the other fact in all of this, is that DRC is a strange cat. There's been some issues with him throughout his career. Why is everyone all of a sudden acting like he's some Giant legend? He walked out on his team when the chips were down. I like the guy, but that's a cowardly move.
has never once did what DRC has done the past few days, and some folks here want to get rid of him. But DRC walks out on the team and you're defending him/going after the coach? This place is a nightmare lately.
we don't need to revisit the head coach after this season. But let's see how the rest of this thing plays out before we point fingers at Ben and say that it's his fault that a 30+ year old professional walked out on his teammates multiple times in the span of a few days. If he doesn't respect the coach, that's his problem.
I doubt we'll find out anytime soon. We know that McAdon't stood like a statute when his best player went down with a gruesome injury. And apparently in that same game McAdon't got into it with DRC.
If the team really does quit on McAdon't then it's blowout time. And suspending a player indefinitely for leaving the field during the game is almost certainly not going to help McAdon't win the hearts and minds of his players.
has never once did what DRC has done the past few days, and some folks here want to get rid of him. But DRC walks out on the team and you're defending him/going after the coach? This place is a nightmare lately.
Why does it have to be one or the other?
I think DRC's behavior was unacceptable and also think this coach is in over his head and that he's losing the locker room rapidly.
Yeah I think some people are being unfair to McAdoo here
Maybe he's losing the team, maybe he isn't...but I don't see any rational way to even slightly take DRC's side here. What he did was unforgivable.
And this is my point when I say character matters. Maybe it isn't realistic, but I don't want the head coach to have to be a fucking babysitter because the roster is populated with immature idiots that lack the professionalism to properly function in a team setting.
The locker room, the meeting rooms, the practice facility, and the field are all places of work. Careers are made and broken there...people should act accordingly. Be a fucking professional so that the head coach can worry about more important things than soothing some idiot's ego.
we are finding common ground here. McAdoo can't be a fucking father and babysitter to kids like Apple, DRC, whoever. He needs to be a football coach. If you don't have the professionalism to be out there giving it your all every Sunday or during practice or whatever, then how the hell is that McAdoo's fault?
Coughlin probably would have released DRC or came down really hard on him publicly (which McAdoo never did), and everyone would be singing his praises saying it was a move by a leader.
Maybe he's losing the team, maybe he isn't...but I don't see any rational way to even slightly take DRC's side here. What he did was unforgivable.
And this is my point when I say character matters. Maybe it isn't realistic, but I don't want the head coach to have to be a fucking babysitter because the roster is populated with immature idiots that lack the professionalism to properly function in a team setting.
The locker room, the meeting rooms, the practice facility, and the field are all places of work. Careers are made and broken there...people should act accordingly. Be a fucking professional so that the head coach can worry about more important things than soothing some idiot's ego.
of course you don't; you are not supposed to but that is not your fault. The team has been sure to leak their side of the story to their favored reporters which is their modus operandi.
I agree...McAdoo is to blame for a lot of our losses. The gameplan, the lack of urgency on offense, the playcalling. All that stuff. But this with DRC and Apple and Jenkins...this is horseshit to put it on McAdoo.
I agree...McAdoo is to blame for a lot of our losses. The gameplan, the lack of urgency on offense, the playcalling. All that stuff. But this with DRC and Apple and Jenkins...this is horseshit to put it on McAdoo.
It shouldn't all be put on him - but I think it pretty clearly shows a divide between players and coach. Which isn't necessarily the coaches fault. But there's clearly not a strong stable of leadership on this football team right now and that has to start at the top.
an indefinite suspension feels like a punishment that doesn't fit the crime -- at least the crime as we understand it (going to the locker room after being benched). One or two game suspension seems reasonable and sends a message that it's not acceptable. An indefinite suspension says abuse of power.
Again, not trying to defend DRC, but for a veteran who doesn't have discipline problems to suddenly lose his shit, something is seriously wrong with how the team is being run.
It would be indicative of the current state of the NFL more than anything about the Giants. I think the real reason viewership has been dropping is that the games stink and the quality of play is atrocious, especially in September.
we are finding common ground here. McAdoo can't be a fucking father and babysitter to kids like Apple, DRC, whoever. He needs to be a football coach. If you don't have the professionalism to be out there giving it your all every Sunday or during practice or whatever, then how the hell is that McAdoo's fault?
Coughlin probably would have released DRC or came down really hard on him publicly (which McAdoo never did), and everyone would be singing his praises saying it was a move by a leader.
Coughlin never did anything with Shockey or Odell and only didn't play Plaxico (Arizona?) after his 900th infraction despite his own on the field issues in 2008 in a game versus SF.
I would be able to stomach the piling on with McAdoo if people were honest and said it was just because we're losing games instead of making it about all of this foolishness. DRC already admitted publicly he was wrong, but McAdoo is somehow the imbecile who's lost control. No one felt that way after the Washington game last season. They've had leads with 3 minutes left each of the past 3 weeks and now the guy's the worst coach of all-time.
My biggest gripes with this coach are the things happening on the field - this stuff isn't why I think he should go. I just think this is the type of stuff you see pop up when things are going rotten in the locker room. Which, of course, is almost due entirely to losing.
Forget DRC for a minute - I think people need to ask themselves what McAdoo is doing well as a football coach this year and decide if he deserves another year.
I personally don't think this football team should be 0-5 right now with the talent on the roster. And that has to be a direct indictment on the coach.
we are finding common ground here. McAdoo can't be a fucking father and babysitter to kids like Apple, DRC, whoever. He needs to be a football coach. If you don't have the professionalism to be out there giving it your all every Sunday or during practice or whatever, then how the hell is that McAdoo's fault?
Coughlin probably would have released DRC or came down really hard on him publicly (which McAdoo never did), and everyone would be singing his praises saying it was a move by a leader.
Coughlin never did anything with Shockey or Odell and only didn't play Plaxico (Arizona?) after his 900th infraction despite his own on the field issues in 2008 in a game versus SF.
I would be able to stomach the piling on with McAdoo if people were honest and said it was just because we're losing games instead of making it about all of this foolishness. DRC already admitted publicly he was wrong, but McAdoo is somehow the imbecile who's lost control. No one felt that way after the Washington game last season. They've had leads with 3 minutes left each of the past 3 weeks and now the guy's the worst coach of all-time.
The notion that Coughlin was some strict disciplinarian was always bullshit. He picked on guys that were easy to pick on...off the top of my head, Kiwanuka, Matt Dodge, and David Wilson all stand out. But his handling of Shockey, Plax, and Beckham was abysmal.
My biggest gripes with this coach are the things happening on the field - this stuff isn't why I think he should go. I just think this is the type of stuff you see pop up when things are going rotten in the locker room. Which, of course, is almost due entirely to losing.
Forget DRC for a minute - I think people need to ask themselves what McAdoo is doing well as a football coach this year and decide if he deserves another year.
I personally don't think this football team should be 0-5 right now with the talent on the roster. And that has to be a direct indictment on the coach.
ITA with your first part, but disagree somewhat on the HC. I think there were more holes on this roster than we allowed ourselves to believe. The few weak areas of the defense have been expertly picked apart by opponents. The o-line has still been as shaky as many predicted. Despite that, they've had the lead with 3 minutes left each of the past 3 weeks. Didn't that happen one year recently with a Hall of Fame coach?
Even though I've defended Jerry Reese a ton, it's clear that he is the only constant and it might be time to move on from him. A new GM might want a new head coach, but I hesitate to throw McAdoo completely overboard.
My biggest gripes with this coach are the things happening on the field - this stuff isn't why I think he should go. I just think this is the type of stuff you see pop up when things are going rotten in the locker room. Which, of course, is almost due entirely to losing.
Forget DRC for a minute - I think people need to ask themselves what McAdoo is doing well as a football coach this year and decide if he deserves another year.
I personally don't think this football team should be 0-5 right now with the talent on the roster. And that has to be a direct indictment on the coach.
ITA with your first part, but disagree somewhat on the HC. I think there were more holes on this roster than we allowed ourselves to believe. The few weak areas of the defense have been expertly picked apart by opponents. The o-line has still been as shaky as many predicted. Despite that, they've had the lead with 3 minutes left each of the past 3 weeks. Didn't that happen one year recently with a Hall of Fame coach?
Even though I've defended Jerry Reese a ton, it's clear that he is the only constant and it might be time to move on from him. A new GM might want a new head coach, but I hesitate to throw McAdoo completely overboard.
We're on the same page re: Reese - and yeah, if they can Reese, they've got to can McAdoo too. I wouldn't want them forcing a HC on a new GM. Especially not this one. I'd rather the new GM was able to choose his own.
I'd give McAdoo the rest of this season, perhaps.. but if Reese is going to get axed, it might not make any difference.
I'm usually hesitant to want any team I root for to just hit the reset button, but it really just feels like that's what this team needs to do.
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Not saying it was causative, but interesting that they have ben an undisciplined mess ever since and NOW that they are 0-6 the coach is gonna start disciplining???
Sorry but that makes zero sense. You wanted McAdoo to discipline the players for going on a boat trip... on their day off? What was he supposed to do, bench them for a half in a playoff game? That whole incident has nothing to do punishing our players for violating team rules.
I just made an observation, you added all that other nonsense. Is there any question that this is an un-disciplined team and it begins with our star player who makes a complete fool of himself after his TD celebration and then doesn't care if it hurts his team. Sorry those are the facts which I didn't have to make up.
Yeah, it was a worthless observation that had little to do with DRC's situation where a player actually needed to be disciplined.
It makes no sense to do this in season. It makes evenless sense to put a flop holdover HC and DC in as interim coach.
It does make sense if McAdoo is not working out, only the insiders know. Releasing sends a message about accountability and allows the team to move on. It's not like we are going to win our remaining games unless this team has been intentionally sandbagging.
I am/was a huge DRC fan, but its inexcusable to walk out on your team, your fans, and disrespect the NY Giants uniform.
I don't give a shit if the coach is Rich Kotite, Joe Walton, R** Ha*****, Read and React Rod Rust, Allie Sherman, or Bozo the Clown
You don't pull this shit and quit on your team mid game.
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Not saying it was causative, but interesting that they have ben an undisciplined mess ever since and NOW that they are 0-6 the coach is gonna start disciplining???
Sorry but that makes zero sense. You wanted McAdoo to discipline the players for going on a boat trip... on their day off? What was he supposed to do, bench them for a half in a playoff game? That whole incident has nothing to do punishing our players for violating team rules.
I just made an observation, you added all that other nonsense. Is there any question that this is an un-disciplined team and it begins with our star player who makes a complete fool of himself after his TD celebration and then doesn't care if it hurts his team. Sorry those are the facts which I didn't have to make up.
Yeah, it was a worthless observation that had little to do with DRC's situation where a player actually needed to be disciplined.
if it was so worthless why did you feel the need to reply?
It makes no sense to do this in season. It makes evenless sense to put a flop holdover HC and DC in as interim coach.
It does make sense if McAdoo is not working out, only the insiders know. Releasing sends a message about accountability and allows the team to move on. It's not like we are going to win our remaining games unless this team has been intentionally sandbagging.
Agree. When a team is imploding like this, you have make changes to stop the free fall. It won't turn the team around or save the season, but it will help to stabilize the situation and start the moving the team in a positive direction. You can't have this kind of turmoil and hope to attract decent players to the Giants. Up until recently, the Giants were considered one of the better organizations to play for. Now they are a Giant train wreck.
The notion that Coughlin was some strict disciplinarian was always bullshit. He picked on guys that were easy to pick on...off the top of my head, Kiwanuka, Matt Dodge, and David Wilson all stand out. But his handling of Shockey, Plax, and Beckham was abysmal.
Which way do you want it? Supposedly, he was such a hard ass that his own wife said be more yourself. Much fun was poked at the 5 minutes early is late rule etc. Now, you say "he was just an old softee?"
Whatever. Some of you are really scrambling to justify your faith in Reese and McAdoo now that they have turned what was supposed to be a contender into a toxic waste dump.
RE: Well this will go over well with the rest of the team
That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
And this is why this all goes back to Beckham. He has almost single handedly torn the team apart with complete and utter lack of concern for the good of the team.
But he is just "passionate" and a "good kid" right?
I'm saying Coughlin was a hardass when it suited him. It was easy to jump all over young guys like Kiwanuka, Wilson, or Dodge in bad spots...but Shockey was motherfucking the quarterback and Plax was allowed basically to come and go as he pleased (Steve Smith's words, not mine). And Coughlin is at fault as much as anyone for Beckham being allowed to act the clown.
This isn't knocking Coughlin to elevate Reese or McAdoo. But let's not make Coughlin out to be Vince Lombardi.
That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
And this is why this all goes back to Beckham. He has almost single handedly torn the team apart with complete and utter lack of concern for the good of the team.
But he is just "passionate" and a "good kid" right?
I'm saying Coughlin was a hardass when it suited him. It was easy to jump all over young guys like Kiwanuka, Wilson, or Dodge in bad spots...but Shockey was motherfucking the quarterback and Plax was allowed basically to come and go as he pleased (Steve Smith's words, not mine). And Coughlin is at fault as much as anyone for Beckham being allowed to act the clown.
This isn't knocking Coughlin to elevate Reese or McAdoo. But let's not make Coughlin out to be Vince Lombardi.
Maybe DRC got tired of Apple starting over him on the outside and repeatedly getting burned ... Maybe DRC thinks Apple is getting preferential treatment because he's one of JR's many picks that gets umpteen chances to make it... It wouldn't be the first time someone up top exerted influence to keep or play certain guys regardless of talent.
I'm not saying DRC is justified to do anything he did. Professionals need to deal with stuff that happens ... but regardless, this does not reflect well on the organization.
RE: RE: Well this will go over well with the rest of the team
That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
And this is why this all goes back to Beckham. He has almost single handedly torn the team apart with complete and utter lack of concern for the good of the team.
But he is just "passionate" and a "good kid" right?
You're absolutely correct. The Giants are 0-5 and in complete disarray because of Beckham's dog pee celebration...
RE: RE: Well this will go over well with the rest of the team
That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
And this is why this all goes back to Beckham. He has almost single handedly torn the team apart with complete and utter lack of concern for the good of the team.
But he is just "passionate" and a "good kid" right?
This is the stupidest, most ignorant and downright asinine post I've ever read on BBI. Congratulations.
It's all Beckhams fault!!!!!!!! Everything!!!!!!!!!
that it is strange that I'm defending DRC instead of Mac, but I have a gnawing feeling that DRC did what he did because he thinks the coach is a clown and was playing guys worse than him, who were making multiple mistakes, and when he said something, there was an altercation.
People can correctly argue that no matter what happens, a player should never leave his team and the field, but that might tell you just how bad things are with Mac in charge. DRC has never been a guy to really care about perception and he's been a malcontent at times - and yet, he's not going apeshit over this, he's pretty much calmly telling everyone that Mac is an idiot.
Then they cut him or play him.....know all the times, he went down,, and stayed in the games hobbling around? That will not happen anymore....
If they cut him, he gets the rest of his money, and then he can sign with another team, and make up for the 4 checks he lost....
Just wonder, how long it's going to take, before the real truth comes out....you know it will....
Im afraid this might happen. Last thing we need is some positive momentum to save BMs job.
instead something happen to trigger him off
he isn't a rookie .. he knows something is really wrong and can't take it enough to walk out ..
So essentially what I'm seeing is, no matter what Ben does, you won't like it.
If the team really does quit on McAdon't then it's blowout time. And suspending a player indefinitely for leaving the field during the game is almost certainly not going to help McAdon't win the hearts and minds of his players.
This team is the Titanic.
Why does it have to be one or the other?
I think DRC's behavior was unacceptable and also think this coach is in over his head and that he's losing the locker room rapidly.
And this is my point when I say character matters. Maybe it isn't realistic, but I don't want the head coach to have to be a fucking babysitter because the roster is populated with immature idiots that lack the professionalism to properly function in a team setting.
The locker room, the meeting rooms, the practice facility, and the field are all places of work. Careers are made and broken there...people should act accordingly. Be a fucking professional so that the head coach can worry about more important things than soothing some idiot's ego.
Coughlin probably would have released DRC or came down really hard on him publicly (which McAdoo never did), and everyone would be singing his praises saying it was a move by a leader.
I'm not disputing that at all.
If players can't handle adversity, I don't want them here.
I just don't think the coach is blameless within the scope of this disaster of a season.
And this is my point when I say character matters. Maybe it isn't realistic, but I don't want the head coach to have to be a fucking babysitter because the roster is populated with immature idiots that lack the professionalism to properly function in a team setting.
The locker room, the meeting rooms, the practice facility, and the field are all places of work. Careers are made and broken there...people should act accordingly. Be a fucking professional so that the head coach can worry about more important things than soothing some idiot's ego.
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Im afraid this might happen. Last thing we need is some positive momentum to save BMs job.
I love the Giants and want them to win every game. There isn't a chance in hell they win in Denver
It shouldn't all be put on him - but I think it pretty clearly shows a divide between players and coach. Which isn't necessarily the coaches fault. But there's clearly not a strong stable of leadership on this football team right now and that has to start at the top.
Again, not trying to defend DRC, but for a veteran who doesn't have discipline problems to suddenly lose his shit, something is seriously wrong with how the team is being run.
It would be indicative of the current state of the NFL more than anything about the Giants. I think the real reason viewership has been dropping is that the games stink and the quality of play is atrocious, especially in September.
Coughlin probably would have released DRC or came down really hard on him publicly (which McAdoo never did), and everyone would be singing his praises saying it was a move by a leader.
Coughlin never did anything with Shockey or Odell and only didn't play Plaxico (Arizona?) after his 900th infraction despite his own on the field issues in 2008 in a game versus SF.
I would be able to stomach the piling on with McAdoo if people were honest and said it was just because we're losing games instead of making it about all of this foolishness. DRC already admitted publicly he was wrong, but McAdoo is somehow the imbecile who's lost control. No one felt that way after the Washington game last season. They've had leads with 3 minutes left each of the past 3 weeks and now the guy's the worst coach of all-time.
Forget DRC for a minute - I think people need to ask themselves what McAdoo is doing well as a football coach this year and decide if he deserves another year.
I personally don't think this football team should be 0-5 right now with the talent on the roster. And that has to be a direct indictment on the coach.
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we are finding common ground here. McAdoo can't be a fucking father and babysitter to kids like Apple, DRC, whoever. He needs to be a football coach. If you don't have the professionalism to be out there giving it your all every Sunday or during practice or whatever, then how the hell is that McAdoo's fault?
Coughlin probably would have released DRC or came down really hard on him publicly (which McAdoo never did), and everyone would be singing his praises saying it was a move by a leader.
Coughlin never did anything with Shockey or Odell and only didn't play Plaxico (Arizona?) after his 900th infraction despite his own on the field issues in 2008 in a game versus SF.
I would be able to stomach the piling on with McAdoo if people were honest and said it was just because we're losing games instead of making it about all of this foolishness. DRC already admitted publicly he was wrong, but McAdoo is somehow the imbecile who's lost control. No one felt that way after the Washington game last season. They've had leads with 3 minutes left each of the past 3 weeks and now the guy's the worst coach of all-time.
The notion that Coughlin was some strict disciplinarian was always bullshit. He picked on guys that were easy to pick on...off the top of my head, Kiwanuka, Matt Dodge, and David Wilson all stand out. But his handling of Shockey, Plax, and Beckham was abysmal.
Forget DRC for a minute - I think people need to ask themselves what McAdoo is doing well as a football coach this year and decide if he deserves another year.
I personally don't think this football team should be 0-5 right now with the talent on the roster. And that has to be a direct indictment on the coach.
ITA with your first part, but disagree somewhat on the HC. I think there were more holes on this roster than we allowed ourselves to believe. The few weak areas of the defense have been expertly picked apart by opponents. The o-line has still been as shaky as many predicted. Despite that, they've had the lead with 3 minutes left each of the past 3 weeks. Didn't that happen one year recently with a Hall of Fame coach?
Even though I've defended Jerry Reese a ton, it's clear that he is the only constant and it might be time to move on from him. A new GM might want a new head coach, but I hesitate to throw McAdoo completely overboard.
And Reese and Ross while they are at it.
Put Spags in charge for the rest of the season.
And Reese and Ross while they are at it.
Put Spags in charge for the rest of the season.
Spags should gone along with them.
It makes no sense to do this in season. It makes evenless sense to put a flop holdover HC and DC in as interim coach.
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My biggest gripes with this coach are the things happening on the field - this stuff isn't why I think he should go. I just think this is the type of stuff you see pop up when things are going rotten in the locker room. Which, of course, is almost due entirely to losing.
Forget DRC for a minute - I think people need to ask themselves what McAdoo is doing well as a football coach this year and decide if he deserves another year.
I personally don't think this football team should be 0-5 right now with the talent on the roster. And that has to be a direct indictment on the coach.
ITA with your first part, but disagree somewhat on the HC. I think there were more holes on this roster than we allowed ourselves to believe. The few weak areas of the defense have been expertly picked apart by opponents. The o-line has still been as shaky as many predicted. Despite that, they've had the lead with 3 minutes left each of the past 3 weeks. Didn't that happen one year recently with a Hall of Fame coach?
Even though I've defended Jerry Reese a ton, it's clear that he is the only constant and it might be time to move on from him. A new GM might want a new head coach, but I hesitate to throw McAdoo completely overboard.
We're on the same page re: Reese - and yeah, if they can Reese, they've got to can McAdoo too. I wouldn't want them forcing a HC on a new GM. Especially not this one. I'd rather the new GM was able to choose his own.
I'd give McAdoo the rest of this season, perhaps.. but if Reese is going to get axed, it might not make any difference.
I'm usually hesitant to want any team I root for to just hit the reset button, but it really just feels like that's what this team needs to do.
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since the stupid boat trip, but that was OK...
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Not saying it was causative, but interesting that they have ben an undisciplined mess ever since and NOW that they are 0-6 the coach is gonna start disciplining???
Sorry but that makes zero sense. You wanted McAdoo to discipline the players for going on a boat trip... on their day off? What was he supposed to do, bench them for a half in a playoff game? That whole incident has nothing to do punishing our players for violating team rules.
I just made an observation, you added all that other nonsense. Is there any question that this is an un-disciplined team and it begins with our star player who makes a complete fool of himself after his TD celebration and then doesn't care if it hurts his team. Sorry those are the facts which I didn't have to make up.
Yeah, it was a worthless observation that had little to do with DRC's situation where a player actually needed to be disciplined.
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And Reese and Ross while they are at it.
Put Spags in charge for the rest of the season.
Spags should gone along with them.
It makes no sense to do this in season. It makes evenless sense to put a flop holdover HC and DC in as interim coach.
It does make sense if McAdoo is not working out, only the insiders know. Releasing sends a message about accountability and allows the team to move on. It's not like we are going to win our remaining games unless this team has been intentionally sandbagging.
I don't give a shit if the coach is Rich Kotite, Joe Walton, R** Ha*****, Read and React Rod Rust, Allie Sherman, or Bozo the Clown
You don't pull this shit and quit on your team mid game.
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since the stupid boat trip, but that was OK...
What does that have to do with DRC? Keep bringing that up like it means something.
Not saying it was causative, but interesting that they have ben an undisciplined mess ever since and NOW that they are 0-6 the coach is gonna start disciplining???
Sorry but that makes zero sense. You wanted McAdoo to discipline the players for going on a boat trip... on their day off? What was he supposed to do, bench them for a half in a playoff game? That whole incident has nothing to do punishing our players for violating team rules.
I just made an observation, you added all that other nonsense. Is there any question that this is an un-disciplined team and it begins with our star player who makes a complete fool of himself after his TD celebration and then doesn't care if it hurts his team. Sorry those are the facts which I didn't have to make up.
Yeah, it was a worthless observation that had little to do with DRC's situation where a player actually needed to be disciplined.
if it was so worthless why did you feel the need to reply?
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And the quicker the better.
And Reese and Ross while they are at it.
Put Spags in charge for the rest of the season.
Spags should gone along with them.
It makes no sense to do this in season. It makes evenless sense to put a flop holdover HC and DC in as interim coach.
It does make sense if McAdoo is not working out, only the insiders know. Releasing sends a message about accountability and allows the team to move on. It's not like we are going to win our remaining games unless this team has been intentionally sandbagging.
I concur. He's an older player, and if you're going to go down at least go down with guys who seemingly support you.
DRC's actions are unacceptable for a teammate, and professional.
Will be his last season here.............regardless of staff next year.
The notion that Coughlin was some strict disciplinarian was always bullshit. He picked on guys that were easy to pick on...off the top of my head, Kiwanuka, Matt Dodge, and David Wilson all stand out. But his handling of Shockey, Plax, and Beckham was abysmal.
Whatever. Some of you are really scrambling to justify your faith in Reese and McAdoo now that they have turned what was supposed to be a contender into a toxic waste dump.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
And this is why this all goes back to Beckham. He has almost single handedly torn the team apart with complete and utter lack of concern for the good of the team.
But he is just "passionate" and a "good kid" right?
This isn't knocking Coughlin to elevate Reese or McAdoo. But let's not make Coughlin out to be Vince Lombardi.
Bunch of "no comments" from Janoris Jenkins on anything involving DRC.
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That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
And this is why this all goes back to Beckham. He has almost single handedly torn the team apart with complete and utter lack of concern for the good of the team.
But he is just "passionate" and a "good kid" right?
Yep. Why hasn't everyone noticed this?
See yesterday's News and Notes update.
This isn't knocking Coughlin to elevate Reese or McAdoo. But let's not make Coughlin out to be Vince Lombardi.
He's got the same amount of SB's!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not saying DRC is justified to do anything he did. Professionals need to deal with stuff that happens ... but regardless, this does not reflect well on the organization.
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That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
And this is why this all goes back to Beckham. He has almost single handedly torn the team apart with complete and utter lack of concern for the good of the team.
But he is just "passionate" and a "good kid" right?
You're absolutely correct. The Giants are 0-5 and in complete disarray because of Beckham's dog pee celebration...
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That has an 0-5 record and some sign the seams are beginning to unravel.
DRC has not caused any issues since the first day we signed him. He has moved to whatever spot they asked of him and done a good job he has been a good soldier up to this point. Meanwhile, we have guys doing all kinds of stupid shit costing us penalties and games but yet this is the guy you decide to make a stand with?
And this is why this all goes back to Beckham. He has almost single handedly torn the team apart with complete and utter lack of concern for the good of the team.
But he is just "passionate" and a "good kid" right?
This is the stupidest, most ignorant and downright asinine post I've ever read on BBI. Congratulations.
It's all Beckhams fault!!!!!!!! Everything!!!!!!!!!
Bunch of "no comments" from Janoris Jenkins on anything involving DRC.
Of course. The players are circling the wagons, especially the secondary. Its players vs the coaches and the wheels are going to come off fast.
People can correctly argue that no matter what happens, a player should never leave his team and the field, but that might tell you just how bad things are with Mac in charge. DRC has never been a guy to really care about perception and he's been a malcontent at times - and yet, he's not going apeshit over this, he's pretty much calmly telling everyone that Mac is an idiot.
But of course, it's Beckham's fucking fault.....
Some fat guy who used to coach in NY