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October 14, 2017 The New York Knickerbockers announced today that the team has waived Trey Burke, Nigel Hayes and Xavier Rathan-Mayes.
and id expect all 3 to end up on the Gleague team. I believe this was always the plan with Burke, so him being "waived" is nothing to get worked up about.
This is it for now. They are at 15 with Noah being suspended. Once he comes back they will need to make an adjustment. Id assume Jack would go, but who knows, we could have 5 guys hurt by then.
I guess the Knicks were watching his feet during his low-post moves. I talked this summer to a friend who refs NCAA games . The big games. I told him you guys must get caught watching Hayes from the waist up when he has the ball in the post. I mean all Wisconsin players take 2 steps in their post moves but this kid is ridiculous . As Carnesecca would say : " you need a bicycle for that move. Start peddling kid." 2.5 man.
1. Saying a player with a 10 year career is "worthless". He's obviously not worthless. He's definitely worth more than Trey Burke's zero starts in two years and 5 points and 1.8 assists per game last year.
2. Legitimately asking why the Knicks are carrying veteran PGs while attempting to develop an 18 year old rookie.
1. Saying a player with a 10 year career is "worthless". He's obviously not worthless. He's definitely worth more than Trey Burke's zero starts in two years and 5 points and 1.8 assists per game last year.
2. Legitimately asking why the Knicks are carrying veteran PGs while attempting to develop an 18 year old rookie.
TTH. I meant worthless to the Knicks. Sessions is a nice player that would be a great asset to a playoff team. I understand they brought him in to mentor Frank but I'd rather have Trey Burke and see if either Frank or Trey can develop with KP. This team doesn't need both Sessions and Jack
Why doesn't it? Burke has had two full years as a starter to show he's got any value. He is what he is. Washington played Brandon Jennings over Burke last year.
And Frank hasn't been healthy since the draft. I would argue that yes they certainly do need players at that position, regardless of what the win expectation is, they have 82 games to play through and having one established player at PG, who is also old, isn't good enough when your rookie can't stay healthy even before the season has started.
Because the word TANK comes into play. Let the kids play and learn
Frank. Trey. Baker.
Why doesn't it? Burke has had two full years as a starter to show he's got any value. He is what he is. Washington played Brandon Jennings over Burke last year.
And Frank hasn't been healthy since the draft. I would argue that yes they certainly do need players at that position, regardless of what the win expectation is, they have 82 games to play through and having one established player at PG, who is also old, isn't good enough when your rookie can't stay healthy even before the season has started.
Because the word TANK comes into play. Let the kids play and learn
Frank. Trey. Baker.
Why doesn't it? Burke has had two full years as a starter to show he's got any value. He is what he is. Washington played Brandon Jennings over Burke last year.
And Frank hasn't been healthy since the draft. I would argue that yes they certainly do need players at that position, regardless of what the win expectation is, they have 82 games to play through and having one established player at PG, who is also old, isn't good enough when your rookie can't stay healthy even before the season has started.
The "kids" are going to learn regardless. They'll learn more from having veterans around who actually know how to play. Trey Burke is 24 years old with a lot of NBA time. He's not some diamond in the rough. He's a spare part who should probably be in the d-league.
not knocking Burke but Scott Brooks called Burke a 2 guard in a 1's body. He was being complimentary but basically called him a scorer so I'm sure that was part of the thought process.
All you hope/ worry about this year is that they are running a system that is player friendly to help the young guys develop and build confidence. They need to be able to play free, share the ball, and evolve. If they allow for that progress then he season will be a win and it will also be watchable
run a system that really makes sense for these particular pieces, to maximize that, as units, and makes sense, to try to win, in this current league in the NBA.
so the kids have something to hang their hats on and dig heels into.
Basically what you said, slightly different, as opposed to a more generic 'player friendly type of ball' that may not match knicks pieces.
I would not be so fast to trade lee or kanter as some of you guys.
like Lee will open the season as the starting 3 and Hornacek will make adjustments vs. bigger teams. Melo or PG13 should be able to do major damage vs. the undersized Lee if he's on either one of them.
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run a system that really makes sense for these particular pieces, to maximize that, as units, and makes sense, to try to win, in this current league in the NBA.
so the kids have something to hang their hats on and dig heels into.
Basically what you said, slightly different, as opposed to a more generic 'player friendly type of ball' that may not match knicks pieces.
I would not be so fast to trade lee or kanter as some of you guys.
the 2 guys i want traded are oquinn and thomas, i dotn want to see either getting minutes over mcdermott or willy...
i dont mind lee at all and i dont mind 1 of sessions or jack...
i actually would prefer jack because i want ntlikina and baker getting the minutes at point and i think he is more up to being a vet leader then sessions
real tough work comes after game 12 where you know Noah is going to play so where does Hornacek find Willy his minutes? Kanter and Willy can't be on the court at the same time and Kanter really can't play a ton of 4 in general.
Knicks video here- breakdown of KP at 4 vs 5, but more interestingly to me, all the defensive positions Frankie was in on. Really promising stuff here IMHO. Knicks film study - ( New Window )
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Frank Ntilikina (knee) participated in contact portions of practice today but is not participating in scrimmage. Everyone else practiced.
Someone mentioned last year that Porz has an upside as a pure shooter.
You might run him more or less as a shooting guard, that gives you tons of flexibility with the power forward and center players, including switching things around with all 3 players - mid play.
Possibly you could put on the court 5 that can all shoot, Nili is tall, you can put out 4 that can play near the basket for brief periods.
And- switch up the defensive side responsibilities, letting Porz be near the basket on D.
All that said, I don't know crap about basketball really, nor this roster and what I just suggested could suck badly on D.
But, ignore Porz' upside as a shooter and you may be missing some stuff here, both in the roster and in his potential.
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Someone mentioned last year that Porz has an upside as a pure shooter.
You might run him more or less as a shooting guard, that gives you tons of flexibility with the power forward and center players, including switching things around with all 3 players - mid play.
Possibly you could put on the court 5 that can all shoot, Nili is tall, you can put out 4 that can play near the basket for brief periods.
And- switch up the defensive side responsibilities, letting Porz be near the basket on D.
All that said, I don't know crap about basketball really, nor this roster and what I just suggested could suck badly on D.
But, ignore Porz' upside as a shooter and you may be missing some stuff here, both in the roster and in his potential.
Who is Nili? If you are talking about Frank, no, he can't play the 4 c'mon
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Jeff Hornacek has yet to decide on a starting lineup, he said. #knicks
it is simple jeff
sessions (until frank is ready)
thjr
mcdermott
kp
willy
He keeps talking about Lee at the 3 unless it's against a bigger 3 so I assume he's leaning that way, also hyped up Kanter with KP as a fit so I assume he starts. Really not going to be happy if Willy is the one losing minutes when Noah returns.
Frank Ntilikina is making progress, slowly but it seems steadily, in advance of Thursdays regular season opener against Carmelo Anthony and the Thunder.
The Knicks rookie point guard from France took part in his second straight practice on Monday, doing more than he did on Saturday, and the expectation is he will be available when the season begins.
If the plan goes well, I should play Thursday, the 6-foot-5 guard said.
Ntilikina, who missed the teams final four preseason games with a bruised right knee, did everything except participate in a scrimmage on Monday. That was part of the plan, he said, to build up endurance and strength in the knee prior to Thursday. He will likely back up veteran Ramon Sessions, but could see time on reigning MVP Russell Westbrook.
Westbrook is the MVP. Its going to be fun, the defensive-minded Ntilikina said. Every point guard in the league is very talented, and you have to be ready for every challenge. Defensively as offensively, I have to be ready to compete, and thats what I will do.
is unguardable. Frank's defensive upside looks to be very high but Westbrook can/will destroy him if they leave Frank on him. He's as close to unguardable as there is in this league and Frank (while long) is not overly quick.
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is unguardable. Frank's defensive upside looks to be very high but Westbrook can/will destroy him if they leave Frank on him. He's as close to unguardable as there is in this league and Frank (while long) is not overly quick.
Well they should let him play him at least a little. Westbrook destroys everyone. Why not?
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no they dont
You're a clueless fuck aren't ya
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This team has no fucking clue. Let's keep Sessions He is worthless
Canton. Where the fuck have you come from. Crawled out from underneath some rock
You're a clueless fuck aren't ya
BTW, learn how to use to reply feature correctly, and secondly, are your stiill going to stick with your shit ass comment above?
iSonyis have any clue why we have Sessions here? Honest question?
Kornet signed a 2 way in July They need 1 more
This is it for now. They are at 15 with Noah being suspended. Once he comes back they will need to make an adjustment. Id assume Jack would go, but who knows, we could have 5 guys hurt by then.
2. Legitimately asking why the Knicks are carrying veteran PGs while attempting to develop an 18 year old rookie.
2. Legitimately asking why the Knicks are carrying veteran PGs while attempting to develop an 18 year old rookie.
TTH. I meant worthless to the Knicks. Sessions is a nice player that would be a great asset to a playoff team. I understand they brought him in to mentor Frank but I'd rather have Trey Burke and see if either Frank or Trey can develop with KP. This team doesn't need both Sessions and Jack
Why doesn't it? Burke has had two full years as a starter to show he's got any value. He is what he is. Washington played Brandon Jennings over Burke last year.
And Frank hasn't been healthy since the draft. I would argue that yes they certainly do need players at that position, regardless of what the win expectation is, they have 82 games to play through and having one established player at PG, who is also old, isn't good enough when your rookie can't stay healthy even before the season has started.
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This team doesn't need both Sessions and Jack
Because the word TANK comes into play. Let the kids play and learn
Frank. Trey. Baker.
Why doesn't it? Burke has had two full years as a starter to show he's got any value. He is what he is. Washington played Brandon Jennings over Burke last year.
And Frank hasn't been healthy since the draft. I would argue that yes they certainly do need players at that position, regardless of what the win expectation is, they have 82 games to play through and having one established player at PG, who is also old, isn't good enough when your rookie can't stay healthy even before the season has started.
So sorry to ruin your day Enzo
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This team doesn't need both Sessions and Jack
Because the word TANK comes into play. Let the kids play and learn
Frank. Trey. Baker.
Why doesn't it? Burke has had two full years as a starter to show he's got any value. He is what he is. Washington played Brandon Jennings over Burke last year.
And Frank hasn't been healthy since the draft. I would argue that yes they certainly do need players at that position, regardless of what the win expectation is, they have 82 games to play through and having one established player at PG, who is also old, isn't good enough when your rookie can't stay healthy even before the season has started.
The "kids" are going to learn regardless. They'll learn more from having veterans around who actually know how to play. Trey Burke is 24 years old with a lot of NBA time. He's not some diamond in the rough. He's a spare part who should probably be in the d-league.
so the kids have something to hang their hats on and dig heels into.
Basically what you said, slightly different, as opposed to a more generic 'player friendly type of ball' that may not match knicks pieces.
I would not be so fast to trade lee or kanter as some of you guys.
so the kids have something to hang their hats on and dig heels into.
Basically what you said, slightly different, as opposed to a more generic 'player friendly type of ball' that may not match knicks pieces.
I would not be so fast to trade lee or kanter as some of you guys.
the 2 guys i want traded are oquinn and thomas, i dotn want to see either getting minutes over mcdermott or willy...
i dont mind lee at all and i dont mind 1 of sessions or jack...
i actually would prefer jack because i want ntlikina and baker getting the minutes at point and i think he is more up to being a vet leader then sessions
Knicks film study - ( New Window )
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Sources: Memphis waiving guard Wade Baldwin, the 17th overall pick in 2016 NBA Draft.
Someone mentioned last year that Porz has an upside as a pure shooter.
You might run him more or less as a shooting guard, that gives you tons of flexibility with the power forward and center players, including switching things around with all 3 players - mid play.
Possibly you could put on the court 5 that can all shoot, Nili is tall, you can put out 4 that can play near the basket for brief periods.
And- switch up the defensive side responsibilities, letting Porz be near the basket on D.
All that said, I don't know crap about basketball really, nor this roster and what I just suggested could suck badly on D.
But, ignore Porz' upside as a shooter and you may be missing some stuff here, both in the roster and in his potential.
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Jeff Hornacek has yet to decide on a starting lineup, he said. #knicks
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Someone mentioned last year that Porz has an upside as a pure shooter.
You might run him more or less as a shooting guard, that gives you tons of flexibility with the power forward and center players, including switching things around with all 3 players - mid play.
Possibly you could put on the court 5 that can all shoot, Nili is tall, you can put out 4 that can play near the basket for brief periods.
And- switch up the defensive side responsibilities, letting Porz be near the basket on D.
All that said, I don't know crap about basketball really, nor this roster and what I just suggested could suck badly on D.
But, ignore Porz' upside as a shooter and you may be missing some stuff here, both in the roster and in his potential.
Who is Nili? If you are talking about Frank, no, he can't play the 4 c'mon
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Jeff Hornacek has yet to decide on a starting lineup, he said. #knicks
it is simple jeff
sessions (until frank is ready)
thjr
mcdermott
kp
willy
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Jeff Hornacek has yet to decide on a starting lineup, he said. #knicks
it is simple jeff
sessions (until frank is ready)
thjr
mcdermott
kp
willy
He keeps talking about Lee at the 3 unless it's against a bigger 3 so I assume he's leaning that way, also hyped up Kanter with KP as a fit so I assume he starts. Really not going to be happy if Willy is the one losing minutes when Noah returns.
The Knicks rookie point guard from France took part in his second straight practice on Monday, doing more than he did on Saturday, and the expectation is he will be available when the season begins.
If the plan goes well, I should play Thursday, the 6-foot-5 guard said.
Ntilikina, who missed the teams final four preseason games with a bruised right knee, did everything except participate in a scrimmage on Monday. That was part of the plan, he said, to build up endurance and strength in the knee prior to Thursday. He will likely back up veteran Ramon Sessions, but could see time on reigning MVP Russell Westbrook.
Westbrook is the MVP. Its going to be fun, the defensive-minded Ntilikina said. Every point guard in the league is very talented, and you have to be ready for every challenge. Defensively as offensively, I have to be ready to compete, and thats what I will do.
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Well they should let him play him at least a little. Westbrook destroys everyone. Why not?
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He was often discussed as one of the "assets" the Clippers had to give us for Melo. Stone, Austin Rivers and a sign and traded Redick weeeeeeeeee lol