Geno or Webb?

But whats the point of putting him out there with a shitty O Line, shitty WR and terrible play calling? We don't want to David Carr him.

I was going to suggest that they might as well see what they've got. But, yeah, how are they going to tell much of anything under the circumstances.

is inactive Sunday night.

But I'd like to see him against that defense.

It is critical for the Giants to see what they have in Webb before they inevitably draft a franchise QB in the top 5 this upcoming draft.

I don't care how bad the offensive line or skill position players are. We need to see what he can do in a real regular season environment.

But that means the Giants would put in Geno. Plus we are not really sure if Webb has enough first team reps and might not be ready.

Give him playing time over Geno

The Gmen offensive line, with the TOP WR threat being Roger Lewis Jr. No running game.

I doubt you're getting an accurate reading on what ANY qb had to offer in this offense.

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Geno comes off the bench if Eli gets hurt during the game. If Eli misses games, start Webb. We are done for the year, need to see what we have with Webb.

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is getting blown out of proportion.

Eli has very little mobility. His pocket presence is not what it used to be.

Look at Stafford against us. The pocket collapsed, he burst for a few yards, and slid. Eli doesn't have that burst, so he just takes the sack.

Webb is younger with way better mobility, I would like to see him come and see how he deals with some adversity. There is never going to be a perfect opportunity to throw someone in at Qb.

Cynical answer- Start Geno until he either gets killed or proves everyone wrong and shows that he actually can play.
Either way Webb comes in as relief in last 3-4 games.
If Webb is long term answer (is he mobile?) Giants will sit in great draft position. Trade high pick for veteran OL and numerous draft picks.
If not.... hello 3 year rebuild

because the Two guards and center are generally getting pushed back and there is no pocket to step up into. It all starts up front and with the Giants it just crumbles away.

have in Webb, but not as relief of Eli. That is setting him up to fail. They should decide early in the week to start him, so they can give him the starter's reps and all the other starter's preparation. That's giving him an opportunity to succeed.

If the Giants are getting blown out and want to save Eli, then Geno should come in.

Geno

Make Webb the #2 so he gets practice snaps. Make all 3 qbs active every sunday for awhile. If Eli gets hurt before the kid has had a few weeks of practice, put in Geno. But if Eli stays healthy past that point, stop making Geno active and let Webb come in if necessary.

Webb is reportedly inactive:

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Tom Rock‏Verified account @TomRock_Newsday 4h4 hours ago Here are your inactives for Sunday night: Jonathan Casillas, Romeo Okwara, Paul Perkins, Weston Richburg, Sterling Shepard, Olivier Vernon, Davis Webb.

do you think Eli is part of the problem... i.e., hurting the team?

I'm not sure it even matters anymore at 0-5, but if we were 2-3 and still in the running to have a meaningful season... and you thought that Eli was hurting the team, then you could consider making a change.

In that case, I think you go with Geno but even that choice comes down to whether you think he has any chance of resurrecting his career. I am not as down on Geno as most here are. He's got a good arm, he is mobile and he is still young. If he could harness his talent and cut down on the dumb mistakes, he could be something worth considering long term... thus getting him some reps now and trying to win games might make sense.

but... considering where we are (season down the tubes) then the question is: do you think Geno has any shot of resurrecting his career?

if you are convinced Geno is a waste and not worth the effort, then it makes more sense to go directly to Webb so you can see if there is anything there to get excited about and build upon. It's not realistic to think he'll save the season but better to lose with a young potential future QB earning reps rather than a vet whose expiration date is showing.

It doesn't make sense to start Webb. He got very little reps in preseason practice and it has the makings to get very ugly. Little go gain a lot (confidence) to lose.

As the season progresses, you don't sit a franchise quarterback like Manning. I see a benefit to getting Webb a series or 2 which may progress to more through out the season. You give him a chance of some success while seeing what he has. It can be rationally communicated to Eli that you are our quarterback but with our draft position it is hard to pass up a top QB in the draft and it is in his best interests for them to see what Webb has. (A top 5 pick in the draft needs to replace Eli next season, a 3rd round pick (Webb) can wait seasons.)

Is it possible to do that? I think it is if there was talk from someone who is going to be there long term. That is a good reason why at minimum, Reese needs to go now. I think Gettleman could have that conversation and would have the credibility.

would Webb even be active? The Giants only activate 2 QBs. And as someone said, Webb has had very few reps since he's the #3. They'd have to give him a lot more reps for a month before putting him in instead of Geno if Eli was hurt.

But honestly I see zero point to it. He makes sense if we're in a playoff race holding out for a game or two until Eli returns, but in the current state he serves no purpose. If Eli goes down you might as well see what the rookie has. And at least Webb would give fans a reason to tune in. Geno running this offense, for what? If Eli goes down 100% guarantee the team packs it in. And if by miracle they somehow eek out a win with Geno no one will care anyway.

But I never said anything about a blowout. The Giants would have to be up by at least three scores well into the fourth quarter for them to consider bring in Geno or Webb.

unless and until he's ready and that is probably not this season.

Everyone wants to put this guy on training wheels. If it's a blowout, let the guy play. It's NFL in 2017, rookie QB's play and make impacts all the time.

career. Geno has no future with this team, Webb may have on, so go to Webb.