I'm just not sure if it's more of a congratulatory 'What the fuck!', or an angry 'What the fuck?'.
Not sure if I'm encouraged that the team isn't one large sack of shit, or discouraged at the fact that they could piss away the season before coming up with a game like this.
I wish we could explain why the defense picked this game to show up.
They got up 10-0 and the D played lights out. UP 17-3 and then 20-3, what would you have them do? Should they throw downfield to a bunch of guys who weren't on the roster last week to pile on points? When you are up by 2 TDs or more in the second half and your D is playing great, and the opposing O keeps shooting itself in the foot and your running game finally showed up, you do exactly what they did. You run the ball and play D until the game dictates otherwise.
1-15 or 0-16! Clean house! This team is embarrassing.
Oops, must have used my pre-prepared "we lost" response.
Good thing I didn't use my pre-prepared "Eli died tonight" response.
I... umm... didn't have a pre-prepared "Giants win" response. Although there was a dominant defense tonight. Just not the one we thought. There was a 100-yard rusher. Just not the none we thought.
RE: RE: According to Pat Leonard from the NY Daily News,
Pat Leonard is a shit-stirrer. Do you know how much shit gets talked in college, no less the pros? Aqib Talib ripped Crabtree's chain off in a game, ask Broncos fans if they care.
They protected Eli, and opened holes for the running game, against the top defense in the NFL, at their house.
Leave the OL alone, with the possible exception of Richburg back in. Pugh and Flowers (who is much improved) at the tackles, and those two mountains at guard.
RE: I don't get how some are disappointed in the Offense.
They got up 10-0 and the D played lights out. UP 17-3 and then 20-3, what would you have them do? Should they throw downfield to a bunch of guys who weren't on the roster last week to pile on points? When you are up by 2 TDs or more in the second half and your D is playing great, and the opposing O keeps shooting itself in the foot and your running game finally showed up, you do exactly what they did. You run the ball and play D until the game dictates otherwise.
It's just a correction to some people claiming that changing playcalling is the reason for anything.
RE: According to Pat Leonard from the NY Daily News,
Why would anyone care what happens after the game? They just kicked Denver's ass in Denver. You think Apple is the only player that jawbones after a game. How about enjoying the fact Apple played like a 1st rounder tonight.
I'm just not sure if it's more of a congratulatory 'What the fuck!', or an angry 'What the fuck?'.
Not sure if I'm encouraged that the team isn't one large sack of shit, or discouraged at the fact that they could piss away the season before coming up with a game like this.
For me, it's both. I'm thrilled with the outcome, but also how they got it. But, I'm pissed that it took McAdoo this long to relinquish playcalling. All last year and this year, I have been calling for it. To be honest, I was not ever sure I even felt confident about Sullivan. But, I was sure McAdoo shouldn't be calling plays as HC. I'm also pissed it took this long to play an OL like this.
The D is more confusing. They have the same DC and some key players out. This D shows up the 3 weeks prior and they are at least 3-3.
sadly, reality says it's too little, too late, but still nice to get a win. I said during the game thread. This was a confluence of the fact that Sullivan called a game that the Broncos didn't prepare for. He pounded them on the ground, didn't over extend what his team could do, and lo and behold, they wore the Broncos down when Darkwa finally popped the big runs to put it away.
But also, let's not lose sight of the fact that the Broncos threw up an absolute zero tonight. They were flat as a pancake, they looked like a team that expected to walk out there and have the Giants roll over and they got their asses kicked as a result. No one would have thought the Giants first blowout in years would be in Denver after starting 0-5. That was probably the worst game Denver has played, at home, in many years.
Still, it's nice to actually win again. Let's see what they can do against Seattle.
This one was a big surprise for me, and I really hope they do well against Seattle next week. I'm so glad that game was flexed.
I hope Met Life is filled with loud fans supporting this team, because I think the Seahawks can be beaten!
GO BIG BLUE!!
RE: RE: I don't get how some are disappointed in the Offense.
They got up 10-0 and the D played lights out. UP 17-3 and then 20-3, what would you have them do? Should they throw downfield to a bunch of guys who weren't on the roster last week to pile on points? When you are up by 2 TDs or more in the second half and your D is playing great, and the opposing O keeps shooting itself in the foot and your running game finally showed up, you do exactly what they did. You run the ball and play D until the game dictates otherwise.
It's just a correction to some people claiming that changing playcalling is the reason for anything.
How is it not? They finally put in an OL more suited to run the ball, which I'm assuming Sullivan had something to do with. Then they commit to the run and it worked. And, they finally featured the star TE that they drafted to do just what he did tonight. Yes, I think Sullivan had something to do with all of that.
sadly, reality says it's too little, too late, but still nice to get a win. I said during the game thread. This was a confluence of the fact that Sullivan called a game that the Broncos didn't prepare for. He pounded them on the ground, didn't over extend what his team could do, and lo and behold, they wore the Broncos down when Darkwa finally popped the big runs to put it away.
But also, let's not lose sight of the fact that the Broncos threw up an absolute zero tonight. They were flat as a pancake, they looked like a team that expected to walk out there and have the Giants roll over and they got their asses kicked as a result. No one would have thought the Giants first blowout in years would be in Denver after starting 0-5. That was probably the worst game Denver has played, at home, in many years.
Still, it's nice to actually win again. Let's see what they can do against Seattle.
Most likely and realistically, it's too late. But, first you need to just get that first win. Then, you need to come back and just get the second win. IF that happens next week, then...who knows? I'm not saying I expect a miracle. But, after getting the first one, I can at least dream of the miracle.
I agree completely.He didn't cheap shot anyone. He's a young guy who finally played well. I can live with his antics if he can keep it going. Guys just enjoy this unexpected victory.
But speaking of questionable, what was the point of kicking the field goal. Seemed kind of shitty.
Clock management - take a knee, practically no time elapses. Run or pass the ball, risk a turnover. Kick the FG - extra points to ensure victory as well as a kickoff afterwards to run some more time off the clock.
Was if Denver scored a quick fluke TD a field goal could have tied it. They were in Mile high and very long kicks are possible. The FG forced them to go for 2 TDs
credit MacAdoo for getting this team to play and win tonight against all odds, loses any credibility going forward when discussing the coach.
You what to blame him for all the poor football this season, you've got to credit him tonight.
He showed a lot tonight.
Fortunately the players on the team aren t as easy to give up as fans are.
I'm happy the Giants won, but what we saw was McAdoo either finally relent on being too friggin stubborn as a head coach to delegate the play calling duties, or he was forced to. Either way, it worked out for the Giants because they won. It also helped Denver played like shit and the Giants defense stepped up.
Bottom line, McAdoo was making the same mistake Ray Handley made 25+ years ago when he refused to give up his offensive coordinator job and tried to do both and subsequently couldn't manage the whole roster and lost the team. Handley finally gave it up in his 2nd year, by letting Jim Fassel take over, but the horse had left the barn. It remains to be seen if McAdoo will suffer the same fate, but for this one night, it finally came together for a win. Like I said, let's see what happens at home vs. Seattle and was this just a flash in the pan.
They got up 10-0 and the D played lights out. UP 17-3 and then 20-3, what would you have them do? Should they throw downfield to a bunch of guys who weren't on the roster last week to pile on points? When you are up by 2 TDs or more in the second half and your D is playing great, and the opposing O keeps shooting itself in the foot and your running game finally showed up, you do exactly what they did. You run the ball and play D until the game dictates otherwise.
It's just a correction to some people claiming that changing playcalling is the reason for anything.
How is it not? They finally put in an OL more suited to run the ball, which I'm assuming Sullivan had something to do with. Then they commit to the run and it worked. And, they finally featured the star TE that they drafted to do just what he did tonight. Yes, I think Sullivan had something to do with all of that.
Engram had 5 catches.
Flukerhas been playing for a couple of weeks now. Pugh finished the game at RT last week when Hart got hurt. And he played RT when Hart was hurt the weeks before, IIRC
Darkwa and Gallman had 30 carries tonight.
Darkwa, Gallman, and Vereen had 24 carries last week.
Gallman, Vereen, & Perkins had 25 carries the week before that.
They didn't just commit to running the ball tonight.
The biggest difference is actually the defense playing better.
for getting ahead of ourselves. I'd want to see if it was really the Giants stepping up and not the Broncos figuring they could sleepwalk through this one.
credit MacAdoo for getting this team to play and win tonight against all odds, loses any credibility going forward when discussing the coach.
You what to blame him for all the poor football this season, you've got to credit him tonight.
He showed a lot tonight.
Fortunately the players on the team aren t as easy to give up as fans are.
I'm happy the Giants won, but what we saw was McAdoo either finally relent on being too friggin stubborn as a head coach to delegate the play calling duties, or he was forced to. Either way, it worked out for the Giants because they won. It also helped Denver played like shit and the Giants defense stepped up.
Bottom line, McAdoo was making the same mistake Ray Handley made 25+ years ago when he refused to give up his offensive coordinator job and tried to do both and subsequently couldn't manage the whole roster and lost the team. Handley finally gave it up in his 2nd year, by letting Jim Fassel take over, but the horse had left the barn. It remains to be seen if McAdoo will suffer the same fate, but for this one night, it finally came together for a win. Like I said, let's see what happens at home vs. Seattle and was this just a flash in the pan.
You gotta be fair Matt. You said all week this game would be a blood bath. And saying Denver is flat is BS, while it may be true, it doesn't make the victory less impressive.
Fluker has been playing for a couple of weeks now. Pugh finished the game at RT last week when Hart got hurt. And he played RT when Hart was hurt the weeks before, IIRC
Darkwa and Gallman had 30 carries tonight.
Darkwa, Gallman, and Vereen had 24 carries last week.
Gallman, Vereen, & Perkins had 25 carries the week before that.
They didn't just commit to running the ball tonight.
The biggest difference is actually the defense playing better.
The running game was working last week when Hart was in the game. In fact, the right side was blocking better for runs than the left side last week. I think Fluker may well be making a difference.
Wow. Ben just can't give Eli a compliment. Would it hurt to say that he played a good game?
With only 19 attempts for 128 yards, all he had to do was steer the bus, if we're being honest.
You're right. It's soooo easy, any QB could have done it.
My point was, after Ben was a bit of a jerk throwing Eli under the bus for a few weeks, he should have been looking for an opportunity to pump up his QB, not knock him down again.
for getting ahead of ourselves. I'd want to see if it was really the Giants stepping up and not the Broncos figuring they could sleepwalk through this one.
ME too. But, it's still a win. That's one. Now, let's see if they can go out and put up a similar result next week.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I don't get how some are disappointed in the Offense.
Fluker has been playing for a couple of weeks now. Pugh finished the game at RT last week when Hart got hurt. And he played RT when Hart was hurt the weeks before, IIRC
Darkwa and Gallman had 30 carries tonight.
Darkwa, Gallman, and Vereen had 24 carries last week.
Gallman, Vereen, & Perkins had 25 carries the week before that.
They didn't just commit to running the ball tonight.
The biggest difference is actually the defense playing better.
The running game was working last week when Hart was in the game. In fact, the right side was blocking better for runs than the left side last week. I think Fluker may well be making a difference.
Fluker's a snow plow as a run blocker, so it's not a surprise, but if he's going to play, you have to call a run-heavy offense because he'll get exposed on as many passes as McAdoo seemed to want to throw.
At least now they seem to be playing to presumed strengths, but I don't think they're good enough to run even when the other team knows it's coming.
Wow. Ben just can't give Eli a compliment. Would it hurt to say that he played a good game?
With only 19 attempts for 128 yards, all he had to do was steer the bus, if we're being honest.
Except for the delay of games, Eli played smart. He does not know his WRs, except Lewis, in game situations. I'll give Eli credit for game management tonight. By next week he may know the WRs better and they may know the routes better. Seattle will also need to commit to covering Engram...
credit MacAdoo for getting this team to play and win tonight against all odds, loses any credibility going forward when discussing the coach.
You what to blame him for all the poor football this season, you've got to credit him tonight.
He showed a lot tonight.
Fortunately the players on the team aren t as easy to give up as fans are.
I'm happy the Giants won, but what we saw was McAdoo either finally relent on being too friggin stubborn as a head coach to delegate the play calling duties, or he was forced to. Either way, it worked out for the Giants because they won. It also helped Denver played like shit and the Giants defense stepped up.
Bottom line, McAdoo was making the same mistake Ray Handley made 25+ years ago when he refused to give up his offensive coordinator job and tried to do both and subsequently couldn't manage the whole roster and lost the team. Handley finally gave it up in his 2nd year, by letting Jim Fassel take over, but the horse had left the barn. It remains to be seen if McAdoo will suffer the same fate, but for this one night, it finally came together for a win. Like I said, let's see what happens at home vs. Seattle and was this just a flash in the pan.
You gotta be fair Matt. You said all week this game would be a blood bath. And saying Denver is flat is BS, while it may be true, it doesn't make the victory less impressive.
100% agree with you. I thought it was going to be a blowout. This was a very impressive victory, one that I'm going back thru my own memory bank to think of one that came out of no where in what looked like a lost season. Maybe 1996 vs. the Cowboys when Dave Brown beat them at Giants Stadium. Maybe the season finale vs. the KC Chiefs in Handley's last win as a head coach when they blew out the playoff bound team and Rodney Hampton ran wild. This was your typical "any given Sunday" win by the Giants, which usually doesn't work out for the Giants.
I'm happy they won, I would never have thought so. They played tough and were the better team on the field. But that still doesn't eliminate the fact that the Bronco team which shellacked Dallas a few weeks back was not the same team we saw tonight. They had a stinker and the Giants took advantage. Like I said, I want to see what happens vs. Seattle to see if this was just a random thing or if the Giants might start to slowly dig their way out. I still think it's too late.
RE: RE: RE: Eli Played the Way We Asked Him to Play
Wow. Ben just can't give Eli a compliment. Would it hurt to say that he played a good game?
With only 19 attempts for 128 yards, all he had to do was steer the bus, if we're being honest.
You're right. It's soooo easy, any QB could have done it.
My point was, after Ben was a bit of a jerk throwing Eli under the bus for a few weeks, he should have been looking for an opportunity to pump up his QB, not knock him down again.
I never said it was so easy anyone could do it. What I said is the truth. He didn't have to do a lot, since they had nobody to throw to. The offense was clearly run through the ground game. Don't take it like it's an insult. It would be obviously fake complements to present it like it was some great performance.
Wow. Ben just can't give Eli a compliment. Would it hurt to say that he played a good game?
With only 19 attempts for 128 yards, all he had to do was steer the bus, if we're being honest.
I don't think Eli deserves much talk one way or another for tonight, but that was definitely another unnecessary backhanded compliment from McAdoo.
At this point, there really is no denying there's something wrong there and Ben would probably jump at another QB if Mara let him (he won't, at least not this season).
Not sure if I'm encouraged that the team isn't one large sack of shit, or discouraged at the fact that they could piss away the season before coming up with a game like this.
I wish we could explain why the defense picked this game to show up.
Darkwa
Engram
Apple
JPP
Snacks
Jenkins
And McAdoo
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They'd be 3-3 at least with that kind of performance the rest of the season.
Specials and Defense killed us in at least two games.
That's what bothers me. But, with this type of playcalling and OL, we'd also have won another game or two or three.
Oops, must have used my pre-prepared "we lost" response.
Good thing I didn't use my pre-prepared "Eli died tonight" response.
I... umm... didn't have a pre-prepared "Giants win" response. Although there was a dominant defense tonight. Just not the one we thought. There was a 100-yard rusher. Just not the none we thought.
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Apple was taunting the Broncos as the game ended.
So many unlikable dopes on this 1-5 team.
Pat Leonard is a shit-stirrer. Do you know how much shit gets talked in college, no less the pros? Aqib Talib ripped Crabtree's chain off in a game, ask Broncos fans if they care.
Fair point
Leave the OL alone, with the possible exception of Richburg back in. Pugh and Flowers (who is much improved) at the tackles, and those two mountains at guard.
It's just a correction to some people claiming that changing playcalling is the reason for anything.
So many unlikable dopes on this 1-5 team.
Why would anyone care what happens after the game? They just kicked Denver's ass in Denver. You think Apple is the only player that jawbones after a game. How about enjoying the fact Apple played like a 1st rounder tonight.
Imagine if McAdoo wasn't such an obstinate buffoon and this was the strategy all year???
Not sure if I'm encouraged that the team isn't one large sack of shit, or discouraged at the fact that they could piss away the season before coming up with a game like this.
The D is more confusing. They have the same DC and some key players out. This D shows up the 3 weeks prior and they are at least 3-3.
But also, let's not lose sight of the fact that the Broncos threw up an absolute zero tonight. They were flat as a pancake, they looked like a team that expected to walk out there and have the Giants roll over and they got their asses kicked as a result. No one would have thought the Giants first blowout in years would be in Denver after starting 0-5. That was probably the worst game Denver has played, at home, in many years.
Still, it's nice to actually win again. Let's see what they can do against Seattle.
I hope Met Life is filled with loud fans supporting this team, because I think the Seahawks can be beaten!
GO BIG BLUE!!
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They got up 10-0 and the D played lights out. UP 17-3 and then 20-3, what would you have them do? Should they throw downfield to a bunch of guys who weren't on the roster last week to pile on points? When you are up by 2 TDs or more in the second half and your D is playing great, and the opposing O keeps shooting itself in the foot and your running game finally showed up, you do exactly what they did. You run the ball and play D until the game dictates otherwise.
It's just a correction to some people claiming that changing playcalling is the reason for anything.
Team is best suited when the is the aggressor and the offense is low risk.
But also, let's not lose sight of the fact that the Broncos threw up an absolute zero tonight. They were flat as a pancake, they looked like a team that expected to walk out there and have the Giants roll over and they got their asses kicked as a result. No one would have thought the Giants first blowout in years would be in Denver after starting 0-5. That was probably the worst game Denver has played, at home, in many years.
Still, it's nice to actually win again. Let's see what they can do against Seattle.
You what to blame him for all the poor football this season, you've got to credit him tonight.
He showed a lot tonight.
Fortunately the players on the team aren t as easy to give up as fans are.
I'm not saying that it's NOT the play calling, I just don't know how everyone can be that sure, since execution is more important than play calling.
Are you being serious? There was still time left and the FG required Denver to get 2 TD's.
Clock management - take a knee, practically no time elapses. Run or pass the ball, risk a turnover. Kick the FG - extra points to ensure victory as well as a kickoff afterwards to run some more time off the clock.
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But speaking of questionable, what was the point of kicking the field goal. Seemed kind of shitty.
Are you being serious? There was still time left and the FG required Denver to get 2 TD's.
With 30 seconds?
You what to blame him for all the poor football this season, you've got to credit him tonight.
He showed a lot tonight.
Fortunately the players on the team aren t as easy to give up as fans are.
I'm happy the Giants won, but what we saw was McAdoo either finally relent on being too friggin stubborn as a head coach to delegate the play calling duties, or he was forced to. Either way, it worked out for the Giants because they won. It also helped Denver played like shit and the Giants defense stepped up.
Bottom line, McAdoo was making the same mistake Ray Handley made 25+ years ago when he refused to give up his offensive coordinator job and tried to do both and subsequently couldn't manage the whole roster and lost the team. Handley finally gave it up in his 2nd year, by letting Jim Fassel take over, but the horse had left the barn. It remains to be seen if McAdoo will suffer the same fate, but for this one night, it finally came together for a win. Like I said, let's see what happens at home vs. Seattle and was this just a flash in the pan.
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They got up 10-0 and the D played lights out. UP 17-3 and then 20-3, what would you have them do? Should they throw downfield to a bunch of guys who weren't on the roster last week to pile on points? When you are up by 2 TDs or more in the second half and your D is playing great, and the opposing O keeps shooting itself in the foot and your running game finally showed up, you do exactly what they did. You run the ball and play D until the game dictates otherwise.
It's just a correction to some people claiming that changing playcalling is the reason for anything.
How is it not? They finally put in an OL more suited to run the ball, which I'm assuming Sullivan had something to do with. Then they commit to the run and it worked. And, they finally featured the star TE that they drafted to do just what he did tonight. Yes, I think Sullivan had something to do with all of that.
Engram had 5 catches.
Flukerhas been playing for a couple of weeks now. Pugh finished the game at RT last week when Hart got hurt. And he played RT when Hart was hurt the weeks before, IIRC
Darkwa and Gallman had 30 carries tonight.
Darkwa, Gallman, and Vereen had 24 carries last week.
Gallman, Vereen, & Perkins had 25 carries the week before that.
They didn't just commit to running the ball tonight.
The biggest difference is actually the defense playing better.
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credit MacAdoo for getting this team to play and win tonight against all odds, loses any credibility going forward when discussing the coach.
You what to blame him for all the poor football this season, you've got to credit him tonight.
He showed a lot tonight.
Fortunately the players on the team aren t as easy to give up as fans are.
I'm happy the Giants won, but what we saw was McAdoo either finally relent on being too friggin stubborn as a head coach to delegate the play calling duties, or he was forced to. Either way, it worked out for the Giants because they won. It also helped Denver played like shit and the Giants defense stepped up.
Bottom line, McAdoo was making the same mistake Ray Handley made 25+ years ago when he refused to give up his offensive coordinator job and tried to do both and subsequently couldn't manage the whole roster and lost the team. Handley finally gave it up in his 2nd year, by letting Jim Fassel take over, but the horse had left the barn. It remains to be seen if McAdoo will suffer the same fate, but for this one night, it finally came together for a win. Like I said, let's see what happens at home vs. Seattle and was this just a flash in the pan.
You gotta be fair Matt. You said all week this game would be a blood bath. And saying Denver is flat is BS, while it may be true, it doesn't make the victory less impressive.
With only 19 attempts for 128 yards, all he had to do was steer the bus, if we're being honest.
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Fluker has been playing for a couple of weeks now. Pugh finished the game at RT last week when Hart got hurt. And he played RT when Hart was hurt the weeks before, IIRC
Darkwa and Gallman had 30 carries tonight.
Darkwa, Gallman, and Vereen had 24 carries last week.
Gallman, Vereen, & Perkins had 25 carries the week before that.
They didn't just commit to running the ball tonight.
The biggest difference is actually the defense playing better.
The running game was working last week when Hart was in the game. In fact, the right side was blocking better for runs than the left side last week. I think Fluker may well be making a difference.
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Wow. Ben just can't give Eli a compliment. Would it hurt to say that he played a good game?
With only 19 attempts for 128 yards, all he had to do was steer the bus, if we're being honest.
You're right. It's soooo easy, any QB could have done it.
My point was, after Ben was a bit of a jerk throwing Eli under the bus for a few weeks, he should have been looking for an opportunity to pump up his QB, not knock him down again.
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Fluker has been playing for a couple of weeks now. Pugh finished the game at RT last week when Hart got hurt. And he played RT when Hart was hurt the weeks before, IIRC
Darkwa and Gallman had 30 carries tonight.
Darkwa, Gallman, and Vereen had 24 carries last week.
Gallman, Vereen, & Perkins had 25 carries the week before that.
They didn't just commit to running the ball tonight.
The biggest difference is actually the defense playing better.
The running game was working last week when Hart was in the game. In fact, the right side was blocking better for runs than the left side last week. I think Fluker may well be making a difference.
Fluker's a snow plow as a run blocker, so it's not a surprise, but if he's going to play, you have to call a run-heavy offense because he'll get exposed on as many passes as McAdoo seemed to want to throw.
At least now they seem to be playing to presumed strengths, but I don't think they're good enough to run even when the other team knows it's coming.
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Wow. Ben just can't give Eli a compliment. Would it hurt to say that he played a good game?
With only 19 attempts for 128 yards, all he had to do was steer the bus, if we're being honest.
Except for the delay of games, Eli played smart. He does not know his WRs, except Lewis, in game situations. I'll give Eli credit for game management tonight. By next week he may know the WRs better and they may know the routes better. Seattle will also need to commit to covering Engram...
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credit MacAdoo for getting this team to play and win tonight against all odds, loses any credibility going forward when discussing the coach.
You what to blame him for all the poor football this season, you've got to credit him tonight.
He showed a lot tonight.
Fortunately the players on the team aren t as easy to give up as fans are.
I'm happy the Giants won, but what we saw was McAdoo either finally relent on being too friggin stubborn as a head coach to delegate the play calling duties, or he was forced to. Either way, it worked out for the Giants because they won. It also helped Denver played like shit and the Giants defense stepped up.
Bottom line, McAdoo was making the same mistake Ray Handley made 25+ years ago when he refused to give up his offensive coordinator job and tried to do both and subsequently couldn't manage the whole roster and lost the team. Handley finally gave it up in his 2nd year, by letting Jim Fassel take over, but the horse had left the barn. It remains to be seen if McAdoo will suffer the same fate, but for this one night, it finally came together for a win. Like I said, let's see what happens at home vs. Seattle and was this just a flash in the pan.
You gotta be fair Matt. You said all week this game would be a blood bath. And saying Denver is flat is BS, while it may be true, it doesn't make the victory less impressive.
100% agree with you. I thought it was going to be a blowout. This was a very impressive victory, one that I'm going back thru my own memory bank to think of one that came out of no where in what looked like a lost season. Maybe 1996 vs. the Cowboys when Dave Brown beat them at Giants Stadium. Maybe the season finale vs. the KC Chiefs in Handley's last win as a head coach when they blew out the playoff bound team and Rodney Hampton ran wild. This was your typical "any given Sunday" win by the Giants, which usually doesn't work out for the Giants.
I'm happy they won, I would never have thought so. They played tough and were the better team on the field. But that still doesn't eliminate the fact that the Bronco team which shellacked Dallas a few weeks back was not the same team we saw tonight. They had a stinker and the Giants took advantage. Like I said, I want to see what happens vs. Seattle to see if this was just a random thing or if the Giants might start to slowly dig their way out. I still think it's too late.
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Wow. Ben just can't give Eli a compliment. Would it hurt to say that he played a good game?
With only 19 attempts for 128 yards, all he had to do was steer the bus, if we're being honest.
You're right. It's soooo easy, any QB could have done it.
My point was, after Ben was a bit of a jerk throwing Eli under the bus for a few weeks, he should have been looking for an opportunity to pump up his QB, not knock him down again.
I never said it was so easy anyone could do it. What I said is the truth. He didn't have to do a lot, since they had nobody to throw to. The offense was clearly run through the ground game. Don't take it like it's an insult. It would be obviously fake complements to present it like it was some great performance.
It looked like he hit the guy with a knockout punch
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Wow. Ben just can't give Eli a compliment. Would it hurt to say that he played a good game?
With only 19 attempts for 128 yards, all he had to do was steer the bus, if we're being honest.
I don't think Eli deserves much talk one way or another for tonight, but that was definitely another unnecessary backhanded compliment from McAdoo.
At this point, there really is no denying there's something wrong there and Ben would probably jump at another QB if Mara let him (he won't, at least not this season).