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nyjuggernaut2 : 10/12/2017 9:42 pm
For passing up on Carson Wentz and trading the pick to Philly, what a joke of an organization...
They;re more set at the QB position than we are.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/12/2017 9:43 pm : link
Sad.
RE: They;re more set at the QB position than we are.  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/12/2017 9:46 pm : link
In comment 13646268 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Sad.


Who? Cleveland or Philly? Wentz is much better than Prescott. Prescott got all the pub last year but to me Wentz looks like the real deal.
RE: They;re more set at the QB position than we are.  
McNally's_Nuts : 10/12/2017 9:48 pm : link
In comment 13646268 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Sad.


Not even close to being true....
Wentz will be a pain  
spike : 10/12/2017 9:56 pm : link
For a long time
Wentz..  
Chris in Philly : 10/12/2017 9:58 pm : link
is going to get hurt playing the way he does.
RE: They;re more set at the QB position than we are.  
arcarsenal : 10/12/2017 10:00 pm : link
In comment 13646268 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Sad.


The Browns?

KIzer has shown nothing to suggest that thus far.
RE: Wentz..  
arcarsenal : 10/12/2017 10:01 pm : link
In comment 13646287 Chris in Philly said:
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is going to get hurt playing the way he does.


Yeah, that run near the goal line where he got crushed at the 1 is the type of hit you don't want your QB taking. It doesn't take many of those to get a guy hurt.
RE: RE: Wentz..  
Chris in Philly : 10/12/2017 10:04 pm : link
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is going to get hurt playing the way he does.



Yeah, that run near the goal line where he got crushed at the 1 is the type of hit you don't want your QB taking. It doesn't take many of those to get a guy hurt.


He plays like that all the time. South Philly lunkheads with marinara on their chins love it because it's "tough" but it's fucking stupid.
Panthers doing everything in  
terz22 : 10/12/2017 10:11 pm : link
Their power to lose this game.
RE: RE: RE: Wentz..  
SomeFan : 10/12/2017 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13646291 Chris in Philly said:
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is going to get hurt playing the way he does.



Yeah, that run near the goal line where he got crushed at the 1 is the type of hit you don't want your QB taking. It doesn't take many of those to get a guy hurt.



He plays like that all the time. South Philly lunkheads with marinara on their chins love it because it's "tough" but it's fucking stupid.


I think that is an ethnic slur.
RE: They;re more set at the QB position than we are.  
Blue Moon : 10/12/2017 10:17 pm : link
In comment 13646268 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Sad.



What's sad is your opinion. The word imbecile comes to mind.
Guys,  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/12/2017 10:22 pm : link
I was clearly referring to the Eagles. Sorry, if that wasn't obvious.
RE: RE: They;re more set at the QB position than we are.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/12/2017 10:23 pm : link
In comment 13646301 Blue Moon said:
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Sad.




What's sad is your opinion. The word imbecile comes to mind.


You're right a 2nd year QB that looks impressive vs. a 14th year QB on the way out wouldn't infer that the first team isn't more set going forward at the QB position.

Idiot.
RE: RE: RE: Wentz..  
Mr. Bungle : 10/12/2017 10:27 pm : link
In comment 13646291 Chris in Philly said:
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is going to get hurt playing the way he does.



Yeah, that run near the goal line where he got crushed at the 1 is the type of hit you don't want your QB taking. It doesn't take many of those to get a guy hurt.



He plays like that all the time. South Philly lunkheads with marinara on their chins love it because it's "tough" but it's fucking stupid.

Luck plays like that. And his body is wrecked.

Fitzpatrick played that way, too, for the Jets.
Wentz already has his Aaron Rodgers  
adamg : 10/12/2017 10:33 pm : link
and Brady - complain to the ref after every play - act down too. He's going to be getting some cheap calls soon enough.
RE: Guys,  
McNally's_Nuts : 10/12/2017 10:33 pm : link
In comment 13646305 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I was clearly referring to the Eagles. Sorry, if that wasn't obvious.


It wasn’t obvious at all
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Dave in Hoboken : 10/12/2017 10:34 pm : link
In comment 13646317 McNally's_Nuts said:
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I was clearly referring to the Eagles. Sorry, if that wasn't obvious.



It wasn’t obvious at all


Wentz vs. Kizer. Yeah, I can see the confusion.
this Philly team is the least hateable in decades  
gtt350 : 10/12/2017 11:50 pm : link
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RE: Guys,  
MetsAreBack : 10/13/2017 12:12 am : link
In comment 13646305 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I was clearly referring to the Eagles. Sorry, if that wasn't obvious.



I got it from the start. One team that has one super bowl appearance loss in 40 years and picked 2nd overall in the draft two years ago by virtue of sucking and finished last in 2016 too is more set at the qb position next 5 years thanks to picking high... than our guy around 13 years and has already won two super bowls.

As comparison Aaron Rodgers a 10 year starter has one title.

Our lives hence suck.

Am I missing any translation of your point?

Does it still sound rational to you?
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Dave in Hoboken : 10/13/2017 12:19 am : link
In comment 13646378 MetsAreBack said:
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I was clearly referring to the Eagles. Sorry, if that wasn't obvious.




I got it from the start. One team that has one super bowl appearance loss in 40 years and picked 2nd overall in the draft two years ago by virtue of sucking and finished last in 2016 too is more set at the qb position next 5 years thanks to picking high... than our guy around 13 years and has already won two super bowls.

As comparison Aaron Rodgers a 10 year starter has one title.

Our lives hence suck.

Am I missing any translation of your point?

Does it still sound rational to you?


Except for the fact that I never said which team has the better history or which QB will wind up 'better' or with the better resume. Just that the Eagles are more set at QB going into the future than the Giants are right now.

Pretty simple stuff.
RE: this Philly team is the least hateable in decades  
smshmth8690 : 10/13/2017 12:27 am : link
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Fuck that, I hate them every fucking year.
Houston is better set at qb today and moving forward  
MetsAreBack : 10/13/2017 12:27 am : link
Than Pittsburgh. Maybe New England too - Brady wasn't very good against Tampa.

This is fun. Who cares if the latter had 6 titles and picked late indrafts for a decade as a result, other teams that have sucked forever drafted well and might finally get their turn.
RE: Houston is better set at qb today and moving forward  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/13/2017 12:32 am : link
In comment 13646386 MetsAreBack said:
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Than Pittsburgh. Maybe New England too - Brady wasn't very good against Tampa.

This is fun. Who cares if the latter had 6 titles and picked late indrafts for a decade as a result, other teams that have sucked forever drafted well and might finally get their turn.


Yes, they are. That was my point. It's somewhat depressing that the Eagles, a division rival, have their QB for the next decade or so, and we do not. That's not a bash on Eli or even the front office. That's just father time.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing that out. Holy moly.
I think it's more depressing  
MetsAreBack : 10/13/2017 12:40 am : link
That the eagles have a better record than us DURiNG the Eli era. The fact that we won two SBs and they didn't ... is luck.

Let's see if wentz is really a decade long pain in the ass ... or just another Chas Pennington. Or maybe we find our next franchise guy in a year.

Who knows - I'll take the two lucky runs (I'm not embarrassed to admit that, results are all that matter and they were incredible times) over what might be a few fun seasons for philly.

Hell as a Rangers hockey fan - they've had a good team for 12 years - 0 titles and one 5 game finals loss to show for it. At the end of the day, who cares - failure.
RE: this Philly team is the least hateable in decades  
Chris in Philly : 10/13/2017 1:07 am : link
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I don't know where to begin.
Dallas and Philly both have their QB’s for the next decade plus  
The_Boss : 10/13/2017 5:54 am : link
I have a suspicion the NYG will “earn” the right to select their next guy over the next 12 weeks.
RE: They;re more set at the QB position than we are.  
JCin332 : 10/13/2017 6:04 am : link
In comment 13646268 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I think you were saying this about Foles a few years back...
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jeff57 : 10/13/2017 6:22 am : link
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I was clearly referring to the Eagles. Sorry, if that wasn't obvious.



It wasn’t obvious at all


I found it pretty obvious
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jeff57 : 10/13/2017 6:24 am : link
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I think you were saying this about Foles a few years back...


Wentz ain't Foles.
Browns passed on Wentz and Watson  
jeff57 : 10/13/2017 6:25 am : link
Will they keep passing on top QBs next draft? Funnyball.
When a team s franchise  
joeinpa : 10/13/2017 7:36 am : link
Quarterback nears the end of an era, other than the rare exception, like Montana to Young, Farve to Rogers, Manning to Luck, it is the norm to not be set at the quarterback position.

Actually though, Giants could end up in great shape. Next season they might find themselves with their franchise quarterback stlill playing well and two high draft pick quarterbacks in the wings.
I think I heard that both the  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/13/2017 7:45 am : link
Wentz & Watson picks were picks the Browns traded.

Ugh.
RE: this Philly team is the least hateable in decades  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/13/2017 7:46 am : link
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What? They could have 53 Mother Freaking Teresa's out there & I'd hate them with the fire of a 1,000 suns.
RE: Wentz..  
cjac : 10/13/2017 7:46 am : link
In comment 13646287 Chris in Philly said:
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is going to get hurt playing the way he does.


Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Its great to put your shoulder down and fight for more yards, but it will shorten his career.

I'm not wishing an injury on him.. Eagle fans do that
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Beezer : 10/13/2017 8:00 am : link
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I don't know where to begin.



What in the ...
Wentz would suck  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/13/2017 8:05 am : link
if he played for the Browns and considered another bust. Cleveland is where talent goes to die.
RE: They;re more set at the QB position than we are.  
BillKo : 10/13/2017 8:20 am : link
In comment 13646268 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Yeah, we only won two SB's with our QB.
Cleveland fucked up Royally, which I said at the time  
ZogZerg : 10/13/2017 8:37 am : link
when everyone was praising them for making "moves" to get draft picks. By the time Cleveland finds a decent QB all of these draft picks will have moved on.

With all of these draft picks, they are 0-5. Pathetic.

Cleveland is a Fucking joke of an organization.
Add Miami to the list.  
St. Jimmy : 10/13/2017 8:41 am : link
They swapped picks with the Eagles to take on bad contracts from the Eagles. That allowed the Eagles to move up and allowed them roster flexibility.
.....  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 10/13/2017 9:14 am : link
Everyone always praises the trade downs
Dave in Hoboken  
Giant John : 10/13/2017 9:15 am : link
Really? You could not be more wrong. Check the stats.
The last 2 Giants SB titles were luck?  
Chris684 : 10/13/2017 9:36 am : link
That's interesting news.

RE: The last 2 Giants SB titles were luck?  
crick n NC : 10/13/2017 9:45 am : link
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That's interesting news.


There certainly was an element of luck, like all runs. However, those runs weren't built with a foundation of luck. Those teams were mentally and physically tough, well coached, and maybe the most important part reliability, being able to just do your job, while having faith others would do theirs, total teamwork
gtt350  
bc4life : 10/13/2017 9:45 am : link
"least hateable Philly team" nuclear oxymoron.

That's like saying this bowl of catchit tastes a little bit better than that bowl of catshit.
RE: The last 2 Giants SB titles were luck?  
MetsAreBack : 10/13/2017 9:57 am : link
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That's interesting news.


I should qualify. I think our 2007 team was outstanding - there was luck in the sense that 3 of the games were won on the final drive (be it a D stop, or an offense comeback / 48 yarder in minus 25 degree windchill)... and over a larger sample size you're not going to win every game that way. But that team went toe-to-toe with teams a combined 45-6 and beat.

The 2011 team - the one that went 9-7, more often than not doesnt get a chance in a postseason but thankfully our division was shit - in the regular season gave up more points than it scored... and then in the playoffs recovered ALL 11 of its offensive fumbles during the run and benefited from a bad call on a Bradshaw forward progress in SF while benefiting from two 49ers ST fumbles in that game... yeah, there was lots of luck in that run.

So what - we still won.

My point was more an indictment of Reese and this shit front office that they've done a pretty piss poor job here for a long time now that we havent done better in the regular season during the Eli era than we have. So I'm not particularly worried about the next 10 years with Wentz in Philly when we've barely played .500 ball here the last 10 years...
I wish  
spike : 10/13/2017 10:14 am : link
The Giants could play the Browns to see which team is the worst
RE: They;re more set at the QB position than we are.  
djstat : 10/13/2017 11:52 am : link
In comment 13646268 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Sad.
Eli Manning is the least of NYG issues. Its only an issue cause you feel they need a future franchise.
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jeff57 : 10/13/2017 12:25 pm : link
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Eli Manning is the least of NYG issues. Its only an issue cause you feel they need a future franchise.


Which they do.
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gtt350 : 10/13/2017 12:30 pm : link
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i agree i said nothing about like just less hate


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Fuck that, I hate them every fucking year.
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Paulie Walnuts : 10/13/2017 1:44 pm : link
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is going to get hurt playing the way he does.



Yeah, that run near the goal line where he got crushed at the 1 is the type of hit you don't want your QB taking. It doesn't take many of those to get a guy hurt.



He plays like that all the time. South Philly lunkheads with marinara on their chins love it because it's "tough" but it's fucking stupid.


Its Gravy
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map7711 : 10/13/2017 1:49 pm : link
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Than Pittsburgh. Maybe New England too - Brady wasn't very good against Tampa.

This is fun. Who cares if the latter had 6 titles and picked late indrafts for a decade as a result, other teams that have sucked forever drafted well and might finally get their turn.



Yes, they are. That was my point. It's somewhat depressing that the Eagles, a division rival, have their QB for the next decade or so, and we do not. That's not a bash on Eli or even the front office. That's just father time.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing that out. Holy moly.



Your passive aggressive hate of Eli is getting real freaking old. Just go away. Please.
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Dave in Hoboken : 10/13/2017 1:52 pm : link
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Than Pittsburgh. Maybe New England too - Brady wasn't very good against Tampa.

This is fun. Who cares if the latter had 6 titles and picked late indrafts for a decade as a result, other teams that have sucked forever drafted well and might finally get their turn.



Yes, they are. That was my point. It's somewhat depressing that the Eagles, a division rival, have their QB for the next decade or so, and we do not. That's not a bash on Eli or even the front office. That's just father time.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing that out. Holy moly.




Your passive aggressive hate of Eli is getting real freaking old. Just go away. Please.


Fuck off. If you can't handle the fact that a 36 year old QB isn't going to be around forever, that's on you. You fucking child. Grow up.
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BillKo : 10/13/2017 1:55 pm : link
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That's interesting news.




I should qualify. I think our 2007 team was outstanding - there was luck in the sense that 3 of the games were won on the final drive (be it a D stop, or an offense comeback / 48 yarder in minus 25 degree windchill)... and over a larger sample size you're not going to win every game that way. But that team went toe-to-toe with teams a combined 45-6 and beat.

The 2011 team - the one that went 9-7, more often than not doesnt get a chance in a postseason but thankfully our division was shit - in the regular season gave up more points than it scored... and then in the playoffs recovered ALL 11 of its offensive fumbles during the run and benefited from a bad call on a Bradshaw forward progress in SF while benefiting from two 49ers ST fumbles in that game... yeah, there was lots of luck in that run.

So what - we still won.

My point was more an indictment of Reese and this shit front office that they've done a pretty piss poor job here for a long time now that we havent done better in the regular season during the Eli era than we have. So I'm not particularly worried about the next 10 years with Wentz in Philly when we've barely played .500 ball here the last 10 years...


You're kidding right.....that Tynes FG came after two other misses!! The Giants clearly were the better team that day.

I'd hardly call that 2007 run luck. The Tyree play....well, if you're gonna beat 16-0 you don't do it by being pedestrian.

The only "lucky" thing for 2011 was the division....but 9-7 is not that uncommon as it used to be for division winner. The ST fumbles were very fortunate, but the Bradshaw thing...cmon......that's Craig Carton BS.
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Chris in Philly : 10/13/2017 2:04 pm : link
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is going to get hurt playing the way he does.



Yeah, that run near the goal line where he got crushed at the 1 is the type of hit you don't want your QB taking. It doesn't take many of those to get a guy hurt.



He plays like that all the time. South Philly lunkheads with marinara on their chins love it because it's "tough" but it's fucking stupid.



Its Gravy


Delete your account
Least hateable Philly team  
feelflows : 10/13/2017 2:12 pm : link
Is like multiplying by 0. No matter what the other number is, it's always 0.

Maybe it's because I live in Eagles country.. but my level of dislike of that organization and fans is always the same.
Forget about Cleveland  
TrueBlue56 : 10/13/2017 3:35 pm : link
Thank the clueless Mike tannenbaum. What a joke of a trade he made to take 2 over priced and under performing players off of their hands that they didn't want and swapping 1st round picks to put philly in the position to make a deal with Cleveland.

How much better would Miami be if they kept their pick and then traded up for wentz.

Mike tannenbaum has got to be one of the dumbest gm's in football and yes he is worse than Reese
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map7711 : 10/13/2017 3:58 pm : link
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Than Pittsburgh. Maybe New England too - Brady wasn't very good against Tampa.

This is fun. Who cares if the latter had 6 titles and picked late indrafts for a decade as a result, other teams that have sucked forever drafted well and might finally get their turn.



Yes, they are. That was my point. It's somewhat depressing that the Eagles, a division rival, have their QB for the next decade or so, and we do not. That's not a bash on Eli or even the front office. That's just father time.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing that out. Holy moly.




Your passive aggressive hate of Eli is getting real freaking old. Just go away. Please.



Fuck off. If you can't handle the fact that a 36 year old QB isn't going to be around forever, that's on you. You fucking child. Grow up.


You by far may be the worst poster on here. And that's saying something. Now after 22 games of his career- the eagles are set at QB for the next ten yrs? Maybe, maybe not but there's no freaking way you can accurately say that at this point. Ohh and the Giants have a QB at the end of his career. Oh thanks for the contribution. What would we do if you weren't here to let us know these facts. There is no point in saying that other than the fact you look for any excuse to bash Eli, whether straight forward or a passive aggressive way like this. It's so freaking clear what your dumb intentions really are. So as I said, it just gets real old.
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