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Al Michaels compares NYG to Harvey Weinstein.....

No Where Man : 10/16/2017 1:17 am
https://twitter.com/xmasape/status/919751547160088577

Social Media is all over him.....
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Michaels should  
KWALL2 : 10/16/2017 2:06 am : link
Get too much abuse.

Late night guys are ripping the fool. "Don't eat the basil at the Weinsteins...". And things like that.

Michaels wasn't funny. Maybe he thought it would be. Who cares? it wasn't something that should be a problem for the guy.
Shouldn't  
KWALL2 : 10/16/2017 2:06 am : link
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Really???  
Bchurch : 10/16/2017 2:07 am : link
Who cares...
RE: ...  
Joe in Cambridge : 10/16/2017 2:16 am : link
In comment 13651129 Eric from BBI said:
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Tone deaf.

Because rape is so funny, isn't it Al?

There have been an awful lot of jokes told about Harvey Weinstein over the last week on TV.
There are a shitload of people on social media  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 10/16/2017 2:21 am : link
just waiting for someone to say something that they can pretend to be outraged by.

Their major objective is to get someone canned so they can carve another notch into their gunstocks.
He made a joke  
Vanzetti : 10/16/2017 2:22 am : link
Relax

There was nothing wrong with what he said. He was not demeaning rape or sexual asssult

This PC bullshit is out of control
It was a typical  
Allen in CNJ : 10/16/2017 5:08 am : link
Al Michaels half-ass attempt at humor. He does it all the time with his little offbeat one liners and has been doing it since he's been on the air @ ABC.

This PC stuff is ridiculous - I get it it may have been too soon but he had to apologize? Come on...
It was funny to me.  
section125 : 10/16/2017 6:52 am : link
When he apologized, I didn't know what it was for...
He  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 10/16/2017 6:57 am : link
Said the Giants week was almost as bad as Harvey Weinsteins. Big fucking deal.
RE: He  
nybeast : 10/16/2017 7:35 am : link
In comment 13651216 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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Said the Giants week was almost as bad as Harvey Weinsteins. Big fucking deal.



For real! Geeez, people have their panties in a wad. If he joke was on a certain person in the WH and his bad week, I don't think there would be nearly the "outrage." I dare say, no one on NBC would then make Michaels apologize in that instance. The double standards is getting absurd at this point between what's allowable on one side and what's not on the other.
__________________  
I am Ninja : 10/16/2017 9:01 am : link
I'm personally not offended by it, but damn you gotta be smarter than that. You gotta know you're gonna get killed for it.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/16/2017 9:04 am : link
I don't understand the responses here.

We're talking about RAPE. Do you guys even understand what RAPE actually is?

What if Michaels had said, the Giants have had as bad a week as the shooting victims in Las Vegas?


Ha ha ha ha ...

Yeah, really don't get the PC references  
jcn56 : 10/16/2017 9:08 am : link
And someone must have read Michaels the riot act, because after a commercial break he came back with an apology. When's the last time you heard someone apologize for putting their foot in their mouth that quickly?

Of course, Michaels is at least old, and can play the whole 'Back in the day' card. James Corden did something just as stupid, what's his excuse?
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well...bye TC : 10/16/2017 9:09 am : link
In comment 13651357 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't understand the responses here.

We're talking about RAPE. Do you guys even understand what RAPE actually is?

What if Michaels had said, the Giants have had as bad a week as the shooting victims in Las Vegas?


Ha ha ha ha ...

It was an AWFUL joke. Beyond cringeworthy. I said so in the game thread at the time.
RE: It was a typical  
Mike in NY : 10/16/2017 9:11 am : link
In comment 13651187 Allen in CNJ said:
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Al Michaels half-ass attempt at humor. He does it all the time with his little offbeat one liners and has been doing it since he's been on the air @ ABC.

This PC stuff is ridiculous - I get it it may have been too soon but he had to apologize? Come on...


Rape is not something that should be joked about. That is not me being PC, but just stating the obvious. That being said, I do agree with your first paragraph that Al Michaels tries to be funny, but there is something off about his references.
Saying that the Giants week..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/16/2017 9:12 am : link
was almost as bad as Harvey Weinstein's is obviously a joke. And it is saying nothing about rape.

If anything, he's saying that the Giants had one hell of a shitty week.

But the time it takes to have to explain this doesn't seem worth it - far less effort goes into hearing something and taking the faux outrage stance.

HE SAID WHAT!!!
He didn't compare the Giants to rape.  
Brown Recluse : 10/16/2017 9:12 am : link
He said they were having as bad a week as Harvey Weinstein.

Good grief. I can't fathom how people can spend so much energy looking for things to be offended over. It has to be exhausting.

I spent  
well...bye TC : 10/16/2017 9:13 am : link
24 hrs in the ER with cops and drs last yr when my 20 yr old daughter was date raped. But ya , you kow Im just being PC...
And..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/16/2017 9:14 am : link
your daughter getting date raped has absolutely nothing to do with Al Michaels except to heighten your outrage at comments that have nothing to do with her.

RE: I spent  
Brown Recluse : 10/16/2017 9:14 am : link
In comment 13651382 well...bye TC said:
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24 hrs in the ER with cops and drs last yr when my 20 yr old daughter was date raped. But ya , you kow Im just being PC...


Ok, I know people who have been raped as well. But the joke really wasn't pointing at rape specifically. It was pointing to someone who's been under intense scrutiny.
It was an insensitive joke  
well...bye TC : 10/16/2017 9:18 am : link
its not about being PC. I forgot about it almost immediately. Its the PC whiners that I have a problem with. Some jokes just arent funny. Anyway at least we won a game.
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Ceez2.0 : 10/16/2017 9:21 am : link
In comment 13651357 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't understand the responses here.

We're talking about RAPE. Do you guys even understand what RAPE actually is?

What if Michaels had said, the Giants have had as bad a week as the shooting victims in Las Vegas?


Ha ha ha ha ...


This. To say it was in poor taste is putting it lightly. There's a reason why he apologized the very next segment.
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RetroJint : 10/16/2017 9:23 am : link
In comment 13651357 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't understand the responses here.

We're talking about RAPE. Do you guys even understand what RAPE actually is?

What if Michaels had said, the Giants have had as bad a week as the shooting victims in Las Vegas?


Ha ha ha ha ...


At this point, allegations of rape. Mel Brooks, a truly funny man, nailed it recently when he said that PC was the death of comedy. This coming from a guy , a Jew, who made a spoof musical about Hitler, the embodiment of evil.

I take it you regard yourself as a libertarian . What should concern you is not Michaels comment, which in no way condoned rape or sexual harassment . Rather it was the manner in which the hammer came down on Al. He's never been afraid to advance conservative commentary . For crissakes , he admits to golfing with Limbaugh. Oh, and I laughed . I thought it was funny.
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Brown Recluse : 10/16/2017 9:24 am : link
In comment 13651420 Ceez2.0 said:
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In comment 13651357 Eric from BBI said:


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I don't understand the responses here.

We're talking about RAPE. Do you guys even understand what RAPE actually is?

What if Michaels had said, the Giants have had as bad a week as the shooting victims in Las Vegas?


Ha ha ha ha ...




This. To say it was in poor taste is putting it lightly. There's a reason why he apologized the very next segment.


I'd bet money that the reason he apologized had less to do with actually being sorry and more to do with knowing he was about to get slammed by hypersensitive social media white knights.
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jcn56 : 10/16/2017 9:24 am : link
In comment 13651427 RetroJint said:
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In comment 13651357 Eric from BBI said:


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I don't understand the responses here.

We're talking about RAPE. Do you guys even understand what RAPE actually is?

What if Michaels had said, the Giants have had as bad a week as the shooting victims in Las Vegas?


Ha ha ha ha ...




At this point, allegations of rape. Mel Brooks, a truly funny man, nailed it recently when he said that PC was the death of comedy. This coming from a guy , a Jew, who made a spoof musical about Hitler, the embodiment of evil.

I take it you regard yourself as a libertarian . What should concern you is not Michaels comment, which in no way condoned rape or sexual harassment . Rather it was the manner in which the hammer came down on Al. He's never been afraid to advance conservative commentary . For crissakes , he admits to golfing with Limbaugh. Oh, and I laughed . I thought it was funny.


You somehow associate that with conservative commentary?

People are really much dumber than anyone gives them credit for.
Do..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/16/2017 9:25 am : link
jokes exist that aren't insensitive to somebody?
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Brown Recluse : 10/16/2017 9:26 am : link
In comment 13651435 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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jokes exist that aren't insensitive to somebody?


I think you should change your handle. I know too many people who are obese and the word "fat" is offensive and derogatory. People die from being overweight. Its not funny.
Says the..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/16/2017 9:27 am : link
guy with the racist handle!!
It wasn't open mic night at Caroline's  
jcn56 : 10/16/2017 9:30 am : link
it was a football game broadcast on national TV.

You know, one of those places where you figure you don't have to hear about Weinstein, the Vegas shooting, etc.

Credit to them though - he said something stupid, and apologized for it. That should be the end of it. The Corden response was much more ridiculous, a series of tweets talking about how he was not trying to shame the victim but the aggressor.
RE: Says the..  
Brown Recluse : 10/16/2017 9:33 am : link
In comment 13651440 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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guy with the racist handle!!


haha!
Never like the schmuck  
Bluesbreaker : 10/16/2017 9:33 am : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:19 am : link : reply
Tone deaf.

Because rape is so funny, isn't it Al?

It's a typical lefty response he's a friggen tool .
Yes it is out of control  
Bluesbreaker : 10/16/2017 9:37 am : link
He made a joke
Vanzetti : 2:22 am : link : reply
Relax

There was nothing wrong with what he said. He was not demeaning rape or sexual asssult

This PC bullshit is out of control

Have you seen the new laws in La La Land ? I doubt the rape victims see any humor in this but carry on ...
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RetroJint : 10/16/2017 9:37 am : link
In comment 13651431 jcn56 said:
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In comment 13651427 RetroJint said:


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In comment 13651357 Eric from BBI said:


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I don't understand the responses here.

We're talking about RAPE. Do you guys even understand what RAPE actually is?

What if Michaels had said, the Giants have had as bad a week as the shooting victims in Las Vegas?


Ha ha ha ha ...




At this point, allegations of rape. Mel Brooks, a truly funny man, nailed it recently when he said that PC was the death of comedy. This coming from a guy , a Jew, who made a spoof musical about Hitler, the embodiment of evil.

I take it you regard yourself as a libertarian . What should concern you is not Michaels comment, which in no way condoned rape or sexual harassment . Rather it was the manner in which the hammer came down on Al. He's never been afraid to advance conservative commentary . For crissakes , he admits to golfing with Limbaugh. Oh, and I laughed . I thought it was funny.



You somehow associate that with conservative commentary?

People are really much dumber than anyone gives them credit for.


Fuck you, you jerkoff. What I meant is Michaels has always been anti-PC. The political spectrum doesn't influence it at all.

Pea brain, consider this. A few years back I attended the stage redux of Thr Producers. When I got to my seat ,I discovered that Dolph Schayes ((RIP) was seated next to me, along with Naomi , his wife . I began to feel uncomfortable . They were a Jewish couple. You know what? Dolph laughed his sacks off throughout the whole play.

Now dickless , consider this: That play probably couldn't be done today. Certainly within 10 years it would not. And that is the conservative point I'm trying to make. We are losing the First Anendment.
hollywood is so full of shit its hilarious  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/16/2017 9:38 am : link
they cry about jokes like Al's yet give a standing ovation to Roman Polanski and fucking kiss the floor of Woody Allen.

spare me
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jcn56 : 10/16/2017 9:43 am : link
In comment 13651458 RetroJint said:
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In comment 13651427 RetroJint said:


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In comment 13651357 Eric from BBI said:


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I don't understand the responses here.

We're talking about RAPE. Do you guys even understand what RAPE actually is?

What if Michaels had said, the Giants have had as bad a week as the shooting victims in Las Vegas?


Ha ha ha ha ...




At this point, allegations of rape. Mel Brooks, a truly funny man, nailed it recently when he said that PC was the death of comedy. This coming from a guy , a Jew, who made a spoof musical about Hitler, the embodiment of evil.

I take it you regard yourself as a libertarian . What should concern you is not Michaels comment, which in no way condoned rape or sexual harassment . Rather it was the manner in which the hammer came down on Al. He's never been afraid to advance conservative commentary . For crissakes , he admits to golfing with Limbaugh. Oh, and I laughed . I thought it was funny.



You somehow associate that with conservative commentary?

People are really much dumber than anyone gives them credit for.



Fuck you, you jerkoff. What I meant is Michaels has always been anti-PC. The political spectrum doesn't influence it at all.

Pea brain, consider this. A few years back I attended the stage redux of Thr Producers. When I got to my seat ,I discovered that Dolph Schayes ((RIP) was seated next to me, along with Naomi , his wife . I began to feel uncomfortable . They were a Jewish couple. You know what? Dolph laughed his sacks off throughout the whole play.

Now dickless , consider this: That play probably couldn't be done today. Certainly within 10 years it would not. And that is the conservative point I'm trying to make. We are losing the First Anendment.


Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what the Founding Fathers had in mind with the First Amendment, protecting rape jokes during football broadcasts.

That play could be made the same way today - the same way they have movies and other art that gets protested left and right.

But convince your feeble, elderly mind that America is circling down the shit tubes because a half in the bag Al Michaels says something stupid on TV and gets called out for it, that's brilliant.
It was a stupid joke, not meant to demean anyone  
PatersonPlank : 10/16/2017 9:44 am : link
People need to lighten up
He made a bad joke  
oghwga : 10/16/2017 9:44 am : link
but saying a serial rapist had a bad week because his accusers came forward is really stupid and he should apologize. He did.

Nothing PC about it.
it was a foolish thing to say  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/16/2017 9:56 am : link
he's a sports broadcaster and he made light of the week had by a guy who has been finally outed this week for being a sexual predator. His comment essentially conveys "boy, Harvey Weinstein can't catch a break this week." There are a lot of people, women especially, who think our society takes sexual assault against women way too lightly

It was inappropriate and it was necessary that he apologized immediately on air. Michaels isn't a comedian, this wasn't a comedy club, and this wasn't a joke in someone's living room.

It's even more cringe-worthy when you consider how much the NFL is trying to show that it cares about stopping violence against women, it seems even more tone-deaf.

It doesn't make Al Michaels a terrible person. But it was an idiotic decision to make that joke at best; at worst, it suggests a person who takes sexual assault lightly.
Or he thought the Giants were coming off a really shitty week.  
Motley Two : 10/16/2017 9:58 am : link
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Hold on, RetroJint,  
Pego61 : 10/16/2017 10:01 am : link
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Pea brain, consider this. A few years back I attended the stage redux of Thr Producers. When I got to my seat ,I discovered that Dolph Schayes ((RIP) was seated next to me, along with Naomi , his wife . I began to feel uncomfortable . They were a Jewish couple. You know what? Dolph laughed his sacks off throughout the whole play.


You were worried about Dolph Schayes's reaction to The Producers? What Jew would be offended by The Producers? It is literally a musical made by Jew, essentially for the enjoyment of Jews. If there was ever a musical made for Jews, aside from Fiddler, it's that.
I totally understand why some people  
eclipz928 : 10/16/2017 10:16 am : link
would have been rubbed wrong the wrong way by the joke, but really it was harmless.

Unfortunately this is just a biproduct of how we're at a point right now where there is a more than usual overlap between sports and the ongoing social issues in the country - reflected both in the fact that Michaels felt comfortable making that quip during the telecast, and also in the reaction to it on social media.

Things are just so tense right now in the current political environment that even seemingly tepid remarks about a current event is met with intense scrutiny.
Anytime I hear... You can't joke about something  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 10/16/2017 10:24 am : link
I'm always remind of George Carlin's bit about rape. I'll share.

Ohh, some people don't like you to talk like that. Ohh, some people like to shut you up for saying those things. You know that. Lots of people. Lots of groups in this country want to tell you how to talk. Tell you what you can't talk about. Well, sometimes they'll say, well you can talk about something but you can't joke about it. Say you can't joke about something because it's not funny. Comedians run into that shit all the time.

Like rape. They'll say, "You can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny." I say, "Fuck you, I think it's hilarious. How do you like that?" I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd. See? Hey, why do you think they call him "Porky," eh? I know what you're going to say. "Elmer was asking for it. Elmer was coming on to Porky. Porky couldn't help himself, he got a hard-on, he got horny, he lost control, he went out of his mind."

A lot of men talk like that. A lot of men think that way. They think it's the woman's fault. They like to blame the rape on the woman. Say, "She had it coming, she was wearing a short skirt." These guys think women ought to go to prison for being cock teasers: don't seem fair to me.

Don't seem right, but you can joke about it. I believe you can joke about anything. It all depends on how you construct the joke. What the exaggeration is, what the exaggeration is. Because every joke needs one exaggeration; every joke needs one thing to be way out of proportion.

Give you an example. Did you ever see a news story like this in the paper? Every now and then you run into a story, says, "Some guy broke into a house, stole a lot of things, and while he was in there, he raped an 81 year old woman." And I'm thinking to myself, "Why!? What the fuck kind of a social life does this guy have?" I want to say, "Why did you do that!?" "Well, she was coming on to me. We were dancing and I got horny. Hey, she was asking for it, she had on a tight bathrobe." I'll say, "Jesus Christ, be a little fucking selective next time, will you?"

Now, speaking of rape, do you know what I wonder? I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole. These are the kind of things I think about when I'm sitting home alone and the power goes out. I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole. I mean per capita, I know the populations are different.

Most people think it's the equator: I think it's the north pole. People think it's the equator because it's hot down there, they don't wear a lot of clothing, guys can see women's tits, they get horny and there's a lot of fucking going on.

That's exactly why there's less rape at the equator: because there's a lot of fucking going on. You can tell there's a lot of fucking at the equator, take a look at the population figures. Billions of people live near the equator. How many Eskimos do we have? Thirty? Thirty-five? No one's getting laid at the north pole, it's too fucking cold.

Guys say to their wives, "Hey, tonight honey, huh? Tonight, huh?" "Are you crazy? The wind chill factor is three hundred below." These guys are deprived. They're horny; they're pent up. Every now and then - puhpmm! They bust out, they got to rape somebody.

Now, the biggest problem an Eskimo rapist has: trying to get wet leather leggings off a woman who is kicking. Did you ever try to get leather pants off of someone who doesn't want to take them off? You would lose your hard-on in the process. Up at the north pole your dick would shrivel up like a stack of dimes.

That's another thing I wonder. I wonder, does a rapist have a hard-on when he leaves the house in the morning, or does he develop it during the day while he's walking around looking for somebody? These are the kind of thoughts that kept me out of the really good schools
RE: Never like the schmuck  
montanagiant : 10/16/2017 10:28 am : link
In comment 13651450 Bluesbreaker said:
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:19 am : link : reply
Tone deaf.

Because rape is so funny, isn't it Al?

It's a typical lefty response he's a friggen tool .

Erics about as conservative as it gets you dumb fuck
I also do not see it as a big deal  
Boatie Warrant : 10/16/2017 11:55 am : link
No we are not talking about Rape. We are talking about a guy who used a bad analogy about an "alleged" rapists week and a football teams week.

I for one found it funny and cringe worthy at the same time. As in "Damn that's wrong, but semi true". But I am definitely not offended by the comment. Then again not much offends me. I don't give enough of a shit to care in most cases.
RE: it was a foolish thing to say  
jcn56 : 10/16/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13651492 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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he's a sports broadcaster and he made light of the week had by a guy who has been finally outed this week for being a sexual predator. His comment essentially conveys "boy, Harvey Weinstein can't catch a break this week." There are a lot of people, women especially, who think our society takes sexual assault against women way too lightly

It was inappropriate and it was necessary that he apologized immediately on air. Michaels isn't a comedian, this wasn't a comedy club, and this wasn't a joke in someone's living room.

It's even more cringe-worthy when you consider how much the NFL is trying to show that it cares about stopping violence against women, it seems even more tone-deaf.

It doesn't make Al Michaels a terrible person. But it was an idiotic decision to make that joke at best; at worst, it suggests a person who takes sexual assault lightly.


This, exactly - he made a stupid comment in the moment, someone caught it over there (if he didn't realize it himself) and he corrected the mistake. Beyond that, there's no sense in defending it.

When half the women in Hollywood are all over the news reporting they've been exposed to systemic harassment (and in some cases, outright sexual assault), an entertainment entity trying to expand it's demographic to include more women should try to avoid making jokes about that.
bad judgement....  
BillKo : 10/16/2017 12:08 pm : link
and he apologized immediately after the commercial. Sure, someone probably told the broadcast crew Twitter was blowing up over it but a sincere apology seems like enough to me.

As someone said above, it's a sports show and you don't necessarily want outside news - esp a joke in bad taste - to appear. And the NFL doesn't need more attention drawn to it in that way so Al should be obviously more aware.

People make mistakes, you apologize and move on.......there are worse things.
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Stan in LA : 10/16/2017 12:08 pm : link
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"You...don't want it to lead to a witch hunt atmosphere, a Salem atmosphere, where every guy in an office who winks at a woman is suddenly having to call a lawyer to defend himself."


Woody Allen on Harvey Weinstein sexual assault accusations
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jcn56 : 10/16/2017 12:16 pm : link
In comment 13651811 Stan in LA said:
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"You...don't want it to lead to a witch hunt atmosphere, a Salem atmosphere, where every guy in an office who winks at a woman is suddenly having to call a lawyer to defend himself."


Woody Allen on Harvey Weinstein sexual assault accusations



Great, just what we needed, Woody Allen taking up our cause.

Signed,
Sexual Predators Everywhere
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BlackLight : 10/16/2017 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13651357 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't understand the responses here.

We're talking about RAPE. Do you guys even understand what RAPE actually is?

What if Michaels had said, the Giants have had as bad a week as the shooting victims in Las Vegas?


Ha ha ha ha ...


This is a truly silly comparison.
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christian : 10/16/2017 3:17 pm : link
What's borering on worse than PC run wild is the hyperbolic instisting that when dumbass gets dressed down for being a dumbass, that equates to "outrage."

Al Michaels made a bad joke, in poor taste. It was awkward, it was ill-timed, and maybe worst of all not even funny.

Getting shit on for being stupid is not outrage, it's life.
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