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#84 Ed Eagan

Fish : 10/16/2017 11:40 am
Looked good on punt returns. Mconkey esque.... Solid hands, good speed.
His one return  
ryanmkeane : 10/16/2017 11:41 am : link
in the second half was probably better than every Harris punt return the past 3 seasons...
fish  
Marty866b : 10/16/2017 11:44 am : link
Are you comparing him to McConkey because Eagan is a small,white guy?lol.
RE: His one return  
Justlurking : 10/16/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13651735 ryanmkeane said:
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in the second half was probably better than every Harris punt return the past 3 seasons...


seriously. See ya Dwayne
Im not  
Fish : 10/16/2017 11:45 am : link
saying he should be #80 also but it couldn't hurt. lol
Why the f  
spike : 10/16/2017 11:46 am : link
Did we pay Harris so much money to suck
LOL...McConkey did one thing well...  
BillKo : 10/16/2017 11:47 am : link
catch the ball.

He was a below average, if not poor, punt returner.
I thought...  
Chris in Philly : 10/16/2017 11:47 am : link
he took some questionable fair catches...
RE: I thought...  
BillKo : 10/16/2017 11:53 am : link
In comment 13651755 Chris in Philly said:
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he took some questionable fair catches...


Yeah, there was one he certainly could have returned, and the one he did make a good return on was a bit risky I thought, but sometimes that's how you break'em.

Let's hope he keeps improving.
RE: I thought...  
nygiants16 : 10/16/2017 11:57 am : link
In comment 13651755 Chris in Philly said:
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he took some questionable fair catches...


first job of a punt returner is to catch the ball, if you feel uncomfortable at all fair catch it
RE: Why the f  
nygiants16 : 10/16/2017 11:57 am : link
In comment 13651752 spike said:
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Did we pay Harris so much money to suck


he has been their best special teams player every year he has been here and one year filled in nicely as the slot wr...
Harris also beat Dallas single handedly  
NoPeanutz : 10/16/2017 12:01 pm : link
a couple of years ago.
He's a sure-handed, experienced ST player, and would have been a difference maker on this team with 13 and 15 in surgery and 87 in a boot.
Harris  
Fish : 10/16/2017 12:02 pm : link
best trait was his sure hands. Appears Eagan has same trait so far. Harris has not been a game changer and yet he is paid to be one.
RE: Harris also beat Dallas single handedly  
ryanmkeane : 10/16/2017 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13651789 NoPeanutz said:
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a couple of years ago.
He's a sure-handed, experienced ST player, and would have been a difference maker on this team with 13 and 15 in surgery and 87 in a boot.

As you mentioned, that was 2 years ago. He sucks as a returner. He's a great gunner. And no, he's not sure handed. He has bobbled and fumbled plenty of punts.
RE: RE: Why the f  
giants#1 : 10/16/2017 12:04 pm : link
In comment 13651776 nygiants16 said:
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Did we pay Harris so much money to suck



he has been their best special teams player every year he has been here and one year filled in nicely as the slot wr...


While I think Harris gets unfairly criticized here, special teams aces, particularly gunners, are guys you should be able to draft late or pick up as UFAs. You shouldn't have to sign them to deals like the one Harris got. It wasn't huge, but certainly had an impact on the inability to add a FA OL.
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Rory : 10/16/2017 12:15 pm : link
In comment 13651801 giants#1 said:
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Did we pay Harris so much money to suck



he has been their best special teams player every year he has been here and one year filled in nicely as the slot wr...



While I think Harris gets unfairly criticized here, special teams aces, particularly gunners, are guys you should be able to draft late or pick up as UFAs. You shouldn't have to sign them to deals like the one Harris got. It wasn't huge, but certainly had an impact on the inability to add a FA OL.


If you can pin a team inside their own 5 yard line 3-4 times a game to start a series you drastically improve your probability of scoring and wining a game

Harris is prob worth at least 2-3 wins last season and about 10 in his career with the Giants.

I mean holy shit , find someone else to blame
Rory  
ryanmkeane : 10/16/2017 12:18 pm : link
in no way shape or form is Harris worth 2 or 3 wins a season. He is a very good gunner, yes. But he absolutely sucks now as a return man.
He  
AcidTest : 10/16/2017 12:26 pm : link
looked good. But let's see what happens the rest of the season before anointing him Harris's successor,
RE: Rory  
Rory : 10/16/2017 12:26 pm : link
In comment 13651835 ryanmkeane said:
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in no way shape or form is Harris worth 2 or 3 wins a season. He is a very good gunner, yes. But he absolutely sucks now as a return man.


When you have a top 5 D , IMO pinning teams inside their own 5-10 yard line is more advantageous then a 20-30 yard run back.
Harris was not a good punt returner  
Vanzetti : 10/16/2017 12:30 pm : link
but he was a demon in punt coverage. And he was a serviceable backup at WR.
the Giants won 11 games last year  
giants#1 : 10/16/2017 12:34 pm : link
You're telling me that Eli + Beckham + Vernon + JPP + Snacks + Collins + Jenkins were only worth 8-9 wins combined?

There isn't a special teams player in the league worth 2-3 wins/year. Maybe Hester in his prime.
Wow, ryanmkeane  
Doomster : 10/16/2017 12:36 pm : link
His one return
ryanmkeane : 11:41 am : link : reply
in the second half was probably better than every Harris punt return the past 3 seasons...

You do have the ass for Harris.....you seem to have forgotten the punt and kickoff returns for TDs...last season when we continued to throw Cruz out there, with diminishing results, but we never used Harris as a receiver, even though he was targetted once, all season, for a td....

Now if you had said the past two seasons, ok....
I'd like to see what he can do ....  
Manny in CA : 10/16/2017 12:44 pm : link

From the slot ....

https://youtu.be/JUN77MOu2fw

Poor man's Cole Beasley ?

https://youtu.be/lzeY8WCugqY
RE: LOL...McConkey did one thing well...  
jvm52106 : 10/16/2017 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13651754 BillKo said:
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catch the ball.

He was a below average, if not poor, punt returner.


He was a perfect returner for us in the mid to late 80's because he never fumbled, he knew when to catch and not catch and was sneaky quick who could get positive yardage though nothing major..

RE: Why the f  
Matt M. : 10/16/2017 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13651752 spike said:
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Did we pay Harris so much money to suck
Harris was good in year 1 in all areas, including WR. Last year he was an absolutely terrible KR and PR and got about 10 snaps at WR all year. I don't care how good of a gunner he was, I thought he should have been cut this year.
Before he came up with that nice sideline return  
Phil in LA : 10/16/2017 1:36 pm : link
I thought he had been ordered to fair catch everything.
RE: Before he came up with that nice sideline return  
Blue21 : 10/16/2017 2:05 pm : link
In comment 13652007 Phil in LA said:
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I thought he had been ordered to fair catch everything.


Me too. In fact the punt before that he had no one around for about ten yards with blocking in front and I couldn't believe he didn't attempt a return. The last piunt was great . We need more of that. As far as McConkey comparison he has a long way to go before I would consider that comparison.

The guy  
EJJ : 10/16/2017 2:24 pm : link
Is fast!! He looks pretty short though not Eli kind of Target. I bet you would do well on screens and reverses but downfield you have a hard time finding him
Looks like until at least  
RetroJint : 10/16/2017 2:32 pm : link
Shep's return, they're going to be playing a lot of 2 & 3 TEs , like the Giants '90, see Mrosko. But I'd like to see this guy in the slot . He's quicksilver & can change directions without stopping . Interesting player .

The rest of the current WRs are outside guys.
RE: RE: LOL...McConkey did one thing well...  
bluepepper : 10/16/2017 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13651901 jvm52106 said:
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catch the ball.

He was a below average, if not poor, punt returner.



He was a perfect returner for us in the mid to late 80's because he never fumbled, he knew when to catch and not catch and was sneaky quick who could get positive yardage though nothing major..

Well he did fumble once. Not a coincidence that that was his last game as a Giant. Parcells woke up and realized that "don't fumble" was too low a bar for a punt returner especially since they all fumble eventually. In came Meggett and he along with Reyna Thompson took our ST to the next level.
RE: fish  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/16/2017 11:51 pm : link
In comment 13651744 Marty866b said:
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Are you comparing him to McConkey because Eagan is a small,white guy?lol.

Good Motor, LOL
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