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NFT: ALCS - Yankees @ Astros - Game One - Tanaka

adamg : 10/13/2017 5:29 pm


If Denny is busy elsewhere, we'll just have to step it up without him. Let's go Yankees!
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RE: and I'll keep banging the drum  
section125 : 10/13/2017 11:40 pm : link
In comment 13647795 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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Girardi has to protect Judge and make a fuss about these low strikes.


Girardi needs to bring it up in the press conferences. Say something like Judge is not getting a fair strike zone. The New York reporters know the umps are flat out taking the bat out of Judge's hands. Give the writers something to write about. The league office doesn't want bad press. It is not one bad call once in a while. It is at least one call every at bat.
Bullshit on a good loss  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/13/2017 11:41 pm : link
They had 1st and 2nd no outs on mistake !!!! Had to bunt !!!!
I know you sabermetricians out there love guys who strike out  
Stu11 : 10/13/2017 11:41 pm : link
but this team needs to start making some more contact. They can't keep striking out 15 times a game. Spending 3 and a half hours watching them swing at that garbage all night was not pleasant. Thankfully we finally get someone tomorrow night who actually throws the ball over the plate once in awhile. Yes we got our usually fucking of balls called strikes but tonight it was on us swinging at way way way too many crappy 3rd strikes. Damnit its frustrating to hold this team to 2 runs and like 6 baserunners and lose!
RE: RE: Umpire isn't swinging at sliders 8 inches outside the zone  
KerrysFlask : 10/13/2017 11:41 pm : link
In comment 13647785 dune69 said:
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No excuse.

This game is fucking boring.

Yay for bird. If he knew how to run the fucking bases like a little leaguer does, this would be tied.



Go fuck yourself. Idiot.


I can't. I just fucked your mom. I need a minute.

Don't be mad at me, retard. I didn't swing at that garbage.
RE: Have to say  
BigBlue4You09 : 10/13/2017 11:43 pm : link
In comment 13647786 Matt in SGS said:
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Im not all that impressed with Houston. The Yankees were still hungover. If Verlander doesnt pitch well, the Yankees are going to push their shit in and go back 1-1


You clearly haven't seen much of them. Yanks blew a great chance at stealing this game in Houston. They have the best offense in baseball, we'll be lucky to keep them to 2 runs a game.
RE: RE: RE: Umpire isn't swinging at sliders 8 inches outside the zone  
dune69 : 10/13/2017 11:43 pm : link
In comment 13647804 KerrysFlask said:
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No excuse.

This game is fucking boring.

Yay for bird. If he knew how to run the fucking bases like a little leaguer does, this would be tied.



Go fuck yourself. Idiot.



I can't. I just fucked your mom. I need a minute.

Don't be mad at me, retard. I didn't swing at that garbage.


Where do you trolls come from during the playoffs???
RE: RE: Have to say  
Matt in SGS : 10/13/2017 11:44 pm : link
In comment 13647800 HomerJones45 said:
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Im not all that impressed with Houston. The Yankees were still hungover. If Verlander doesnt pitch well, the Yankees are going to push their shit in and go back 1-1

you apparently haven't watched much of the Astros. Very deep lineup. Much better hitting team than Cleveland. Can explode at any time. Disappointing the Yanks didnt win tonight with Tanaka holding them to 2 runs. You don't hold Houston to 2 runs very often


I watched them. I see 2 guys who hurt you in Altuve and Correra. The rest can be pitched to. Houston can't win a slugfest against the Yankees because the Yankees pen is much more likely to stop the bleeding than Houston's will. Let's see what Verlander does tomorrow. If he has a bad start, unless Sevy is dogshit, Houston is in a lot of trouble tomorrow.
RE: RE: and I'll keep banging the drum  
Stu11 : 10/13/2017 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13647801 section125 said:
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In comment 13647795 PaulBlakeTSU said:


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Girardi has to protect Judge and make a fuss about these low strikes.



Girardi needs to bring it up in the press conferences. Say something like Judge is not getting a fair strike zone. The New York reporters know the umps are flat out taking the bat out of Judge's hands. Give the writers something to write about. The league office doesn't want bad press. It is not one bad call once in a while. It is at least one call every at bat.

This x 100,000!
Girardi out there yucking it up with the umpire between innings about the roof. How about maybe mentioning how fucked his young superstar is getting AB after AB after AB. It was good to see Smoltz and Buck mention it late
RE: RE: RE: Umpire isn't swinging at sliders 8 inches outside the zone  
section125 : 10/13/2017 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13647804 KerrysFlask said:
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No excuse.

This game is fucking boring.

Yay for bird. If he knew how to run the fucking bases like a little leaguer does, this would be tied.



Go fuck yourself. Idiot.



I can't. I just fucked your mom. I need a minute.

Don't be mad at me, retard. I didn't swing at that garbage.


Try a civil tongue. You made a stupid post and got called on it. Are you in middle school with that retort?
RE: RE: RE: Umpire isn't swinging at sliders 8 inches outside the zone  
BigBlueShock : 10/13/2017 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13647804 KerrysFlask said:
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In comment 13647782 KerrysFlask said:


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No excuse.

This game is fucking boring.

Yay for bird. If he knew how to run the fucking bases like a little leaguer does, this would be tied.



Go fuck yourself. Idiot.



I can't. I just fucked your mom. I need a minute.

Don't be mad at me, retard. I didn't swing at that garbage.
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Time for this ass clown to be banned. Intentionally trolling game threads is a no no, correct?
RE: RE: RE: Umpire isn't swinging at sliders 8 inches outside the zone  
02/03/2008 : 10/13/2017 11:47 pm : link
Ignore the troll

n comment 13647804 KerrysFlask said:
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In comment 13647782 KerrysFlask said:


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No excuse.

This game is fucking boring.

Yay for bird. If he knew how to run the fucking bases like a little leaguer does, this would be tied.



Go fuck yourself. Idiot.



I can't. I just fucked your mom. I need a minute.

Don't be mad at me, retard. I didn't swing at that garbage.
people can  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/13/2017 11:47 pm : link
downplay Houston's offense all they want but they have the 4th best wRC+ since 1900. The entire lineup puts in work.

Troll?  
KerrysFlask : 10/13/2017 11:49 pm : link
Who the fuck are you dune69?

I've been on this board SINCE Kerry fucking Collins was QB.

YOU go fuck YOURSELF.
people are also  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/13/2017 11:51 pm : link
downplaying Keuchel's deception.

He's not throwing garbage. He's making excellent pitches that look like strikes but are unhittable because they drop off so much. Many of them have late action.

I hate his stupid beard, but he doesn't have a .70 postseason ERA (4 starts) and a Cy Young to his name by accident.
RE: RE: RE: Umpire isn't swinging at sliders 8 inches outside the zone  
RasputinPrime : 10/13/2017 11:52 pm : link
In comment 13647804 KerrysFlask said:
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No excuse.

This game is fucking boring.

Yay for bird. If he knew how to run the fucking bases like a little leaguer does, this would be tied.



Go fuck yourself. Idiot.



I can't. I just fucked your mom. I need a minute.

Don't be mad at me, retard. I didn't swing at that garbage.


With respect,
RE: RE: RE: RE: Umpire isn't swinging at sliders 8 inches outside the zone  
KerrysFlask : 10/13/2017 11:52 pm : link
In comment 13647809 section125 said:
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No excuse.

This game is fucking boring.

Yay for bird. If he knew how to run the fucking bases like a little leaguer does, this would be tied.



Go fuck yourself. Idiot.



I can't. I just fucked your mom. I need a minute.

Don't be mad at me, retard. I didn't swing at that garbage.



Try a civil tongue. You made a stupid post and got called on it. Are you in middle school with that retort?


Haha.. A civil tongue?

I didn't say shit to that guy and he comes at me with "go fuck yourself" for no reason, and I'm the troll?
RE: people can  
Stu11 : 10/13/2017 11:53 pm : link
In comment 13647813 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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downplay Houston's offense all they want but they have the 4th best wRC+ since 1900. The entire lineup puts in work.

Yea there is nothing to down play. They can score runs by the 5's. That's why it's so frustrating to hold them to 2 and lose.
See you all tomorrow  
section125 : 10/13/2017 11:53 pm : link
and hopefully the troll is gone. Too bad a decent thread is ruined by an internet loud mouth.
RE: people are also  
RasputinPrime : 10/13/2017 11:54 pm : link
In comment 13647816 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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downplaying Keuchel's deception.

He's not throwing garbage. He's making excellent pitches that look like strikes but are unhittable because they drop off so much. Many of them have late action.

I hate his stupid beard, but he doesn't have a .70 postseason ERA (4 starts) and a Cy Young to his name by accident.


It's not an accident at all. He has deception and excellent command. If hitters are screwed into expanding the zone because he is getting bonus inches in each direction it's game over.
RE: people can  
Matt in SGS : 10/13/2017 11:54 pm : link
In comment 13647813 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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downplay Houston's offense all they want but they have the 4th best wRC+ since 1900. The entire lineup puts in work.


Houston has a good offense, they have some names and guys who put up numbers. But I don't see a mid 1990s Yankees or Indians offense here. And Hinch knows his pen blows. He left beardo out there much longer than you'd figure in a game 1 and went right to his closer with 5 outs to go, and effectly burned him out for tomorrow. They went to Verlander in Game 4 because he knew they'd blow the game in Fenway. The odds of their pen holding the Yankees offense down for more than 6 outs is extremely low. The Yankees pen is fully loaded tomorrow. I'll stand by what I said. They need a big start from Verlander or they are going to get hammered. And Judge and Sanchez are ticking timebombs. At some point, someone is going to pay.
RE: people are also  
mfsd : 10/13/2017 11:54 pm : link
In comment 13647816 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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downplaying Keuchel's deception.

He's not throwing garbage. He's making excellent pitches that look like strikes but are unhittable because they drop off so much. Many of them have late action.

I hate his stupid beard, but he doesn't have a .70 postseason ERA (4 starts) and a Cy Young to his name by accident.


I also think his pitches move so much they fool the ump too...many of them look like a strike, maybe they break late a few inches off the plate, and thats part of why he gets a lot of calls.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Umpire isn't swinging at sliders 8 inches outside the zone  
02/03/2008 : 10/13/2017 11:55 pm : link
Troll

In comment 13647818 KerrysFlask said:
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In comment 13647804 KerrysFlask said:


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No excuse.

This game is fucking boring.

Yay for bird. If he knew how to run the fucking bases like a little leaguer does, this would be tied.



Go fuck yourself. Idiot.



I can't. I just fucked your mom. I need a minute.

Don't be mad at me, retard. I didn't swing at that garbage.



Try a civil tongue. You made a stupid post and got called on it. Are you in middle school with that retort?



Haha.. A civil tongue?

I didn't say shit to that guy and he comes at me with "go fuck yourself" for no reason, and I'm the troll?
RE: people are also  
KerrysFlask : 10/13/2017 11:57 pm : link
In comment 13647816 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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downplaying Keuchel's deception.

He's not throwing garbage. He's making excellent pitches that look like strikes but are unhittable because they drop off so much. Many of them have late action.



You're absolutely right. It's the late movement that is fooling these guys so bad... It's not garbage. It's just frustrating. You've got to expect it after a couple times through the order.
We were supposed to be scared shitless of Cleveland too, right?  
bceagle05 : 10/13/2017 11:59 pm : link
Houston could sweep us for all I know, but I like the pitching matchups going forward, and I like our pen a lot better than theirs. I expect a long series.
I thought Tanaka really pitched a gem though  
KerrysFlask : 10/14/2017 12:02 am : link
Confidence in him was shaky since it was a road start, but he looked damn good.

Just couldn't get him the run support.
A few notes vs. Verlander:  
Stu11 : 10/14/2017 12:03 am : link
-Heads is 6-15 with 3 xbh's so expect him to DH
-Frazier is 5-17 with 2 HR's
-Didi has a small sample size 2-6 with a HR/Double
Close  
Percy : 10/14/2017 12:04 am : link
Very close game. They lost this one. Could have turned out differently. Let's see what happens tomorrow.
I think they're gonna pound Verlander  
Greg from LI : 10/14/2017 1:33 am : link
Very confident going into game 2
Guys who strike out s ton  
Vanzetti : 10/14/2017 1:46 am : link
Never get the benefit of the doubt on close pitches. Just the way it is. A guy with a good eye like Joey Votto is going to get ball four on the same pitch that is strike three to Judgez.

That and he is young. Vets get the calls, not rookies
Judge had 3 really good PAs in the game, yet was totally  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/14/2017 1:54 am : link
screwed by the ump on his strikeout. The guy called 2 pitches in nearly the exact same spot first a ball, then a strike.

I'm not even sure what to do with the DH spot at this point. Clint Frazier... come on down, you're the next contestant on The Price Is Right!

It's amazing that they still can't hit Keuchel even with a completely different group of players.

Good bounce back by Green. Excellent start by Tanaka. The second run was rather unlucky.
RE: Guys who strike out s ton  
Kyle in NY : 10/14/2017 3:29 am : link
In comment 13647855 Vanzetti said:
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Never get the benefit of the doubt on close pitches. Just the way it is. A guy with a good eye like Joey Votto is going to get ball four on the same pitch that is strike three to Judgez.

That and he is young. Vets get the calls, not rookies


Judge led the league in walks. He has a good eye and knows what's a strike is and what isn't. He and Girardi would be well served at this point to have a quick word with an umpire because at least 5 of these strikeouts have been from the bat being taken out of his hands.
Sad when a guy throws a pitch 5 inches outside  
hitdog42 : 10/14/2017 7:21 am : link
And its called a ball
He then throws the same pitch 3 inches outside... and because it hits the catchers glove its called a strike.

Keuchel is very much like a poor mans glavine/maddux type who forces guys to expand the zone. You cant swing for the fences with that type.... you have to sit on offspeed and be happy to move runners along.. especially when its clear he is on. If hes not on thats another story
RE: Bullshit on a good loss  
Tuckrule : 10/14/2017 7:41 am : link
In comment 13647802 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:
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They had 1st and 2nd no outs on mistake !!!! Had to bunt !!!!


Yea with Todd Frazier. Good idea couch manager
Yankees are seething all kinds of bad...  
Crispino : 10/14/2017 8:14 am : link
marks for offense in the post season. The strikeouts are coming at a record pace, and we still haven't gotten a single base hit from the DH slot. Judge is almost an automatic out in the 2 spot. Ugh. Gotta break out.
RE: Yankees are seething all kinds of bad...  
BigBlueShock : 10/14/2017 8:20 am : link
In comment 13647896 Crispino said:
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marks for offense in the post season. The strikeouts are coming at a record pace, and we still haven't gotten a single base hit from the DH slot. Judge is almost an automatic out in the 2 spot. Ugh. Gotta break out.

Judge had a hit and a walk. And got screwed out of another walk. How's that make for an automatic out? The pitchers refuse to throw him pitches in the strike zone and continue to get rewarded by bullshit strike calls.
RE: RE: RE: Have to say  
HomerJones45 : 10/14/2017 8:30 am : link
In comment 13647807 Matt in SGS said:
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Im not all that impressed with Houston. The Yankees were still hungover. If Verlander doesnt pitch well, the Yankees are going to push their shit in and go back 1-1

you apparently haven't watched much of the Astros. Very deep lineup. Much better hitting team than Cleveland. Can explode at any time. Disappointing the Yanks didnt win tonight with Tanaka holding them to 2 runs. You don't hold Houston to 2 runs very often



I watched them. I see 2 guys who hurt you in Altuve and Correra. The rest can be pitched to. Houston can't win a slugfest against the Yankees because the Yankees pen is much more likely to stop the bleeding than Houston's will. Let's see what Verlander does tomorrow. If he has a bad start, unless Sevy is dogshit, Houston is in a lot of trouble tomorrow.
If you say so. I think the Yankees blew an opportunity yesterday.
I don't see it as a blown opportunity  
Matt M. : 10/14/2017 8:51 am : link
They had little opportunity. It was a pitcher's duel against one of the best in the league who was on his game. Bird made a bad roomie mistake on the bases which likely would have been 1 run, but there is no guarantee they would have scored again that inning.
Blown opportunity?  
BigBlueShock : 10/14/2017 9:03 am : link
Maybe. If you hold Houston to two runs you'd hope to win the game. However, this was always going to be a very difficult game to win. Keuchel dominates the Yankees and he had his best stuff. You also have to take a game 5 hangover into consideration. It's extremely tough to bounce back from a game like that immediately. And the Yankees didn't do the one thing they need to do to win this series, get to the Houston bullpen. That is the weakness of their team.

I never had much hope for game 1, they had a lot going against them. But I completely expect them to win tonight. And in the aftermath, watch as Kate Upton hops on the Yankees charter for the flight to NY, leaving Mr. Verlander laying in the fetal position with his thumb in his mouth, crying that he wants his mommy.
I know Judge had a hit last night, but...  
Crispino : 10/14/2017 9:11 am : link
he's still hitting .148 with around 20 strikeouts in the post season. I'm not bashing him, just pointing out offensive struggles in the post season. I certainly want to see them turn it around.
My goodness  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/14/2017 9:38 am : link
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RE: I know Judge had a hit last night, but...  
section125 : 10/14/2017 10:14 am : link
In comment 13647931 Crispino said:
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he's still hitting .148 with around 20 strikeouts in the post season. I'm not bashing him, just pointing out offensive struggles in the post season. I certainly want to see them turn it around.


Very hard to hit when:

1.) At least one pitch per AB is called a strike that isn't

2.) You refuse to take the belt/thigh high outside pitch to right/right center

He isn't the only one - Sanchez and Castro are basically doing the same thing...
someone on Reddit  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/14/2017 10:16 am : link
went into painstaking detail on Judge's umpiring and strike zone this postseason
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/76ahj1/aaron_judges_strikezone_this_postseason_analysis/ - ( New Window )
In think the Judge struggling takes are overrated  
BH28 : 10/14/2017 12:38 pm : link
Not just here, but in the media as well. People look at a box score, see the strikeouts, and say he's struggling.

It's not like he's free swinging, seeing 3 pitches and sitting down. He's still walking, and still getting to a ton of 3-2 counts. He's gotten boned on as few of those strikeouts.

As mentioned, I think Girardi needs to talk to the umpires about the bs strike calls and stop rewarding pitchers for being afraid to pitch to judge.
Who are some of these  
B in ALB : 10/14/2017 12:49 pm : link
Bandwagon assholes suddenly posting on Yankees threads? Crawl back in your fuckin holes.
Welp  
djm : 10/14/2017 1:15 pm : link
BBI is now blaming girardi for the umps strike zone. What's next blame girardi for the weather? Probably did that too lol.
You don't really know whether girardi is or isn't  
djm : 10/14/2017 1:19 pm : link
Saying shit to the umps and whether talking shit to umps makes any damn difference anyway.

It's fun to find things to blame girardi on though.

I don't think anyone is blaming Girardi  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/14/2017 1:38 pm : link
I, and others, are suggesting that if Judge won't make his case to the umps, then Girardi should step in and make a bit of a fuss and let it known that he's irate about it.

Managers/coaches across all sports have been doing it since the beginning of sports. If a star player is getting consistently mistreated, sometimes you have to make a public appeal or a public show of it to put pressure on the umps.
I  
mitch300 : 10/14/2017 1:45 pm : link
Can't think of another pitcher who would be more effected from an electronic strike zone than Keuchel. All pitchers at times may get a little help from the ump. But, come on. Every time the Yanks play him the strike zone has expanded.
lazy throw  
MookGiants : 10/14/2017 7:10 pm : link
by Gregorius and Judge. Sanchez needs to come up with it though. FUCK

Interference at 2nd should be called
Yankees  
billy from the bronx : 10/14/2017 8:24 pm : link
Good thing that Verlander signed with Astros, or if he were on the Yankees he would have been taken out in the seventh to fit Joe's formula . Robertson was great but had to hand the ball over to Chapman to fit formula. Let the best pitcher stay in until he is in trouble.
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