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Anita Marks of ESPN was a guest on SC6 on Friday night to talk about just how dysfunctional things have become with the New York Giants within their locker room. Marks mentioned that she believes that the Giants will end up firing head coach Ben McAdoo and general manager Jerry Reese, due to the fact that McAdoo has lost the locker room and Reese has been a failure at retooling their roster. |
You’re a dumb piece of shit.
Bimbo?? How old are you?
The matter is the Defense. Is Spagnuolo losing them? That seems a more likely reality. If so, McAdoo should let him go at the bye and place an interim DC title on one of the DB coaches. Except Spagnuolo is in tight with Mara.
Well the headline does say she "believes", so of course it's her opinion. And what exactly is your inside info to speak as fact that her or Joe Schmo would be wrong?
What an ignorant comment. A woman says something you disagree with, so she's a "bimbo"? Go crawl back down the garbage hole you crawled out of you sexist piece of shit.
Dottino seems to be closest to the team these days, and he continues to maintain that it'll be how the team closes out the year, whether it seems like they've lost the locker room or whether they continue to play hard. Personally, I don't see how it hasn't been lost yet when each new day seems to bring a suspension for disciplinary reasons.
The matter is the Defense. Is Spagnuolo losing them? That seems a more likely reality. If so, McAdoo should let him go at the bye and place an interim DC title on one of the DB coaches. Except Spagnuolo is in tight with Mara.
Maybe he will survive, although I have my doubts, but I think Reese will get the blame and is history, two years late.
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She also supported the drafting of Ryan Nassib as the heir apparent to Eli. Nassib just got released from Jacksonville.
What an ignorant comment. A woman says something you disagree with, so she's a "bimbo"? Go crawl back down the garbage hole you crawled out of you sexist piece of shit.
No...google her and click on images.
THAT is why she is being called a Bimbo.
Just make sure if resse goes everyone does
calling it now, mara calls saban
But Anita Marks is awful. She's enthusiastic, but her lack of football knowledge is embarrassingly obvious. Her only job seems to be keeping Giants.com from being a total sausage fest. Giants gotta show diversity! Without her and Papa, it's all ex-players and pasty, white, Jersey mooks with clogged-sinus voices.
But Anita Marks is awful. She's enthusiastic, but her lack of football knowledge is embarrassingly obvious. Her only job seems to be keeping Giants.com from being a total sausage fest. Giants gotta show diversity! Without her and Papa, it's all ex-players and pasty, white, Jersey mooks with clogged-sinus voices.
She doesn't work for Giants.com anymore.
She's dirt cheap, so she's on ESPN (Tv/radio) now.
1) We know the Giants organization is not past leaking info on a player, to certain members of the media. So leaking info that serves their purpose is nothing new to them.
2) We also know that it's hard to get the people you want for GM/HC at the end of the season, either College or Pro. The problem they had last time with the McAdoo choice was how late they decided on TC...that left little time for the new coach to get his own staff, so he was stuck with the incumbents.
3) Anita's remarks could get the "Friends of an Agent" taking with "Friends of Mara/Tisch"...who then report back to the Agent/Giants owners. No trace of tampering here, it's almost impossible to prove.
Hey, they could use BBI for this, as well as Anita...have a user with a special login "speculate" on it, to start the discussion. Other agents see this board, they know that members of the Giants organization read it, or have people read it for them.
4) Let's say Cough/Cough<Saban>Cough/Cough is interested. Certainly, this was the case last year, if you believe certain leaks. Well, if there's an informal agreement, then the Giants are free to go ahead, make changes, and then conduct a "search" for both. Do the whole Rooney thing, etc...(they could satisfy that by interviewing Ross, for example), even though they've already made their choices.
5) The interested HC replacement would be able to weigh in on GM candidates he could work with, and possibly contact them on his own. Again, nothing that could be traced back so that there is no evidence of tampering.
6) After everyone agrees, the new GM is hired, then makes his "search", finally ending up with "his" selection at HC...who says how unexpected and honored he is.
Would the Giants do this? Who knows? Has this happened before with other teams?
I wouldn't be shocked...would you?
But Anita Marks is awful. She's enthusiastic, but her lack of football knowledge is embarrassingly obvious. Her only job seems to be keeping Giants.com from being a total sausage fest. Giants gotta show diversity! Without her and Papa, it's all ex-players and pasty, white, Jersey mooks with clogged-sinus voices.
Serby shows up on Bruce Beck's Sunday night NBC sports wrap up show once in awhile to talk football. He's just as unfunny live as he is to read. He reminds me of somebody's uncle who thinks he's hilarious that the rest of the family just quietly tolerates.
This.
Jerry weighs in again.
Good point. I think much of the problem today stems from ownership not knowing if Reese or TC was the problem many years ago. They gave them both the benefit of the doubt, not unreasonably because of the Super Bowls, and retooled the coordinators and personnel. McAdoo was a hedge that TC would need to be replaced and at minimal disruption to Eli. It looked like TC lost a few games with poor in game management, which was true, and that sealed his fate and elevated McAdoo. Meanwhile, Reese got a good defense together and hit on a few high draft picks. Unfortunately, Reese hasn’t ever been good with later round picks and that’s been a real liability to the Giants and McAdoo isn’t a good Xs and Os guy and doesn’t now seem to be a leader either. So, I don’t think the piecemeal changes were terrible or mysterious, but they didn’t work and your overall point that the Giants need to start over with a new GM is correct.
Cool. Let him fail there for the next 5-6 seasons in a row.
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This is just her guess.
This.
This +2.
Dottino seems to be closest to the team these days, and he continues to maintain that it'll be how the team closes out the year, whether it seems like they've lost the locker room or whether they continue to play hard. Personally, I don't see how it hasn't been lost yet when each new day seems to bring a suspension for disciplinary reasons.
Why? Because of 2007 and '08 drafts and OBJ, and he bought 3 parts of what was a good D last year? Or the Rooney rule?
11 years of drafting: 2 drafts and 1 player while leaving your LB position void and your best OL pick is a tie between Pugh and Beatty(ugh)?
On the AM thing, it's opinion, media fodder, and what Giants fan mostly want to hear because it is how we feel. She is entitled to her opinion; her credibility is about as good as most other talking heads, 'insiders' or not.
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which is good, because she's not plugged in at all.
Dottino seems to be closest to the team these days, and he continues to maintain that it'll be how the team closes out the year, whether it seems like they've lost the locker room or whether they continue to play hard. Personally, I don't see how it hasn't been lost yet when each new day seems to bring a suspension for disciplinary reasons.
jcn56, kind of surprised at your Dottino take; I take him for the consummate hack and company line man that he is. If that means he's the closest to the GO among the beat writers, I guess that might signify that the circling of the wagons has begun.
I don't think Dottino's said anything that would earn him the 'company line' moniker. People are upset because they want unrest within the FO, but they don't operate that way. When he tells you it's premature to make any decisions at this point, that's not him being some company tool, that's likely the most on-point assessment of the organization's position at this point in time.
I think there's a good chance we see the entire operation flushed down the toilet at the end of the season - but you're not going to see Mara or get reports that he's unhappy unless things go seriously south. That doesn't mean that he isn't, just that they'll play it close to the vest for as long as possible.
I wanted Reese gone a couple of years ago and now hopefully that will happen
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which is good, because she's not plugged in at all.
Dottino seems to be closest to the team these days, and he continues to maintain that it'll be how the team closes out the year, whether it seems like they've lost the locker room or whether they continue to play hard. Personally, I don't see how it hasn't been lost yet when each new day seems to bring a suspension for disciplinary reasons.
jcn56, kind of surprised at your Dottino take; I take him for the consummate hack and company line man that he is. If that means he's the closest to the GO among the beat writers, I guess that might signify that the circling of the wagons has begun.
I don't think Dottino's said anything that would earn him the 'company line' moniker. People are upset because they want unrest within the FO, but they don't operate that way. When he tells you it's premature to make any decisions at this point, that's not him being some company tool, that's likely the most on-point assessment of the organization's position at this point in time.
I think there's a good chance we see the entire operation flushed down the toilet at the end of the season - but you're not going to see Mara or get reports that he's unhappy unless things go seriously south. That doesn't mean that he isn't, just that they'll play it close to the vest for as long as possible.
Good. Let him take Ross and Chris Mara with him.
from what I have seen and heard from these owners I don't think they have the stones to do anything as drastic as firing Reese or Mac....
The two 64K questions are if Reese and MacAdoo go then who out there would be available and considered upgrades? Do they go outside the organization for a GM or do they get a Gettelman or someone else who has ties to the organization? I'd prefer to go outside of the organization as I think a new approach or "different set of eyes" looking at the issues will be more beneficial.
Opinions are like a part of our body... everybody has one.
She's a sports personality from Miami, has covered the Ravens and Giants, but in reality she's really more of a tv host and fantasy football pro. She's on ESPN radio a lot on the weekends, but she never comes across as having much knowledge of the game other than from the fantasy sports angle. She also mainly goes after the lowest-hanging fruit for topics, usually goading people into calling the radio show to get them to complain about Odell Beckham.
The two 64K questions are if Reese and MacAdoo go then who out there would be available and considered upgrades? Do they go outside the organization for a GM or do they get a Gettelman or someone else who has ties to the organization? I'd prefer to go outside of the organization as I think a new approach or "different set of eyes" looking at the issues will be more beneficial.
Very interesting questions should the Giants choose to move on from Reese, McAdoo (and probably Ross).
Traditionally the Giants tend to go for continuity and people they know. The Giants historically have tended to prefer retooling/reloading rather than a complete overhaul. In which case Gettlemen as GM, Spags as HC and Sullivan running the offence seems the most likely scenario. Considering the foundation we currently have with the team to build on that makes the most sense.
Then again maybe they choose to look a little wider.
There is only so much roster churn that is possible in one offseason, which would likely be a factor. If there was a decision to majorlyclean house, with a longer process of rebuilding the team, then who knows.