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EJJ : 10/16/2017 12:14 pm
Does he make sense? No I'm not delusional or living in the past he's not the same player I get that BUT....
We brought back BJ back in 2013 in a similar situation. Cruz knows the plays, teammates and coaches. He could be the slot guy again. After last night none of the WRs stood out. On a one year low cost deal why not. He said some stupid things on the way out but others have done worse.
I agree  
giantfan2000 : 10/16/2017 12:22 pm : link
people dissed Cruz last year but the guy made a number of key receptions that set up wins
he disappeared in second half of season ..

but after boating excursion last year and Cruz comments after he left Giants
I think Macdoo and organization have moved on
Huge Cruz fan  
Capt. Don : 10/16/2017 12:23 pm : link
but he is no longer an NFL player.

You might say, "well, neither is Travis Rudolph" and you might be right but at least Rudolph has the potential to become one.

Im sorry to say it but the rest of the season is about evaluation while trying to win.
Where does SS play then?  
Doomster : 10/16/2017 12:24 pm : link
Neither one is WR, they are both slot guys....

After the way he played last season, you would think the Giants brass knows what they have in VC....guess that is why he has not been an option....
4 WRs Went Down...  
Jim in Tampa : 10/16/2017 12:28 pm : link
And 3 "new" ones were signed. If the Giants had any interest in Cruz, he would have been one of the 3 or at very least he would have been brought in for a "look see".

The fact that he wasn't even considered means that he's done with the Giants and likely with the NFL as well.
Smith, Nicks, Cruz  
BillT : 10/16/2017 12:37 pm : link
Devastating losses.
The Bears  
ajr2456 : 10/16/2017 12:42 pm : link
WR situation is a bad as ours right now and they cut him.
This needs to be about the future  
AnnapolisMike : 10/16/2017 12:48 pm : link
NOT the past. Cruz does nothing to help the Giants become a better team moving forward.
RE: This needs to be about the future  
JohnB : 10/16/2017 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13651898 AnnapolisMike said:
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NOT the past. Cruz does nothing to help the Giants become a better team moving forward.


+1
Idk if Cruz makes sense  
Bleedblue10 : 10/16/2017 12:54 pm : link
But we need to bring someone in. I vote for Boldin or VJax
RE: Where does SS play then?  
wonderback : 10/16/2017 12:56 pm : link
In comment 13651851 Doomster said:
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Neither one is WR, they are both slot guys....

After the way he played last season, you would think the Giants brass knows what they have in VC....guess that is why he has not been an option....


Bingo!
Cruz? bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!  
SterlingArcher : 10/16/2017 12:58 pm : link
Please, get serious.
The Giants don't need a slot receiver  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/16/2017 1:00 pm : link
they need wide outs - Cruz is not a good wide out
please stop....  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/16/2017 1:04 pm : link
,
Why would Cruz even be a consideration?  
johnnyb : 10/16/2017 1:14 pm : link
Foolish thought. He burned the bridge, and his skill level is extremely diminished. Why go there?
Giants likely will not bring back VC  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/16/2017 1:18 pm : link
Maybe next time keep your mouth shut Victor or instead show some appreciation for the team that gave you a chance.
RE: The Bears  
Gmen8691 : 10/16/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13651886 ajr2456 said:
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WR situation is a bad as ours right now and they cut him.

I scrolled down just to see if anyone posted the Bears WR corp. If he couldn't make that roster with those terrible WR's then he doesn't have it anymore.
Please,  
oldog : 10/16/2017 1:58 pm : link
lets salsa again.
bears  
giantfan2000 : 10/16/2017 3:18 pm : link
Quote:
I scrolled down just to see if anyone posted the Bears WR corp


bears was same issue as giants .. they already had a slot receiver

another thing is Cruz knows the Giants offense .. so his knowledge and experience is what would help the team right now
Prefer we find a new WR and develop him  
TMS : 10/16/2017 3:29 pm : link
rather than get another over the hill retread who has seen better days. Cruz wants back into the NYC lime light probably hoping he will get another gig outside of FB. He has a lot of TIKI in him. Pass
Don't forget  
Doomster : 10/16/2017 4:14 pm : link
Smith, Nicks, Cruz
BillT : 12:37 pm : link : reply
Devastating losses.

Don't forget Mario.....I felt he was starting to get it with Eli....wish we had re-signed him instead of letting him go to SF, and getting the likes of Barden, Beckum, and Randle....
For what?  
Giant John : 10/16/2017 4:58 pm : link
A coach? Please make it stop!
RE: Prefer we find a new WR and develop him  
Gmen8691 : 10/16/2017 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13652145 TMS said:
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rather than get another over the hill retread who has seen better days. Cruz wants back into the NYC lime light probably hoping he will get another gig outside of FB. He has a lot of TIKI in him. Pass

Tiki in him? No clue what you're talking about.
Dear god no  
NYG07 : 10/16/2017 7:18 pm : link
I went to college with Cruz and have met his mother Blanca. My wife still has some communication with her on social media. I lost all respect for him when he tried to claim that the Giants intentionally hindered his production last year. He made a couple big time catches last year but ultimately could never get open. We will all never forget his 2011 season but he is toast.
Don't go there  
Jimmy Googs : 10/16/2017 7:49 pm : link
.
People here are comically disloyal to the the Giants  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 10/16/2017 9:51 pm : link
who got them to the top when those players fall on hard times. The exception, of course, is Eli, who can bungle around any way he pleases as long as the OL is bad.

There's a basic principle here that many don't seem to understand. You can't catch the ball if it's not thrown to you. Only thrown to 42 times in the first half of the season, Cruz only caught 25.

And he dropped a few balls. It happens, especially when everyone has the microscope on you and are putting extra pressure on you. How many key passes has Beckham dropped this year before the injury?

When Eli finally threw to Cruz in double digits, in the Philly game, he caught 8 of the 13 passes for 84 yards. On the season with limited opportunity he caught 7 passes 29 yards or longer and 3 40+ yard bombs, with another called back due to a penalty.

Every time a receiver is mauled here for not catching many passes it's because he "isn't getting separation."

Most of the people here couldn't tell whether a receiver is getting separation even when they're watching the game live, instead of on TV. Like on TV the cameras record every receivers route and show it to you? Don't think so.

Anyone who was paying attention saw Eli constantly under pressure trying to force the ball to OBJ, who was often double or triple covered but, being Beckham, still caught the ball and made some yards.

Proof of this is shown the reception that Marshall was given this year. Targeted nine times in the first two games, only about four of them catchable. Marshall dropped an important pass, so, many said, he's a bust. He wasn't getting separation.

When in games 3 and 4 and thrown the ball 21 times, Marshall started to catch more passes. What a surprise.

RE: People here are comically disloyal to the the Giants  
Devon : 10/16/2017 11:30 pm : link
In comment 13652624 SB 42 and 46 and ? said:
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who got them to the top when those players fall on hard times. The exception, of course, is Eli, who can bungle around any way he pleases as long as the OL is bad.

There's a basic principle here that many don't seem to understand. You can't catch the ball if it's not thrown to you. Only thrown to 42 times in the first half of the season, Cruz only caught 25.

And he dropped a few balls. It happens, especially when everyone has the microscope on you and are putting extra pressure on you. How many key passes has Beckham dropped this year before the injury?

When Eli finally threw to Cruz in double digits, in the Philly game, he caught 8 of the 13 passes for 84 yards. On the season with limited opportunity he caught 7 passes 29 yards or longer and 3 40+ yard bombs, with another called back due to a penalty.

Every time a receiver is mauled here for not catching many passes it's because he "isn't getting separation."

Most of the people here couldn't tell whether a receiver is getting separation even when they're watching the game live, instead of on TV. Like on TV the cameras record every receivers route and show it to you? Don't think so.

Anyone who was paying attention saw Eli constantly under pressure trying to force the ball to OBJ, who was often double or triple covered but, being Beckham, still caught the ball and made some yards.

Proof of this is shown the reception that Marshall was given this year. Targeted nine times in the first two games, only about four of them catchable. Marshall dropped an important pass, so, many said, he's a bust. He wasn't getting separation.

When in games 3 and 4 and thrown the ball 21 times, Marshall started to catch more passes. What a surprise.


If it was all about Eli and the Giants holding him back, he'd be on another team right now. He would have made it beyond the Bears' third string this past preseason.

He's not and didn't. He's done. It sucks when injuries do that to guys, but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
RE: People here are comically disloyal to the the Giants  
johnnyb : 10/17/2017 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13652624 SB 42 and 46 and ? said:
Quote:
who got them to the top when those players fall on hard times. The exception, of course, is Eli, who can bungle around any way he pleases as long as the OL is bad.

There's a basic principle here that many don't seem to understand. You can't catch the ball if it's not thrown to you. Only thrown to 42 times in the first half of the season, Cruz only caught 25.

And he dropped a few balls. It happens, especially when everyone has the microscope on you and are putting extra pressure on you. How many key passes has Beckham dropped this year before the injury?

When Eli finally threw to Cruz in double digits, in the Philly game, he caught 8 of the 13 passes for 84 yards. On the season with limited opportunity he caught 7 passes 29 yards or longer and 3 40+ yard bombs, with another called back due to a penalty.

Every time a receiver is mauled here for not catching many passes it's because he "isn't getting separation."

Most of the people here couldn't tell whether a receiver is getting separation even when they're watching the game live, instead of on TV. Like on TV the cameras record every receivers route and show it to you? Don't think so.

Anyone who was paying attention saw Eli constantly under pressure trying to force the ball to OBJ, who was often double or triple covered but, being Beckham, still caught the ball and made some yards.

Proof of this is shown the reception that Marshall was given this year. Targeted nine times in the first two games, only about four of them catchable. Marshall dropped an important pass, so, many said, he's a bust. He wasn't getting separation.

When in games 3 and 4 and thrown the ball 21 times, Marshall started to catch more passes. What a surprise.


And some players- ex- giants- are comically disloyal to the organization that paid them millions and allowed them the opportunity to perform. He burned a bridge that was very good to him.
Cruz burned his bridges here  
EddieNYG : 10/17/2017 4:18 pm : link
Remember what he said after the Giants released him that the team sabotaged his career by not targeting him in the 2nd half of the season:

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“I felt it all year long. Halfway through the year I’m balling; the other half I’m not getting the ball. And you’re just like, ‘what’s going on?’ It was like ‘OK, I see what’s happening. They don’t want me here anymore.’ A lot of people probably don’t know this … Let’s say I played well. Was a 1,000-yard receiver last year. It would have been more difficult from a fan perspective to cut me. If I am a 1,000-yard guy, they’re like ‘why are you cutting Cruz? He just 1,000 yards and five or six touchdowns. That doesn’t make sense.’ But if I have 500 yards or whatever the case may be, it’s a little easier on the fans.”

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