game One: Tanaka vs. Dallas Keuchel
Game Two: Severino vs. Justin Verlander
Game Three: Sabathia vs. TBA
Games Four: Gray vs. TBA
RE: Rotation  
section125 : 10/12/2017 7:26 pm : link
In comment 13646154 Stan in LA said:
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Game One: Tanaka vs. Dallas Keuchel
Game Two: Severino vs. Justin Verlander
Game Three: Sabathia vs. TBA
Games Four: Gray vs. TBA


As per RAB...

I like it, even with the bad splits for Tanaka. Minute Maid Field is a fairly close approximation to Yankee Stadium but a bit shallower in left. Tanaka needs to nut up and go pitch for pitch with Keuchel..
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