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NFT: US Soccer: Bruce Arena Resigns

Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/13/2017 10:43 am
He should've written it on the plane napkin on the way home. Gulati addressing reporters this morning
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Bye  
B in ALB : 10/13/2017 10:44 am : link
Loser.
He wasn't in it for the long haul, anyway.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/13/2017 10:45 am : link
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One down  
Kevin in Annapolis : 10/13/2017 10:47 am : link
now Gulati's turn
Shoulda taken Gulati with him  
gmen9892 : 10/13/2017 10:48 am : link
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I'm sure  
Gman11 : 10/13/2017 10:54 am : link
he resigned the same way Coughlin did.
The change needs to be with the development system as well  
AnnapolisMike : 10/13/2017 10:56 am : link
US soccer will never take the leap until they reorganize how they develop talent.
the first step  
well...bye TC : 10/13/2017 11:03 am : link
of many in the right direction. When MLS rises their salaries more young US players might actually consider soccer instead of other sports as a vocation.
RE: I'm sure  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/13/2017 11:04 am : link
In comment 13646710 Gman11 said:
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he resigned the same way Coughlin did.


He tones down his comments from the postgame but the arrogance still permeates.
Boy he sure came in and did a great job, didn't he?  
PatersonPlank : 10/13/2017 11:07 am : link
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The US men's team is the...  
vonritz : 10/13/2017 11:21 am : link
Soccer equivalent of the Cleveland Browns.
One thing I wonder about regarding a replacement  
Go Terps : 10/13/2017 11:23 am : link
I doubt he'd be interested, but I wonder if Pep Guardiola would ever be interested in the job. He spends a lot of time in New York, and I have a hard time seeing him hanging around Man City too long.

Pipe dream, I'm sure.
Anyone wonder if Klinnsy  
B in ALB : 10/13/2017 11:25 am : link
would have gotten them through?

<ducks and runs away>
RE: One thing I wonder about regarding a replacement  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/13/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13646776 Go Terps said:
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I doubt he'd be interested, but I wonder if Pep Guardiola would ever be interested in the job. He spends a lot of time in New York, and I have a hard time seeing him hanging around Man City too long.

Pipe dream, I'm sure.


You know who it's going to be in 2022, and it will be glorious.
RE: The change needs to be with the development system as well  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/13/2017 11:30 am : link
In comment 13646718 AnnapolisMike said:
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US soccer will never take the leap until they reorganize how they develop talent.


As a former employee of US Soccer, they know the issues that prevent them from getting to the next level on the world stage.

1) Our best athletes do not play soccer, they would rather play Football or Basketball

2) The leagues where the best players come from are all leagues that cost a ton of money to be in. Meanwhile the other countries don't have such a capitalistic driven mentality, where elite players have to pay to be recognized they are simply just scouted.

For instance, the coach for the USA beach team, actually found a bunch of their own players by scouting beach soccer in LA.

Places like Brasil do not have to compete with other sports to get the best athletes, and they don't pay to be on elite travel teams, because the money isn't there for that.
RE: RE: One thing I wonder about regarding a replacement  
Go Terps : 10/13/2017 11:33 am : link
In comment 13646787 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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I doubt he'd be interested, but I wonder if Pep Guardiola would ever be interested in the job. He spends a lot of time in New York, and I have a hard time seeing him hanging around Man City too long.

Pipe dream, I'm sure.



You know who it's going to be in 2022, and it will be glorious.


Who?
seems like the kids came out flat,flat, flat  
idiotsavant : 10/13/2017 11:39 am : link
as compared to the prior game. Lack of fear, lack of urgency, lack of humility.

Its like the Giants, Knicks, USMNT, the players are seen as chess pieces and the psychological emotional personal aspect of the game is ignored. Which just reeks of arrogance to me.

In the TNT game, they basically just stood around waiting for the expected win like a bunch of Sophomores at the school dance.
RE: RE: RE: One thing I wonder about regarding a replacement  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/13/2017 11:43 am : link
In comment 13646798 Go Terps said:
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I doubt he'd be interested, but I wonder if Pep Guardiola would ever be interested in the job. He spends a lot of time in New York, and I have a hard time seeing him hanging around Man City too long.

Pipe dream, I'm sure.



You know who it's going to be in 2022, and it will be glorious.



Who?


The Special One.
It is true  
moespree : 10/13/2017 11:53 am : link
That Jose Mourinho seems to love America, loves coming here each summer, loves the people who are fans of the game here, always has positive words for MLS and even seems to have some strange affinity for the USMNT too and has had kind words about them in the past.

Of course there's zero chance of this happening but if we're talking European elite manager pipedreams, you're right, he probably is the one to point to.
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Kyle in NY : 10/13/2017 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13646811 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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I doubt he'd be interested, but I wonder if Pep Guardiola would ever be interested in the job. He spends a lot of time in New York, and I have a hard time seeing him hanging around Man City too long.

Pipe dream, I'm sure.



You know who it's going to be in 2022, and it will be glorious.



Who?



The Special One.


Hahaha, witnessing Terps (and others) coming to terms to Mourinho would be quite the spectacle here
Mourinho actually wouldn't be a bad fit  
Go Terps : 10/13/2017 2:15 pm : link
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FYI - Sunil Gulati is not resigning  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/13/2017 3:06 pm : link
and will likely be running again, per the conference call today.
Huh??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/13/2017 3:14 pm : link
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The US men's team is the...
vonritz : 11:21 am : link : reply
Soccer equivalent of the Cleveland Browns.


Does it have to be pointed out again the growth the US has had on the Int'l stage the past couple of decades? It gets tiring to do that.

By the way - Gulati staying on is a terrible development.
I can understand not resigning...  
jv : 10/13/2017 3:16 pm : link
The election is soon anyways... No important competitive matches in the near future so an interim coach can run the ship til a new President is elected and can select the coach. I don't fully understand why he's so determined to be re-elected. He said he submitted a letter asking the board to nominate him for the election. I suppose they could decline to nominate him but that seems unlikely.
RE: Huh??  
Del Shofner : 10/13/2017 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13647124 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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By the way - Gulati staying on is a terrible development.


FMiC - Gulati's term expires in February and he is not guaranteed re-election, assuming he runs. He will be opposed this time.

In the meantime, we're still bidding for a WC in 202_ (whatever it is), and someone has to be in charge of that until February. That's actually the kind of thing that Sunil is good at. He's a very smart guy (Bucknell, after all) and a much-liked economics prof at Columbia. He's just not the right guy to lead the on-the-field aspects of the program.

Hopefully he'll read tea leaves and decide not to run again.
Blaming Arena  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/13/2017 3:20 pm : link
Is like blaming the fireman for failing to save a building that was a roaring inferno when he showed up.
RE: Mourinho actually wouldn't be a bad fit  
Kyle in NY : 10/13/2017 3:31 pm : link
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I stand corrected then. Would certainly be interesting
Attracting A Proven Coach Will Be Difficult  
Jeffrey : 10/13/2017 3:38 pm : link
Basically you are hiring someone who will not be able to test the progress of his team/system for at least 2-3 years before the next serious competition. Quality coaches want to compete, not wait. US soccer is not competing for anything before the next Gold Cup--which is not a major competition.
I wouldn't mind  
Gene : 10/13/2017 4:34 pm : link
seeing Patrick Vieira get a look, but he's already mentioned he's not the man for the job. I'm going to guess Peter Vermes, Oscar Pareja or some other MLS-centric coach.
I'd love to see  
JohnF : 10/13/2017 5:08 pm : link
Jürgen Klopp (Liverpool Manager) take the job, though that's just a pipe dream. This guy would be perfect promoting the game here, he'd have the media eating out of his hand. Doubt that he'd be interested, though, or that the US would select another German after Klinsmann.

If you wanted to troll Mexico, though, we could get the only coach who can turn Super Saiyan, Miguel Herrera:

Sweet Christ,  
Tim in Capital City : 10/13/2017 5:10 pm : link
Can we please get rid of the “we’re not a great soccer nation because our best players don’t play soccer” argument? It is the laziest of lazy arguments, and complete and utter horseshit if you even spend one second thinking about it.

It’ll take a major revolt for Gulati to lose his reelection (I’m assuming he runs). There’s a sports lawyer in Boston who is running. And Wynalda will probably run. But it’s a major uphill battle for anyone. The one argument for keeping Gulati is that our WC bid would be hurt if we got rid of him. I doubt that’s true, but I don’t really know.
WC bid would be hurt?  
B in ALB : 10/13/2017 5:31 pm : link
What's that mean?
these suggested managers (pep, mou)  
Nitro : 10/13/2017 5:50 pm : link
are ten levels of delusion away from reality.
B in ALB  
Tim in Capital City : 10/13/2017 5:59 pm : link
I’ve had people tell me that Gulati is arguing that he’s a key part of the US/Mexico/Canada 2026 WC bid, and that the odds of our bid winning would decrease if Gulati was not in charge. My gut says that’s bullshit, but I don’t know how the politics of FIFA work.
RE: these suggested managers (pep, mou)  
Go Terps : 10/13/2017 6:10 pm : link
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are ten levels of delusion away from reality.


My actual suggestion would be Jesse Marsch. I get to watch him a ton, supporting the Red Bulls. He's a very good in game manager, tinkering with formations and making changes on the fly to good effect. He's also good at incorporating new players and identifying what they do well. Smart guy.
Tim  
Nitro : 10/13/2017 6:21 pm : link
he can stay in charge of the bid without being head of USSF.
I am a fan of Oscar Pareja  
moespree : 10/13/2017 9:37 pm : link
I think he should be involved in some capacity. Manager? I don't know. I'm actually not sure he'd get them any further than anyone else has in all honesty, but I think he should have some role. He seems to have an eye for and desire to finding and cultivating youth. You could worse than him if that's the direction they want to move in.
RE: RE: these suggested managers (pep, mou)  
Jeffrey : 10/14/2017 8:09 am : link
In comment 13647315 Go Terps said:
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are ten levels of delusion away from reality.



My actual suggestion would be Jesse Marsch. I get to watch him a ton, supporting the Red Bulls. He's a very good in game manager, tinkering with formations and making changes on the fly to good effect. He's also good at incorporating new players and identifying what they do well. Smart guy.


Marsch wants to coach in Europe, but, like you, I think that he would be a strong hire, tireless worker and adaptable. Notwithstanding the Red Bulls ho hum season this year, it has been great watching the coach manage the transition to younger players.
RE: B in ALB  
section125 : 10/14/2017 8:39 am : link
In comment 13647306 Tim in Capital City said:
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I’ve had people tell me that Gulati is arguing that he’s a key part of the US/Mexico/Canada 2026 WC bid, and that the odds of our bid winning would decrease if Gulati was not in charge. My gut says that’s bullshit, but I don’t know how the politics of FIFA work.


I would argue that the failure of the US to get to the WC is a reason for FIFA to not "back" him. Their ratings in the US will be down. The garbage of the last 7 years shows his leadership of US Soccer is terrible. Many people can do better. Picking Klinsmann was a disaster and doomed 2018 as the team never got out fron underneath 2014.
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Tim in Capital City : 10/15/2017 12:36 pm : link
In comment 13647905 section125 said:
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I’ve had people tell me that Gulati is arguing that he’s a key part of the US/Mexico/Canada 2026 WC bid, and that the odds of our bid winning would decrease if Gulati was not in charge. My gut says that’s bullshit, but I don’t know how the politics of FIFA work.



I would argue that the failure of the US to get to the WC is a reason for FIFA to not "back" him. Their ratings in the US will be down. The garbage of the last 7 years shows his leadership of US Soccer is terrible. Many people can do better. Picking Klinsmann was a disaster and doomed 2018 as the team never got out fron underneath 2014.


FIFA likes the status quo, and they like Gulati. He is part of the establishment. He’s a known entity. I think FIFA would prefer we keep Gulati than bring in someone like Wynalda who has no reason to not push for change within FIFA. Also, perhaps I’m not thinking about this properly, but I don’t think FIFA will make less money than they would have otherwise. Sure, ticket sales to the three US games may have been better than ticket sales for the three Panama/Honduras games, but ratings wise, Fox will take the hit for that, not FIFA.
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