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Jones played solid game

phils2008 : 10/16/2017 8:28 am
Richburg, shouldn't be handed his job back when he's ready. Jones was solid. He looked like he new what he was doing. He got off the ball and was moving downfield on run blocks. Some of his chips in pass protection made a huge difference.
I have been thinking of Richburg  
cjd2404 : 10/16/2017 8:36 am : link
a couple weeks now. Outside of knowing our Line has issues (putting it mildly I know) I was curious if we should kick WR out to Guard where he played his rookie year. At least we sit Jerry.

However, I do not know what the fall off is between Richburg and Jones.
I've been saying it for quite some time  
Tuckrule : 10/16/2017 8:38 am : link
Richburg isn't good and was getting a free pass. He's weak and often collapses the pocket. Jones is an upgrade
been calling for Jones to have more playing time since last year  
SHO'NUFF : 10/16/2017 8:40 am : link
I would still like to sit John Jerry when Richburg gets healthy.
RE: I've been saying it for quite some time  
ajr2456 : 10/16/2017 8:47 am : link
In comment 13651301 Tuckrule said:
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Richburg isn't good and was getting a free pass. He's weak and often collapses the pocket. Jones is an upgrade


We shouldn't be spending money on Richburg this offseason. Bring back Pugh and either roll with Jones or draft a replacement. For all the shit Flowers gets Eli also rarely has a pocket to to step into because Ricuburg can't control his blocks.
RE: been calling for Jones to have more playing time since last year  
phils2008 : 10/16/2017 8:48 am : link
This line, Flowers, Jerry, Jones, Fluker, and Pugh earned the right to play a few games together. I wouldn't put Richburg in at this point.


In comment 13651306 SHO'NUFF said:
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I would still like to sit John Jerry when Richburg gets healthy.
Richburg  
djstat : 10/16/2017 8:50 am : link
Was overrated. Little push, and he is not that good. I said it week 1. He does not drive people off the ball. Product of media hype.
Leave Jones at C,he's the future & he's better than Richburg  
TheMick7 : 10/16/2017 8:57 am : link
Richburg will be an FA this off season & gone.
Jones had a great block when we took the ball over inside the 1  
Ira : 10/16/2017 9:01 am : link
that created a huge hole for Darkwa.
RE: Jones had a great block when we took the ball over inside the 1  
JFIB : 10/16/2017 9:05 am : link
In comment 13651350 Ira said:
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that created a huge hole for Darkwa.


Yes he did! It was at an extremely critical time in the game too. He also laid the block that sprung Darkwa for his big run earlier in the game. Jones has absolutely earned the right to hold that spot for another week. It will be interesting to see what Mac does here.
Richburg was ranked as a 3rd - 4th rounder by most...  
x meadowlander : 10/16/2017 9:11 am : link
...based on that, he hardly underachieved. We were all hoping the Giants knew something everyone else didn't - that he was worth the 2nd round pick.

He wasn't.

From NFL.com 2014 draft projection: "Weaknesses - Lacks ideal girth and could be stressed by widebody nose tackles. Average hip snap -- lacks body power to blow defensive tackles off the ball. Lacks elite athleticism to execute reach blocks. Can improve grip strength to better control defenders (average sustain) -- slides off some blocks. Inconsistent contact balance, especially at the second level where he can be more efficient connecting and fitting.

Bottom Line - Adequate-sized, smart, experienced, competitive center who commanded the offensive line, made all the calls and was a team leader for the Rams. At worst, should stick as a backup, but has developmental value and starter potential in a zone scheme. Could help himself by proving versatile enough to back up at guard."

Not even close  
Carl in CT : 10/16/2017 9:22 am : link
Jones way better.
Richburg  
spike : 10/16/2017 10:14 am : link
Ha s been on a scholarship due to his draft status
If I was a betting man, I'd say Richburg goes back in when he's  
Simms11 : 10/16/2017 10:18 am : link
ready. Jones proved that he can be a starter in this league and should be given more opportunity, but that's generally not the way the Giants do things. Jones usually gets good leverage on DTs and he uses his size wisely. If he continues this type of play, he could definitively make Richburg expendable. Even Sean I hate made more of Jones play and he knows a thing or two a out the position. Jones was extremely successful in the CFL and although not the same quality as the NFL, it's still Football. It's taken Jones a couple of years to get used to the NFL game where the DTS line right up on top of you.
Ugh autocorrect  
Simms11 : 10/16/2017 10:20 am : link
Even Shawn O'Hara made note of Jones' play and he knows a thing or two about the position.
No way I mess with the line......  
BillKo : 10/16/2017 11:50 am : link
although I would think about Richburg maybe at guard, to see if that could be his spot?

Not sure if he's physical enough to play guard.....I just don't like Jerry despite having a decent game last night.
OL  
giants#1 : 10/16/2017 12:00 pm : link
I think this OL earned at least another start with the current configuration. That said, not sure Jones is the long term answer at C. He might've been better than Richburg, but I saw a couple busted runs where he got pushed back and his man made the play. I'd be curious to know how some of the experts grade his overall performance yesterday.

Keep in mind that Sy/gidiefor and others have mentioned that the running game issues weren't all on the OL and some of it was the RB(s) missing the holes or hitting them late.
RE: been calling for Jones to have more playing time since last year  
Beer Man : 10/16/2017 12:49 pm : link
In comment 13651306 SHO'NUFF said:
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I would still like to sit John Jerry when Richburg gets healthy.
+1. Move Jones to LG and Jerry to backup (although I have to admit Jerry did play a decent game last night)
If you call Richburg a bad player  
Rflairr : 10/16/2017 1:30 pm : link
You can’t be taken seriously when talking about football
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