suspended indefinitely? Literally the dumbest coaching decision I've ever heard. Give him a punishment that fits the crime, let him serve it, and move on. This guy is a clown.
I am/was a huge DRC fan, but its inexcusable to walk out on your team, your fans, and disrespect the NY Giants uniform.
I don't give a shit if the coach is Rich Kotite, Joe Walton, R** Ha*****, Read and React Rod Rust, Allie Sherman, or Bozo the Clown
You don't pull this shit and quit on your team mid game.
"no one respects this coach" is a very broad statement born of frustration and a losing season. Coach McAdoo is asserting himself and posing punishment to one player who has not reached week to coach' s criticism.
How does that translate to no one respects him ? I understand fan angst and wanting to point fingers, but that comment is hyperbole.
Before this happened. He's on a reasonable contract for one more year, so he probably would have been one of the more valuable trade pieces amidst the current dumpster fire.
Of course, now they've successfully driven the price down on themselves...
I am/was a huge DRC fan, but its inexcusable to walk out on your team, your fans, and disrespect the NY Giants uniform.
I don't give a shit if the coach is Rich Kotite, Joe Walton, R** Ha*****, Read and React Rod Rust, Allie Sherman, or Bozo the Clown
You don't pull this shit and quit on your team mid game.
Especially since it was the shitty play of the defense that had significant impact on the outcome of the last two games.
Well this will go over well with the rest of the team
That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
RE: Well this will go over well with the rest of the team
That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Not saying it was causative, but interesting that they have ben an undisciplined mess ever since and NOW that they are 0-6 the coach is gonna start disciplining???
RE: RE: Well this will go over well with the rest of the team
That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
"Take a stand with"
I'm not talking about him being suspended now. I'm talking about telling him he is benched during the game. I think DRC was wrong from the get-go on how he handled this. But IMO so is McAdoo with how he dispenses judgment during that game with regards to DRC. He was playing better than any other DB, you're going to bench him to make a point with the game Apple and JJ had?
"no one respects this coach" is a very broad statement born of frustration and a losing season. Coach McAdoo is asserting himself and posing punishment to one player who has not reached week to coach' s criticism.
How does that translate to no one respects him ? I understand fan angst and wanting to point fingers, but that comment is hyperbole.
Based on the things that have gone on over the last couple of weeks, I don't see a whole lot of evidence pointing to the contrary.
Eli Apple is talking about culture problems, DRC is rage quitting in the middle of games, and save for Goodson, not a whole lot of players seem to be rushing to defend him.
Most of the things going on right now are the things that happen when a coach loses control of his locker room.
Saying "no one respects him" is probably a stretch, but I think it's safe to say that he doesn't have a good grip on this team right now and I don't see how anyone could possibly disagree.
To watch this great game that once was die a slow death. Today's players are spoiled and don't care about the history of the sport. With union negotiations coming up the owners better prepare to dig in their heels and prepare for war so they can take back control from the inmates.
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Not saying it was causative, but interesting that they have ben an undisciplined mess ever since and NOW that they are 0-6 the coach is gonna start disciplining???
Sorry but that makes zero sense. You wanted McAdoo to discipline the players for going on a boat trip... on their day off? What was he supposed to do, bench them for a half in a playoff game? That whole incident has nothing to do punishing our players for violating team rules.
RE: Well this will go over well with the rest of the team
That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
Good point.
Clearly, the boat trip that none of the defensive players
That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
I totally agree. Plus, how many NFL players just have had it up to here so they clean out their lockers? I don't recall any and it is a sign that there is a lot going on.
To the defenders of Ben MacAdoo on this, I would ask what would you think if Eli Manning walked out. I suspect that would be a big deal. Why DRC doesn't get at least the benefit of the doubt is beyond me.
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Not saying it was causative, but interesting that they have ben an undisciplined mess ever since and NOW that they are 0-6 the coach is gonna start disciplining???
Sorry but that makes zero sense. You wanted McAdoo to discipline the players for going on a boat trip... on their day off? What was he supposed to do, bench them for a half in a playoff game? That whole incident has nothing to do punishing our players for violating team rules.
I just made an observation, you added all that other nonsense. Is there any question that this is an un-disciplined team and it begins with our star player who makes a complete fool of himself after his TD celebration and then doesn't care if it hurts his team. Sorry those are the facts which I didn't have to make up.
too late now to try and be a tough guy. Let Engram and Beckham be assholes on the field, cost the team yds and do nothing, but DRC gets punished for wanting to play or disagreeing with how he's used.
too late now to try and be a tough guy. Let Engram and Beckham be assholes on the field, cost the team yds and do nothing, but DRC gets punished for wanting to play or disagreeing with how he's used.
I was going to say the same thing.
I don't think DRC handled himself professionally, but this reeks of McAdoo now trying to suddenly be more of a disciplinarian and wield some sort of power to show that he still has things under control.
to be there is not just a double standard but multiple standards for different players. It seems there is no consistency, which probably helps build resentments.
The boat trip was just a symptom of the larger issue
which is the head coach. He has never had control of this team and the players don't respect him. The Giants have been playing undisciplined, dumb football since he started. I think the Giants were the first team to have a player ejected for getting 2 personal fouls in a game...
So it is written. So it shall be done.
This reminds me of the Tim Meadows principal character in Mean Girls:
Meadows: "I WILL KEEP YOU HERE ALL NIGHT"
[another teacher leans in] "we can only keep them until 4:30"
Meadows: "I WILL KEEP YOU HERE UNTIL 4:30"
DRC's behavior wasn't acceptable but it's also clear that no one respects this coach right now.
This season is going to keep getting uglier. This won't be the last of these stories.
DRC's behavior wasn't acceptable but it's also clear that no one respects this coach right now.
This season is going to keep getting uglier. This won't be the last of these stories.
Good...only way to ensure this regime is blown up.
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They're both to blame.
DRC's behavior wasn't acceptable but it's also clear that no one respects this coach right now.
This season is going to keep getting uglier. This won't be the last of these stories.
Good...only way to ensure this regime is blown up.
CLEAN. HO?USE.
LOOOOOOLLLLLOOOOOLLLLLL
Show Dick some respect.
I don't give a shit if the coach is Rich Kotite, Joe Walton, R** Ha*****, Read and React Rod Rust, Allie Sherman, or Bozo the Clown
You don't pull this shit and quit on your team mid game.
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Great post... the boat trip definitely wrecked the defense too.
Couldn't agree more.
How does that translate to no one respects him ? I understand fan angst and wanting to point fingers, but that comment is hyperbole.
yes they are 0-6 because of the boat trip
Of course, now they've successfully driven the price down on themselves...
I don't give a shit if the coach is Rich Kotite, Joe Walton, R** Ha*****, Read and React Rod Rust, Allie Sherman, or Bozo the Clown
You don't pull this shit and quit on your team mid game.
Especially since it was the shitty play of the defense that had significant impact on the outcome of the last two games.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
"Take a stand with"
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since the stupid boat trip, but that was OK...
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Not saying it was causative, but interesting that they have ben an undisciplined mess ever since and NOW that they are 0-6 the coach is gonna start disciplining???
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That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
"Take a stand with"
I'm not talking about him being suspended now. I'm talking about telling him he is benched during the game. I think DRC was wrong from the get-go on how he handled this. But IMO so is McAdoo with how he dispenses judgment during that game with regards to DRC. He was playing better than any other DB, you're going to bench him to make a point with the game Apple and JJ had?
CBA states Giants have to reinstate him or cut him
How does that translate to no one respects him ? I understand fan angst and wanting to point fingers, but that comment is hyperbole.
Based on the things that have gone on over the last couple of weeks, I don't see a whole lot of evidence pointing to the contrary.
Eli Apple is talking about culture problems, DRC is rage quitting in the middle of games, and save for Goodson, not a whole lot of players seem to be rushing to defend him.
Most of the things going on right now are the things that happen when a coach loses control of his locker room.
Saying "no one respects him" is probably a stretch, but I think it's safe to say that he doesn't have a good grip on this team right now and I don't see how anyone could possibly disagree.
There is much more that is not being said...DRC is not going to just walk out on the team for no reason...
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since the stupid boat trip, but that was OK...
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Not saying it was causative, but interesting that they have ben an undisciplined mess ever since and NOW that they are 0-6 the coach is gonna start disciplining???
Sorry but that makes zero sense. You wanted McAdoo to discipline the players for going on a boat trip... on their day off? What was he supposed to do, bench them for a half in a playoff game? That whole incident has nothing to do punishing our players for violating team rules.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
Good point.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
I totally agree. Plus, how many NFL players just have had it up to here so they clean out their lockers? I don't recall any and it is a sign that there is a lot going on.
To the defenders of Ben MacAdoo on this, I would ask what would you think if Eli Manning walked out. I suspect that would be a big deal. Why DRC doesn't get at least the benefit of the doubt is beyond me.
Their jealousy and bitterness have eaten away at them
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In comment 13645473 gmenatlarge said:
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since the stupid boat trip, but that was OK...
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Not saying it was causative, but interesting that they have ben an undisciplined mess ever since and NOW that they are 0-6 the coach is gonna start disciplining???
Sorry but that makes zero sense. You wanted McAdoo to discipline the players for going on a boat trip... on their day off? What was he supposed to do, bench them for a half in a playoff game? That whole incident has nothing to do punishing our players for violating team rules.
I just made an observation, you added all that other nonsense. Is there any question that this is an un-disciplined team and it begins with our star player who makes a complete fool of himself after his TD celebration and then doesn't care if it hurts his team. Sorry those are the facts which I didn't have to make up.
Correlation does not equal causation.
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since the stupid boat trip, but that was OK...
Correlation does not equal causation.
I guess you missed where I said it wasn't causative, just an observation.
I was going to say the same thing.
I don't think DRC handled himself professionally, but this reeks of McAdoo now trying to suddenly be more of a disciplinarian and wield some sort of power to show that he still has things under control.
He doesn't.