I only ask because it would seem that if you really want this team to make the turn around the same to root forright now would be more losses. In fact the more brutal the losses the better chance we would see a complete purging of the front office and a better chance at picking at the top of the draft.
Now, while I jumped off the bandwagon super early (Eagles game), I also fail to see anything we currently have in house that brings me a sense of confidence that we are being led by the right people. Also, given the Maras' history, it will take something cataclysmic to overhaul the whole thing. A 2 or 3 win season and the lockerrom in uproar could be just that thing.
Lastly, Eli is at the end. Everybody knows that. Having our choice of the entire field for his successor in next years draft is a carrot that is just irresistable for me. It is exceptionally rare for a team to have a franchise QB that another highly rat3d prospect can learn from. Not only that, but picking high means we can still pick higher rated linemen and compete next year.
Even if you are one of those who subscribes to the trade down and acquire more picks theory, pkcking that high yields more. My whole thing, is this season was a disaster. So cut the bait and start over.
Im only curious because I still see people mentioning our chances of beating an opponent. This team has already bucked this coaching staff. There is no Odell to root for. It felt very strange to root for a Giants loss, but I want to see this team competing sooner rather than later, and them losing is the quickest way to that
Major changes need to be made - some BS “run” that piles up meaningless wins will do nothing but hinder this teams ability to land a top prospect and start the rebuild.
Also, this team really doesn’t warrant “rooting for”. Dysfunctional joke of a team ... Having said that - flying out to Denver as my road trip. I’ll make the most of Denver as a city ... and start some Broncos on DraftKings.
Major changes need to be made - some BS “run” that piles up meaningless wins will do nothing but hinder this teams ability to land a top prospect and start the rebuild.
Also, this team really doesn’t warrant “rooting for”. Dysfunctional joke of a team ... Having said that - flying out to Denver as my road trip. I’ll make the most of Denver as a city ... and start some Broncos on DraftKings.
Exactly. I was able to root for the 0-6 team because I loved Coughlin and wanted to see the team fight. But I have zero love for BM and Reese and need a change of pace.
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Yes, I am rooting for them to lose - and I don’t feel bad about it
Major changes need to be made - some BS “run” that piles up meaningless wins will do nothing but hinder this teams ability to land a top prospect and start the rebuild.
Also, this team really doesn’t warrant “rooting for”. Dysfunctional joke of a team ... Having said that - flying out to Denver as my road trip. I’ll make the most of Denver as a city ... and start some Broncos on DraftKings.
Exactly. I was able to root for the 0-6 team because I loved Coughlin and wanted to see the team fight. But I have zero love for BM and Reese and need a change of pace.
Agreed. It is tough to say I am rooting for them to lose but by rooting for them to lose I see a quicker turnaround if they do it right. So, by wanting them to lose in the short time I see them winning sooner in the long term.
GREAT ANALOGY!!!!
Best-case for my druthers, at this point - win only as many as 1 fewer than the next highest. Get the first pick and the top of the second, etc.
Secondly, I can't actually cheer for the Giants to make bad plays. When I'm watching the game, good football plays by the Giants still get me jacked with an involuntary "yea!"
Having said that, every year I want the Giants to win the SB and, if not, then end up with the #1 pick (or as close to it as possible). That never changes.
So, I can't actively root for them to play bad. Nor can I root for them to miss a field goal, etc. But at the same time I'm not going to be upset if they lose a game (or every game) and get the #1 pick in the draft.
I’ll take 0-16 if it beats out a 1-15 Browns team or a 1-15 SF.
Your #1 receiver was previously your 4th-5th receiver....basically playing two street guys at the other positions, because nobody claimed them...
A rookie TE, that is playing like a rookie....
Your starting RB, was #4 on the depth chart...
And this hodgepodge of a merrygoround OL?
These are the kinds of players you expect to be seeing in the 4th quarter of a preseason game, and they will be up against a seasoned starting unit....
And here is Mac....."Go get 'em Eli! You have my full support!"
Never mind one DE is injured, and the other is a no show for games....Snacks must feel like he is playing alone out there.....RB's and TE's running against our linebackers are probably laughing so much, it's a wonder they catch those passes....
And our once vaunted defensive backfield, has an injured Collins playing, Jenkins(only DB who has been solid through all this), Apple, who has been cored by opposing receivers, and Thompson, who seemed to be in the right place at the right time last game.....with no pressure/pass rush, these guys will be severely tested......
Oh, did I mention that Denver has not one, but two RB's, that can take it to the house, by land or air?
"Losing is a disease....ah, but curable." Only problem is, it may take another 2-3 years to cure it....
I thought this team would win the division....get a bye even......because I believed what Reese was throwing down our throats....
The OL will be better, with another year behind them, and don't forget, we have Solari coaching them up....
We now have a blocking TE and FB, and we will be able to run the ball......
Marshall will replace Cruz.......
Hankins isn't worth the money, and besides, we have a 3 headed monstah that can replace him....
We don't need a vet presence in the backfield, like Blount, we are all set...
FS? Don't need one, we got two....
Linebackers? We'll bring back Robinson, keep Thomas, Goodson is the goods, and Kennard is finally going to be one of those late round draft picks that Reese has been searching for....
I bought into it, like the rest of you guys......It's another two weeks until Halloween, and it's over.....It's just hard to believe that even I could be sucked in....
11-5? Yes, it turns out it was a mirage of sorts.....we won some close ones.....the defense could hold a 4th quarter lead.....We turned the corner, but never saw what was coming around it....
With this offensive lineup, scoring is almost a joke, even if, only two balls hit the ground in practice.....the defensive line, with no pressure, will make average QB's look much better than they are......
This is one freakin' mess.....
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So I'm rooting for one win; they can lose all the rest.
I’ll take 0-16 if it beats out a 1-15 Browns team or a 1-15 SF.
Good for you?
0-16 is something this organization, or any one, will never live down. I'm not into the "soft" aspects of fandom usually, but I can't get behind this one.
A. When has a Reese pick ever been guaranteed anything?
B. The bust rate for high pick QBs is real.
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rooting for your team to lose is like hoping your wife has an affair so you will appreciate her more.
GREAT ANALOGY!!!!
Wrong. It's hoping your wife will cheat so you can get rid of the slut legally and draft your #1 side chick.
I hate mediocrity.
I want to see the Giants win another Super Bowl and I will endure the pain of loses if it means that they will be great next year.
I cannot stand missing playoffs year after year.
Hard to take this stuff seriously, anymore.
I'm rooting eli doesn't get hurt (manning) and also rooting for Macadoo to be ... let go of his duties
Sadly, after 5 weeks we are all counting down the days for the offseason. The first two weeks were both prime time games, I was never able to even enjoy a Sunday afternoon game this season, I just feel so cheated...
This. I want no part of 0-16.
Though if little, or nothing, changes with how they play, I will be rooting for Coaching and Front Office changes before too many more games go by. I am close now.
but priority number 1 is the OL number 2 a big outside WR marshall has been awful and is a stop gap anyway another CB is also fairly high on the priority and a DE to add strength behind jpp and vernon is also on par with another DB need wise
So, for me... it's just a matter of wanting to see some players who could be part of the solution play well. Guys like Gallman.. any of the linemen... Engram, Goodson.. I'd like to see Apple improve. Darian Thompson.
It's more an individual performance thing at this point.
The results of the games don't matter. It's the development of players who could help us going forward.
It's weird and it's tough.. even when I watch a Giants game knowing it's better if they lose, I still have a hard time hoping they do. I think the mentality is more just... whatever happens, happens.. as far as the score goes. But I still want to see guys play well.
At 0-5 and a run to meaningful games late in the year still a possibility, if they are playing well and in the game, I will probably root for the win.
But there will be none of the usual crappy feelings if they lose.
It s similar to Handley s second season, you knew the team needed major change and it was tough to get behind them
Unlike most though, barring a special finish to the next 11 games, Inghink Reese is gone.
Also the chance at the. Next franchise quarterback is appealing.
Last time I rooted for Giants to lose was when Elinwas coming out.
So, for me... it's just a matter of wanting to see some players who could be part of the solution play well. Guys like Gallman.. any of the linemen... Engram, Goodson.. I'd like to see Apple improve. Darian Thompson.
It's more an individual performance thing at this point.
The results of the games don't matter. It's the development of players who could help us going forward.
Agree. It's like we have 11 preseason games left. (But win at least 1 dammit!)
And I rather have a top 3 pick at 1-15 than first overall at 0-16
The Giants can’t be 0-16
At the end of the day, even if we pick 10th instead of first, hypothetically, this team is far beyond the help of ONLY the number one pick. And there's no guarantee the top few picks turn into studs. That said, I'd rather win a few, maybe upset a division foe, then put all my eggs into one players basket.
More than the #1 pick, I am interested in hitting the # of losses that gets a clean house firing of GM, HC,and entire staff.
I'd say it this way, I will root for them to win because I can't help myself. If Eli throws a pick 6 in a big spot, I won't be cheering as the other guy runs up the field. What I'll likely do is just sit there and watch, dejectedly, and chalk it up to crappy season, with the only silver lining being that the losses should help the team in it's needed rebuild. As I've gotten older as a fan, I take things more in stride. I know this is a lost season so I won't go nuts as the losses pile up. I'll keep watching. I'll hope they play well, but I've accepted this is a 3-13 team right now.
I'll put it this way, back in 1988, when the Giants played the Niners, the Giants lost on a late bomb from Montana to Rice when Kenny Hill hit Mark Collins as he took a bad angle and Rice ran in for a game winning TD late. I was about 15 years old then and I remember being so pissed I just went outside and walked all around the neighborhood and didn't calm down for days. When the Giants just lost in Tampa, I knew what was going to happen, watched it happen. Muttered a curse and moved on. Some years aren't meant to be. I'll root for them to win, they just aren't good enough to do it, and I'm ok with that right now because I have my expectations set as a fan.
My fear in these situations is always that they'll win just enough to get the the 5th pick in a 4-man draft. And they always seem to do that.
And I rather have a top 3 pick at 1-15 than first overall at 0-16
The Giants can’t be 0-16
I am with this. I just cant possibly see us losing tobthe 49ers
And I rather have a top 3 pick at 1-15 than first overall at 0-16
The Giants can’t be 0-16
I am with this. I just cant possibly see us losing tobthe 49ers
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rooting for your team to lose is like hoping your wife has an affair so you will appreciate her more.
GREAT ANALOGY!!!!
Wrong. It's hoping your wife will cheat so you can get rid of the slut legally and draft your #1 side chick.
No, after re-thinking it, it's hoping your wife has an affair so she'll go on a diet.
Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
Some of you need a serious reality check or just a break from WATCHING football. Holy shit.
Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
Some of you need a serious reality check or just a break from WATCHING football. Holy shit.
You would be surprised...
Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
Some of you need a serious reality check or just a break from WATCHING football. Holy shit.
I’m not sure they care. I’ve followed this team since 1990. I’ve watched them pack it in, many-a-year. You can tell when a team has collectively given up on a season.
This team has. They will do little more than show up and mail it in. Frankly, it seems that’s what they have been doing since game 1 except for a few moments against the Eagles and Bucs.
As far as rooting for the Giants for the rest of the year? There’s literally nothing to root for. This team is a pathetic embarrassment and a stain on the fabric of the franchise. Put them right up there with the ‘95 squad. The woeful offense made the team nearly-unwatchable, but with the injuries and the infighting, we’ve entered legitimate paper-bag-wearing territory TWO WEEKS BEFORE HALLOWEEN!!!
At least if OBJ were healthy or Marshall were healthy, we’d have SOMETHING to watch on offense. At least if the dline or secondary had been holding up its end (and not being a weekly no-show and/or coming apart at the seams), there would be SOMETHING to watch on defense.
Instead, watching the Giants is like being strapped to a chair and having your teeth drilled without novocaine.
For those rooting for losses, in the expectation that it will lead to better drafts, think again. We’ve blown several round 1 picks already and history shows that picking earlier as a shittier team does not lead to great results. One example is the Browns. Consistently picking high and consistently missing.
Things won’t change until we purge the disease that is Reese, his scouting dept. and his draft strategy (prioritizing measurables over “football players”, this whole “team captain” BS, going cheap on LBs and absolutely whiffing on OL drafting).
In 2003, it took a colossal collapse to convince ownership to part ways with Fassell.
Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
Some of you need a serious reality check or just a break from WATCHING football. Holy shit.
B, what in the fuck are you talking about? Unless OP did not refer to "original post(er)" in this instance?
Yeah, I'm going to tank this season so they can draft my replacement!