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MaineMike : 10/15/2017 5:59 pm
I have been a high school official 22 years, 17 as a white hat.... Last Friday night I had one bad experience... 48 - 6 losing team with ball, 1:30 left in game (running clock due to 35 point deficit) On a 25 year pass play my back judge throws a brutal "Blindside block" penalty. Kid is down, helped to sideline, head not clear... The coach is screaming at my backjudge, "You can't call that!!" I go over to defuse the situation. He then jumps on me, "its 48-6, you can't call that!" You wonder why almost 30,000 less kids are playing high school this year..... Just venting here....
As a long time player, coach and parent...  
EricJ : 10/15/2017 6:29 pm : link
in various sports, I can tell you that parents and youth sport coaches can really suck. They will often ruin it for the kids.
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I am Ninja : 10/15/2017 7:03 pm : link
I love football like we all do. I played and have really fond memories of it, right up there with baseball, and I dont really have any desire to push my kids into it. I wont forbid it, but when you look at in totality it thru an adults eyes youre kinda like ehh, its all pretty fucked up.
We had an opposing head coach  
B in ALB : 10/15/2017 7:14 pm : link
shove one our players Friday night after being tackled out of bounds on their sideline. Then later in the game he walked out to the middle of the field to scream at our head coach after one of their guys committed a PF. He tried to apologize after the game but we weren't having any of that bullshit. Fucking disgraceful.
There are a few issues I have with this.  
Matt M. : 10/15/2017 7:21 pm : link
First, the coach should not touch you under any circumstances. He should be ejected and suspended. Second, I don't like coaches who think the score and time left should dictate penalties. A penalty is a penalty is a penalty. Third, this is especially true of a brutal hit of the dirty nature like this.

Semi-related to my second point, I hate when you hear the complaint like, "You can't call that in the 4th quarter" or "You can't call that in a tie game" or that officials shouldn't decide the game. Well, not calling something also determines the outcome. And to me, a penalty, foul, etc. should be called the same from the 1st quarter to the 4th qaurter, regardless of score, down, or distance. Period.
I don't think the refs  
B in ALB : 10/15/2017 7:23 pm : link
saw him shove our guy. But it's clear as day on the video. Whether or not we choose to do something about it is another matter. He has a history of being very volatile. And this is a Catholic school to boot that preaches fair play, honesty and values. Whatever.
Matt  
steve in ky : 10/15/2017 7:25 pm : link
I could be wrong but I didn't read that as he literally and physically jumped on him but instead verbally did.
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Matt M. : 10/15/2017 7:40 pm : link
In comment 13649428 steve in ky said:
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I could be wrong but I didn't read that as he literally and physically jumped on him but instead verbally did.
In re-reading it, you are probably right.
RE: I don't think the refs  
Matt M. : 10/15/2017 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13649421 B in ALB said:
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saw him shove our guy. But it's clear as day on the video. Whether or not we choose to do something about it is another matter. He has a history of being very volatile. And this is a Catholic school to boot that preaches fair play, honesty and values. Whatever.
Your school should really send the video to the league. That sounds like something that should be addressed, especially if he has a history.
My daughter played in a lax..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/15/2017 7:44 pm : link
tourney this weekend. They have two seniors on the team and the majority of the players are 9th and 10th graders with five 8th graders playing. They went 3-1 and played in the championship game against a full varsity team that won the NC state title last year.

They were losing 18-2 with about 3 minutes left and after a call, the opposing coach rushes onto the field and screams in the refs face. Winning by 16 in a Fall tourney!
RE: My daughter played in a lax..  
steve in ky : 10/15/2017 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13649461 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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tourney this weekend. They have two seniors on the team and the majority of the players are 9th and 10th graders with five 8th graders playing. They went 3-1 and played in the championship game against a full varsity team that won the NC state title last year.

They were losing 18-2 with about 3 minutes left and after a call, the opposing coach rushes onto the field and screams in the refs face. Winning by 16 in a Fall tourney!


Some people just get lost in their douchiness
RE: RE: My daughter played in a lax..  
section125 : 10/15/2017 8:18 pm : link
In comment 13649473 steve in ky said:
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In comment 13649461 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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tourney this weekend. They have two seniors on the team and the majority of the players are 9th and 10th graders with five 8th graders playing. They went 3-1 and played in the championship game against a full varsity team that won the NC state title last year.

They were losing 18-2 with about 3 minutes left and after a call, the opposing coach rushes onto the field and screams in the refs face. Winning by 16 in a Fall tourney!



Some people just get lost in their douchiness


Parents suck. My daughter is coaching HS softball and she's had to tell off parents twice her age to stop yelling at players on their own team - parents who coached her in travel ball, no less.
Situations like the one described in the OP  
dpinzow : 10/15/2017 10:07 pm : link
should be enforced more stringently, not less. Those kinds of hits in blowouts often lead to ugly stuff
So the OP (original poster) and his officiating crew  
dpinzow : 10/15/2017 10:08 pm : link
were exactly right to enforce the game the way they did
RE: As a long time player, coach and parent...  
Jay in Toronto : 10/15/2017 10:29 pm : link
In comment 13649359 EricJ said:
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in various sports, I can tell you that parents and youth sport coaches can really suck. They will often ruin it for the kids.


+1 I was a youth hockey and soccer ref and stopped the former - parents were out for blood.
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Knineteen : 10/15/2017 10:47 pm : link
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You wonder why almost 30,000 less kids are playing high school this year.....

Yeah, probably more so because of the "head not clear" comment. Youth football participation rates are down because of the threat of injury; particularly the unknown causes of CTE.
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