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Eli Apple non-start last week was for disciplinary reasons

Diver_Down : 10/14/2017 10:29 am
as reported by Garafolo on the weekend edition of GMFB. There was speculation that it was related to his shortcomings in performance this year. But Garafolo clarified that Eli had made comments to Frank Mara who was on the sidelines the week prior. In addition, Apple had spoke back to the coaches in practice during the week. The combination of the two instances led to his non-start/benching.

If this has been reported/discussed, I'll delete. I searched and didn't find anything mentioning the talk-back of Apple.
Great, shitty player with a shitty attitude  
jcn56 : 10/14/2017 10:32 am : link
Wait for his mom to come running to his defense on Twitter.
I would have benched him for...  
M.S. : 10/14/2017 10:32 am : link

..."shortcomings."

A year and a half into this high draft pick's pro career and he's still doing the same old shit from his Ohio State days.

Just a perfect fit for this franchise.
What a  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/14/2017 10:33 am : link
joke.
The Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.  
robbieballs2003 : 10/14/2017 10:34 am : link
Thank you. I'll be here all week.
Unfortunately  
Canton : 10/14/2017 10:35 am : link
Just one, of a myriad of reasons, that Reese must go.
Many of us would have sat him  
Diver_Down : 10/14/2017 10:38 am : link
due to his performance. If only to serve as a wake-up call to get his game straightened out. And I believe that was the prevailing suspicion behind the non-start. But when Garafolo mentioned it this morning, it was the first that I heard of it. Talking back to a coach during practice is one thing, but to publicly make comments to a Mara is just plain stupid.

We all have worked at companies where a family member was employed. But I would think we are all smart enough not to berate a member of the family that owns the company.
More evidence of the dissention in the locker room with Mac  
PatersonPlank : 10/14/2017 11:00 am : link
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Remember what this kid's mom is like  
Sy'56 : 10/14/2017 11:02 am : link
And after seeing how he carries himself during training camp, laughing on the sideline as the team was about to fall to 0-5...

Lets add CB to the list of serious team needs for 2018.
I guess on the positive side, if Mara wasn't aware of the locker room  
PatersonPlank : 10/14/2017 11:09 am : link
dysfunction before then, he sure is aware now after talking to Apple.
As much as Annie Apple put herself in the spotlight, there are plenty  
Devon : 10/14/2017 11:25 am : link
of athletes that have overbearing/smothering parents that aren't basically brats like this.

Eli is responsible for his own shit at this point and Reese is responsible for taking him.
Burning a top 10 pick sets you back..  
Sean : 10/14/2017 11:35 am : link
at least Flowers is showing some positive signs.
They don’t respect this coaching staff  
Rflairr : 10/14/2017 11:39 am : link
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The draft pick  
Mendenhall : 10/14/2017 12:03 pm : link
that will sink Reese. A total bust.
RE: The draft pick  
sundayatone : 10/14/2017 12:10 pm : link
In comment 13648033 Mendenhall said:
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that will sink Reese. A total bust.


he has survived marvin austin, brandon mosley, damontre moore, jayron hosley and double o,hope you are right.


The  
Steve in Greenwich : 10/14/2017 12:20 pm : link
Original post misrepresented what Garafolo said in regards to the Frank Mara portion. He said that it is unclear whether or not Apple got in a verbal spat with Frank Mara on the sidelines during the game or whether it was someone near Mara / another member of the organization. Just clarifying.
More reason why Reese needs to be shit canned ASAP  
BlueHurricane : 10/14/2017 12:21 pm : link
I do not want him or his staff anywhere near this coming years FA's or draft board.

Blow the whole damn thing up and start over ASAP.
On the other hand...  
trueblueinpw : 10/14/2017 12:23 pm : link
No one likes a rotten apple. Insubordination is almost always unacceptable. But, let’s also remember that this defense is terrible and not just because of Eli Apple. And remember that Spags had a lot of problems with this sort of thing as HC is StL - poor results and locker room trouble. It doesn’t seem like Apple is the only person on the defense with problems with the coaching. Also, Apple isn’t a top ten pick, as far as I can see, but he’s got a first round talent. I want to know why the coaches haven’t been able to make him better and help him to overcome his problems with technique. Kind of like Flowers, the tools seem to be there.
Now we know why defense is unhappy  
chuckydee9 : 10/14/2017 1:24 pm : link
Apple gets benched for disciplinary reasons but then replaces an effective corner because Jerry drafted him in the first round. Why do we not play DRC who is a legit top 10 outside/inside/all over the field cornerback with one that repeatedly gets beat.. obviously DRC is pissed off..
Who the fuck is Frank Mara and why is he on the sideline?  
SHO'NUFF : 10/14/2017 1:30 pm : link
Remember, the funny gene is in Apple's family.
RE: They don’t respect this coaching staff  
JCin332 : 10/14/2017 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13648017 Rflairr said:
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Apple is a turd and it has nothing to do with the coaching staff..

Sy'56 has written he had a shit attitude all training camp...
RE: Now we know why defense is unhappy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/14/2017 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13648073 chuckydee9 said:
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Apple gets benched for disciplinary reasons but then replaces an effective corner because Jerry drafted him in the first round. Why do we not play DRC who is a legit top 10 outside/inside/all over the field cornerback with one that repeatedly gets beat.. obviously DRC is pissed off..


They are both on the field most of the game. That isn't it.
RE: Who the fuck is Frank Mara and why is he on the sideline?  
mdc1 : 10/14/2017 2:37 pm : link
In comment 13648078 SHO'NUFF said:
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Remember, the funny gene is in Apple's family.


is this in relation to the Falcons question to him in during the draft?
You mean,  
Doomster : 10/14/2017 3:05 pm : link
Burning a top 10 pick sets you back..
Sean : 11:35 am : link : reply
at least Flowers is showing some positive signs.

he sucked less?
...  
christian : 10/14/2017 3:25 pm : link
Two possibilities: 1) this staff is letting things get out of control 2) this staff is willing to let things play out in the press.

I'm more concerned with the latter.
What is it about  
uconngiant : 10/14/2017 4:01 pm : link
OSU players. It seems they come into the Pro's with attitudes and issues. Not good
Whatever the defensive players think of McAdoo,  
81_Great_Dane : 10/14/2017 4:30 pm : link
they should be rallying behind Spags. I've worked in places where the top management wasn't well respected but the secondary people were, so people just sort of put their heads down and focused on the success of their own unit.
RE: Remember what this kid's mom is like  
trueblueinpw : 10/14/2017 5:20 pm : link
In comment 13647991 Sy'56 said:
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And after seeing how he carries himself during training camp, laughing on the sideline as the team was about to fall to 0-5...

Lets add CB to the list of serious team needs for 2018.


Would’ve guessed you’d have enough tact to leave the guy's mom out of the thread.
Not only are they top 10 picks  
Bluesbreaker : 10/14/2017 5:33 pm : link
But its a myriad of failed picks in the trenches when they
score half decent player like DT they let him walk and burn burn a pick for the same player . Watching two teams jump in front of us Conklin was the guy we needed , I liked Hargreaves game much better he is a much more sound player .
From 2009-2014 In six seasons we have 1 Player thats currently on the O-line not even one backup has been drafted
or developed .
I don't want Reese and company anywhere near this team next year . I expect the team to come out and give it there all
but it won't take much to make them just say screw it either . I just don't see this team bouncing back and winning much more that 3-4 games .
If true  
RetroJint : 10/14/2017 9:24 pm : link
Spagnuolo lied in his Thurs presser. He said they (he) made a decision to give Cockrell some playing time.
Hopefully he fell outta the plane today  
B in ALB : 10/14/2017 9:26 pm : link
On the way to Denver. Laugh about that, Apple.
For Sy  
RetroJint : 10/14/2017 9:27 pm : link
Take it easy on Eli will you? Shall we revisit your expert commentary on Treadwell vs Will Fuller and "little receivers?" You know 5-42 Treadwell following 1-9 Treadwell ?
Another shitty pick from the GM.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/14/2017 9:39 pm : link
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RE: Another shitty pick from the GM.  
WillVAB : 10/14/2017 10:16 pm : link
In comment 13648661 Dave in Hoboken said:
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At the time it made no sense. Just paid for the top CB on the market and DRC was coming off a good year. So instead of addressing OL, LB, trade down etc let's just stand pat and take a CB?

It's like Reese is a robot who only targets DE, CB, and WR in the first round.

This is exhibit A that the BPA crowd should shove up their ass.
RE: As much as Annie Apple put herself in the spotlight, there are plenty  
SirLoinOfBeef : 10/14/2017 11:37 pm : link
In comment 13648002 Devon said:
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of athletes that have overbearing/smothering parents that aren't basically brats like this.

Eli is responsible for his own shit at this point and Reese is responsible for taking him.


Are you really going to compare Annie Apple to The Manning Family? The Manning's are NFL elite. Eli Apple won't make it past is rookie contract.
...  
yankees78 : 10/14/2017 11:49 pm : link
lol
http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=535002&show_all=1 - ( New Window )
RE: RE: As much as Annie Apple put herself in the spotlight, there are plenty  
Devon : 10/15/2017 12:00 am : link
In comment 13648704 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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In comment 13648002 Devon said:


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of athletes that have overbearing/smothering parents that aren't basically brats like this.

Eli is responsible for his own shit at this point and Reese is responsible for taking him.



Are you really going to compare Annie Apple to The Manning Family? The Manning's are NFL elite. Eli Apple won't make it past is rookie contract.


Eli = Apple, not Manning.

As much as Archie is a POS, his goals have obviously always been much different than Annie Apple's, as is how he groomed his sons.
RE: RE: Who the fuck is Frank Mara and why is he on the sideline?  
SHO'NUFF : 10/15/2017 2:40 am : link
In comment 13648116 mdc1 said:
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In comment 13648078 SHO'NUFF said:


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Remember, the funny gene is in Apple's family.



is this in relation to the Falcons question to him in during the draft?


No, his uncle is comedian Michael Blackson...and his mom is witty, as well.
RE: ...  
Diver_Down : 10/15/2017 6:07 am : link
In comment 13648707 yankees78 said:
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lol http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=535002&show_all=1 - ( New Window )


Thank you, yankees78 for providing that comic relief this morning. Cute to see the few who practically trip over themselves to defend Reese and justify the pick, but overall a whole lot of WTF?
Now it's his Mom's fault?  
bc4life : 10/15/2017 8:40 am : link
This 0-5 start is making some of you lose your minds. Hopefully, they win some games before one of you lunatics shoots his dog.
So the young man  
Emil : 10/15/2017 11:24 am : link
Who laughs consistently on the sideline during games, reportedly is not serious in practice, has played terribly to start the season, and now had to be disciplined, has the audacity to say there are issues with the culture of the team?

One issue appears to be Eli Apple.
RE: RE: Another shitty pick from the GM.  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/15/2017 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13648671 WillVAB said:
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In comment 13648661 Dave in Hoboken said:


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At the time it made no sense. Just paid for the top CB on the market and DRC was coming off a good year. So instead of addressing OL, LB, trade down etc let's just stand pat and take a CB?

It's like Reese is a robot who only targets DE, CB, and WR in the first round.

This is exhibit A that the BPA crowd should shove up their ass.


That's exactly what he does. He was forced to take Flowers IMO by upper management. He loved Beatty. He let both Hankins and Joseph go. Along w missing on Austin and Bromley. Funny he misses on Flowers and Richberg declines and he's more than willing to not add players on he OL.

And still plenty of people here who are in denial about him. His FA splurge last year was a band aid. Now that it's fallen off his misses and bad decisions are amplified again
Archie Manning is a POS?  
arniefez : 10/15/2017 3:57 pm : link
Based on what exactly? The world has become a very strange place
The alleged "Frank Mara" incident was not "the week prior";  
shyster : 10/15/2017 5:33 pm : link
it happened well into the Chargers game itself, so it had nothing to do with Apple's not starting.

The Garafolo quote:

"Also in the game, after Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie left the field and went back to the locker room, [Apple] came off the field, someone near Frank Mara, who is John's brother, said something he didn't like," Garafolo explained. "He yelled back in that person's direction -- there was some confusion whether he was yelling back at Frank Mara, who is the Giants VP of Community Relations."


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