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Dottino re: McAdoo's status

Chris684 : 10/12/2017 2:43 pm
On the Dottino radio report today, he was asked point blank whether or not he feels McAdoo will be let go at the end of the season.

His response was that it's "too early to say" but he brought up a point that is very relevant given the events with DRC the last few days. More than anything else, he said to focus on the team concept and whether or not McAdoo loses that and this locker room.

I know it's not earth shattering but of all the things we discuss here, the offense, playcalling, personnel, interaction with the media, etc. McAdoo's fate here is most likely in the hands of the guys remaining in that locker room.

Personally, I don't think that's the best way to evaluate the head coach because you can have seasons like 2013 where if you want, you can give a big salute to Coughlin for keeping that team "together" but the reality of that season is that they beat a few 2nd and 3rd string QBs in a row and started feeling better about themselves until they blew the only game that mattered against Dallas.

The evaluation should be taking place right now.

Why isnt/wasnt Justin Pugh considered a starting tackle on this team since the spring when we clearly had no better options?

Why is it taking so long for Flowers to develop fundamentals?

Why has Eli Apple (or while you're at it our entire defense) regressed this season?

Why are other teams talking about knowing what plays we will run?

Why are we 4th down happy in FG range with a new, young kicker with a big leg?

These are all issues that are more important than whether or not the team can pull a few moral victories out of its ass after throwing away a super bowl season.
Miss me yet?  
Beer Man : 10/12/2017 2:47 pm : link
Lots of questions  
Rjanyg : 10/12/2017 3:06 pm : link
I wonder who will continue to play hard this season. I think you will see the players that have pride and do their jobs very easily. Some of the malcontents will stick out like a sore thumb.
Honestly I do not think Flowers has been that bad the past few games.  
FatBoyLacy : 10/12/2017 3:12 pm : link
Yeah, he is not good, but he is alot better than Bobby Hart. I do not know why we give up 0 sacks in the games Bobby hart is injured and then when he is healthy we go back to the original line and let up 5 sacks again.

Its obvious what our best offensive line combo is. How does Macadoo not?
we are basically one good guard short of decent  
idiotsavant : 10/12/2017 3:35 pm : link
and a great G-C-G trio short of a run.

Given that Pugh is our best tackle.

Pugh/That One Player[Jones]Fluker\Flowers
Pugh  
Bernie : 10/12/2017 4:24 pm : link
started his career at right tackle and had to be moved inside to guard because he was not good. Now all of a sudden people want to put him at left tackle. Strange.
I'm going to read between the lines a little  
Emil : 10/12/2017 4:32 pm : link
P-Dot is generally the most optimistic of all media types on teh beat, and more often than not, represents the organization take on events. I don't know whether this is by design (i.e. he is being fed info) or if he is just that optimisitc and that much of a fan. Regardless, when he answers "too soon to tell," I read that as there is actually a real chance McAdoo is let go if: (A) The team continues to lose and (B) if the loses the team/locker room.

If you ask me, both of those things are happening in front of our eyes and its on McAdoo to reverse it.
RE: I'm going to read between the lines a little  
Emil : 10/12/2017 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13645976 Emil said:
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P-Dot is generally the most optimistic of all media types on teh beat, and more often than not, represents the organization take on events. I don't know whether this is by design (i.e. he is being fed info) or if he is just that optimisitc and that much of a fan. Regardless, when he answers "too soon to tell," I read that as there is actually a real chance McAdoo is let go if: (A) The team continues to lose and (B) if the loses the team/locker room.

If you ask me, both of those things are happening in front of our eyes and its on McAdoo to reverse it.


if "he" loses the team/locker room.
No one complained last year when we beat a half dozen  
HomerJones45 : 10/12/2017 4:41 pm : link
rookie qb's and you all conveniently forget that.
This is when you find out what you got in your coach and players  
gmen9892 : 10/12/2017 4:52 pm : link
The hard times. I dont know if this is rock bottom, but if not, we are going to see if Ben can really lead men. Have to do it when adversity settles in. Same goes for the players. This is when leaders are born. Through the terrible times. I know the season is over, but I am looking forward to seeing who performs, who quits, and if this thing is going to keep going south.

DRC could be just the beginning of this mess, and if that is so, Ben might not make it through the season.
RE: RE: I'm going to read between the lines a little  
EricJ : 10/12/2017 4:52 pm : link
In comment 13645977 Emil said:
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In comment 13645976 Emil said:


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P-Dot is generally the most optimistic of all media types on teh beat, and more often than not, represents the organization take on events. I don't know whether this is by design (i.e. he is being fed info) or if he is just that optimisitc and that much of a fan. Regardless, when he answers "too soon to tell," I read that as there is actually a real chance McAdoo is let go if: (A) The team continues to lose and (B) if the loses the team/locker room.

If you ask me, both of those things are happening in front of our eyes and its on McAdoo to reverse it.



if "he" loses the team/locker room.


Let's see how everyone responds to the adversity Sunday night.
RE: Honestly I do not think Flowers has been that bad the past few games.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/12/2017 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13645871 FatBoyLacy said:
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Yeah, he is not good, but he is alot better than Bobby Hart. I do not know why we give up 0 sacks in the games Bobby hart is injured and then when he is healthy we go back to the original line and let up 5 sacks again.

Its obvious what our best offensive line combo is. How does Macadoo not?


Is it obvious, or did they play a bucs team with just one defensive lineman that really can impact the game vs a charger team with a pair of them?
Pugh should have been a Tackle  
David B. : 10/12/2017 5:09 pm : link
since day one.
RE: Pugh should have been a Tackle  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/12/2017 6:26 pm : link
In comment 13646054 David B. said:
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since day one.


He was. Started off at RT and had a really good rookie season. His second season wasn't good and then they moved him to guard.
RE: RE: RE: I'm going to read between the lines a little  
Emil : 10/12/2017 6:36 pm : link
In comment 13646019 EricJ said:
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P-Dot is generally the most optimistic of all media types on teh beat, and more often than not, represents the organization take on events. I don't know whether this is by design (i.e. he is being fed info) or if he is just that optimisitc and that much of a fan. Regardless, when he answers "too soon to tell," I read that as there is actually a real chance McAdoo is let go if: (A) The team continues to lose and (B) if the loses the team/locker room.

If you ask me, both of those things are happening in front of our eyes and its on McAdoo to reverse it.



if "he" loses the team/locker room.



Let's see how everyone responds to the adversity Sunday night.


Big test against what is a solid team.
Pugh is not a LT  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 10/12/2017 6:59 pm : link
at this level.

We need to stop with this Pugh to LT stuff. It's a pipe dream. If Pugh could play LT they wouldn't have drafted Flowers.
RE: No one complained last year when we beat a half dozen  
djm : 10/12/2017 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13645993 HomerJones45 said:
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rookie qb's and you all conveniently forget that.


That's because we also beat Dallas twice and knocked the skins out of the playoffs and beat philly. 4-2 in a good division. Also had some other quality wins. Last year is gone but it was real.
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