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NFT: Mets Mgr search and Wright Update

pjcas18 : 10/12/2017 10:01 am
Mets to interview Alex Cora as part of their first round of interviews.

I think all 4 teams (Mets, Red Sox, Tigers and Phillies) with Mgr openings plan to interview Cora, but the word here in Boston is he's the odds on favorite to be the next Red Sox manager.

Also Mets related with regards to Wright, his latest back surgery was reportedly successful and a surgeon familiar with the procedure thinks this surgery can realistically lessen the pressure and pain on his back, and according to Wright the shoulder and back surgery were both in an effort to allow him to play pain free.

So, those people expecting or wanting (and many Mets fans were) Wright to retire I don't think you'll get your wish.

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...When Wright underwent a laminotomy procedure on his lower-back, his third surgery in less than two years, many fans again wondered (again) if this was the end. But Dr. Andrew Hecht, orthopedic surgeon and chief of spine surgery for the Mount Sinai Health System, said this procedure isn't the end for Wright. It's quite the opposite, in that it gives him a better chance of getting back to playing.

Dr. Hecht has not treated Wright but is familiar with Dr. Robert Watkins, Wright's surgeon in Los Angeles, and has performed laminotomy procedures on several athletes, including members of the Jets and Islanders. According to Dr. Hecht, the recovery period is quick and the success rate is high. It will greatly improve Wright's chances of getting back on the field and greatly reduce the pain of spinal stenosis.....


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....He's aware of Wright's disk fusion surgery and his rotator cuff surgery, which will still take 6-9 months to rehab, and said this procedure isn't related, nor should it have any effect on his shoulder.

Dr. Hecht explains it as a choice an athlete makes when they have come to the end of the conservative road with the treatment of spinal stenosis. Non-operative procedures are always preferred over going under the knife, but a laminotomy is the result of Wright having exhausted all options when it comes to the management of his spinal stenosis.

"We see this quite a bit in athletes and many of them have no symptoms at all, but occasionally you see someone symptomatic, like David Wright," Dr. Hecht said. "Dr. Watkins is a terrific surgeon, just very familiar with the management of this particular problem. He had all of the conservative treatment he was going to have. He had physical therapy extensively, he had spinal injections, he had anti-inflammatories -- a lot of these things typically will get somebody out of pain and back into participation in sport.

"But sometimes, despite all of the best efforts of the greatest doctors, somebody doesn't get better with conservative treatment.

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f Boston  
spike : 10/12/2017 10:03 am : link
for getting Alex Cora potentially. I want no part of Brad Ausmus

Best of luck to Wright for not giving up. Most players would have called it a career and moved on to something else.
I don't WANT him to retire  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/12/2017 10:05 am : link
but I also don't want him to keep trying to come back and destroy his quality of life. Reading about Tony Romo not be able to play with his kids because of his back issues before he finally retired is not something I'd wish on anyone.
What about the guy that Boston just let go  
allstarjim : 10/12/2017 10:09 am : link
John Farrell? You think Alderson will interview him?
No  
spike : 10/12/2017 10:12 am : link
reportedly the Mets have no interest in Farrell
Everything I have read  
Rory : 10/12/2017 10:13 am : link
is that its either Cora or Hale

and Kevin Long will be retained as the hitting coach

Honestly..  
ryanmkeane : 10/12/2017 10:14 am : link
why is the Wright thing still a thing? Are Mets fans somehow hoping that he returns? I'm confused by this.
I have no opinion  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2017 10:22 am : link
on Wright retiring. Anyone who can help the team is fine with me.

Some fans on here would say "Wright isn't the kind of player to string his career along collecting a paycheck, if he can't play he'll retire"

I still feel the money is too much for him to walk away.
RE: Honestly..  
schabadoo : 10/12/2017 10:23 am : link
In comment 13645317 ryanmkeane said:
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why is the Wright thing still a thing? Are Mets fans somehow hoping that he returns? I'm confused by this.


If you're being serious, it's because he has a guaranteed contract thru 2020. I don't believe any doctor has told him he can't play.
RE: I have no opinion  
Jay on the Island : 10/12/2017 10:25 am : link
In comment 13645333 pjcas18 said:
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on Wright retiring. Anyone who can help the team is fine with me.

Some fans on here would say "Wright isn't the kind of player to string his career along collecting a paycheck, if he can't play he'll retire"

I still feel the money is too much for him to walk away.

I used to think differently but now I am starting to believe it. He has nothing to prove to anyone he needs to retire. He will have plenty of job opportunities either in broadcasting or in the Mets organization. Even if he is pain free he will not be even a league average player after all the time he has missed and the surgeries performed.
The  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 10:36 am : link
Mets won't win a bidding war for Cora but he's my #1 choice. I'm expecting Hale or Geren however.
RE: The  
spike : 10/12/2017 10:38 am : link
In comment 13645345 DanMetroMan said:
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Mets won't win a bidding war for Cora but he's my #1 choice. I'm expecting Hale or Geren however.



they never win any bidding war. Cheap fcuks
AFL  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 10:38 am : link
began yesterday. Pobereyko k'ed 3 yesterday. Haven't seen anything on Kay in instructs stuff wise, Peterson 91-94
Not  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 10:40 am : link
even getting into a cheap or non-cheap argument the Mets have "never" (even pre-Sandy) believed in paying significant money for managers. Both Manuel/Willie briefly had "beef" over their low salaries etc. Boston is also a far more appealing roster and a team with a huge payroll. Cora figures to be the "#1" target of more than 1 team. If Boston wants him he's almost certainly going there.
Iíd be very surprised  
Shecky : 10/12/2017 10:41 am : link
If anyone hears anything or leaks through the process
Supposedly  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 10:43 am : link
they are high on Ausmus and Wakamatsu. Both are highly intelligent guys. Hard to judge managers in all honesty. I don't like what I've heard from Joe McEwing's mouth however and PLEASE don't give John Franco a job, thanks.

-DeFrancesco was a nice hire for AAA. Surprised how quickly the love for Pedro Lopez dissipated.
Hope the Astros lose  
spike : 10/12/2017 10:43 am : link
so Alex Cora can actually interview
Would it come down to a bidding war for a manager?  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2017 10:43 am : link
If I'm Cora and I have the option of Betts, Benintendi, Devers, Bogaerts (even with the down year) all under 25 I don't need more money to go there, especially with a pitching staff of Sale, Price, Porcello (even with down years from Price and Porcello) and Kimbrel.

It's kind of more about talent and where I can be successful than money.

But maybe I'm being naive and it begins and ends with money.
Top 50 so far-NYFS  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 10:44 am : link

1) Andres Gimenez (SS) 12/27 votes-44%
2) David Peterson (LHP) 12/24 votes-50%
3) Mark Vientos (SS/3B) 13/24 votes-54%
4) Peter Alonso (1B) 21/28 votes-75%
5) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) 10/22-45%
6) Justin Dunn (RHP) 4/20-20%, runoff with Lindsay/Guillorme/Kay 9/22-41%
7) Desmond Lindsay (OF) 12/26-46%
RE: Would it come down to a bidding war for a manager?  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 10:46 am : link
In comment 13645363 pjcas18 said:
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If I'm Cora and I have the option of Betts, Benintendi, Devers, Bogaerts (even with the down year) all under 25 I don't need more money to go there, especially with a pitching staff of Sale, Price, Porcello (even with down years from Price and Porcello) and Kimbrel.

It's kind of more about talent and where I can be successful than money.

But maybe I'm being naive and it begins and ends with money.


It's both. Joe Maddon was well aware of the talent the Cubs had on the way when he became the highest paid manager in baseball. Had another team offered him more who knows if "money talks". But the Mets are known for not paying for managers so when you take 1. Worst situation aka less talent and less payroll 2. Unlikely to offer significantly more money than Boston. IF the Sox want him he's almost certainly going there. The caveat would be a team dragging it's feet and a team like the Mets or Tigers acting fast and offering him the job.
Ventura  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 10:48 am : link
and McEwing both seem unappealing to me. I don't love Geren but he's a really smart guy who was a loss to the Mets staff so it wouldn't be an awful choice. Similar feelings on Hale. No opinion of Long.
IMO it's not worth  
Metnut : 10/12/2017 10:53 am : link
spending the Mets limited cash on a "name" manager. Forget about the retreads. Interview a bunch of people. See who understands who analytics works, has some interesting ideas for NYM players, and is aligned with the front office. There's FAR more people who want MLB manager jobs than there are actual MLB manager jobs.
RE: IMO it's not worth  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 10:59 am : link
In comment 13645380 Metnut said:
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spending the Mets limited cash on a "name" manager. Forget about the retreads. Interview a bunch of people. See who understands who analytics works, has some interesting ideas for NYM players, and is aligned with the front office. There's FAR more people who want MLB manager jobs than there are actual MLB manager jobs.


I wouldn't worry about them doing that. Outside of Girardi (which obviously isn't happening now) there isn't a "splash" manager to be had. If they think fans are going to get excited about Robin Ventura then they are morons. As I said I really like Cora, I have a few other favorites but at the end of the day it's going to get more ink than it's worth. The roster on the other hand... or the putrid farm system...
The Mets have a young team  
spike : 10/12/2017 11:00 am : link
and need a manager who can gel with them (both the English and Spanish speaking players)
Tigers  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 11:03 am : link
reportedly very high on Cora/Acta. Red Sox Cora/Ausmus. So teams are looking at similar pools.
so  
spike : 10/12/2017 11:08 am : link
Chip Hale most likely
Bosox firing Farrell is bad for the Mets. If I had a choice I'd be  
Victor in CT : 10/12/2017 11:09 am : link
running to Boston.
Yeah  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 11:10 am : link
I'd be surprised if it weren't Geren or Hale with the wildcard being Kevin Long with a veteran BC like Wakamatsu
The Mets arenít going to spend  
Rflairr : 10/12/2017 11:12 am : link
Much on a manager. So you can forget them getting someone there might be a bidding war for like Cora. More likely someone like Geren is Aldersonís guy.

I personally like Chip Hale. But would be fine with Ventura or McEwing if it meant Don Cooper would be pitching coach.
RE: The Mets arenít going to spend  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 11:13 am : link
In comment 13645416 Rflairr said:
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Much on a manager. So you can forget them getting someone there might be a bidding war for like Cora. More likely someone like Geren is Aldersonís guy.

I personally like Chip Hale. But would be fine with Ventura or McEwing if it meant Don Cooper would be pitching coach.


Don Cooper isn't going anywhere. He has no "ties" to Ventura. He's been in Chicago for 4 different regimes. The PC will likely be one of Bones, Romanick or Dave Eiland.
Ventura  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 11:13 am : link
looks/sounds like a total pushover (had issues in the clubhouse and all you read is how "nice" he is) and McEwing sounds like a dinosaur. I doubt the Mets seriously consider McEwing at the end of the day.
too bad  
spike : 10/12/2017 11:13 am : link
Im afraid the Mets will be losing Frank Viola
.  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 11:15 am : link
Red Sox reportedly are already down to 3 names 1 being Gardenhire. The assumption is Cora is one of the other 2 but that hasn't been confirmed anywhere. Wouldn't mind the Sox going with Gardenhire or Ausmus and leaving us with a shot at Cora.
RE: too bad  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 11:16 am : link
In comment 13645422 spike said:
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Im afraid the Mets will be losing Frank Viola


Viola is a goner
Dave  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 11:38 am : link
Martinez is my personal "sleeper personal favorite" if not Cora.
Does anyone like  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2017 11:40 am : link
Gary Disarcina?

Also, why not John Farrell?
RE: Does anyone like  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13645503 pjcas18 said:
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Gary Disarcina?

Also, why not John Farrell?


The Mets reportedly are not interested in Farrell. There may or may not be some off-field stuff we are unaware of (with the Sox the whispers come whether they are true or not). DiSarcina has been a hot name for a while now. I have no real opinion of him either way but I haven't heard the Mets connected to him in any way (doesn't mean they won't be).
RE: RE: Honestly..  
ryanmkeane : 10/12/2017 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13645335 schabadoo said:
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If you're being serious, it's because he has a guaranteed contract thru 2020. I don't believe any doctor has told him he can't play.

I think what I mean is, the constant media obsession with David Wright...should be focusing on guys that are out there or the farm system. His last semi healthy season was 2014. and 2020?! Damn. Didn't realize that. Yikes.
Mets will hire  
gmenatlarge : 10/12/2017 12:38 pm : link
whoever comes cheapest, that is the bottom line.

David Wright, while a great player once, needs to retire, but that's easy for me to say I don't have 20 million at stake!
He has no idea does he?  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2017 12:39 pm : link
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Michael Mayer‏ @mikemayerMMO 24s24 seconds ago

Jon Heyman predicts that Alex Cora will be the Mets next manager.
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DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 12:43 pm : link
Michael Mayer‏ @mikemayerMMO 1m1 minute ago
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Heyman also says that the hot 3 names for manager jobs right now are:

Brad Ausmus
Alex Cora
Mickey Callaway

Callaway sure seems like "fun". Can't say I know much about his potential managerial style but it would be a nice roll of the dice . Throw a guy like Wakamatsu with him or someone of that ilk.
RE: He has no idea does he?  
Rflairr : 10/12/2017 12:43 pm : link
In comment 13645616 pjcas18 said:
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Michael Mayer‏ @mikemayerMMO 24s24 seconds ago

Jon Heyman predicts that Alex Cora will be the Mets next manager.




I think that only happens if Boston is zeroed in on Ausmus
RE: He has no idea does he?  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13645616 pjcas18 said:
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Michael Mayer‏ @mikemayerMMO 24s24 seconds ago

Jon Heyman predicts that Alex Cora will be the Mets next manager.




No way. 100% just guessing. Teams haven't even spoken to most of their candidates yet. Not saying he's "wrong" but he doesn't "know" anything at the moment.
RE: IMO it's not worth  
Rflairr : 10/12/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13645380 Metnut said:
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spending the Mets limited cash on a "name" manager. Forget about the retreads. Interview a bunch of people. See who understands who analytics works, has some interesting ideas for NYM players, and is aligned with the front office. There's FAR more people who want MLB manager jobs than there are actual MLB manager jobs.


Trust me. A name manager is going to want more than one mil to manage in NY. So you donít have to worry about that.
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2017 2:48 pm : link
to interview Kevin Long (as expected).
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DanMetroMan : 10/13/2017 10:09 am : link
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#Indians pitching coach Mickey Callaway will interview with #Phillies, per @hoynsie. #Mets also expected to show interest, sources say.
Not only will the Mets under-pay a new Manager - - - -  
Phil in Joisey : 10/13/2017 10:41 am : link
but you think the top candidates are praying that they can work for Jeff Wilpon before they die? Yeah, right, surely at the very top of their bucket list.
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