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NFT: Game 3 - ALCS - Yankees vs Astros from The Stadium - 8p FS1

B in ALB : 10/16/2017 5:31 pm
I'm gonna give this a whirl folks. Pitching matchup and lineups featured tonight in the Bronx. Looks like Headcase gets the nod over Ells.

CC Sabathia
14-5
3.69 ERA
9-5 in 20 postseason starts
7-2 with the Yankees

vs

Charlie Morton
14-7
3.62 ERA



Must-win for the Yanks tonight. I expect The Stadium to be absolutely rocking.

LGY.
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Don't think I've ever seen more bitching about an 8-1 win before  
Greg from LI : 10/16/2017 11:36 pm : link
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nice to draw blood  
Stu11 : 10/16/2017 11:38 pm : link
Like Pat the Rat always says- a series doesn't begin till you break serve on the road...Like the match-up tomorrow. Lets get it to 2-2 and go from there
Awesome win...  
Bchurch : 10/16/2017 11:39 pm : link
Love this team... they don't get down or rattled.
Game ball to CC  
Dave in PA : 10/16/2017 11:39 pm : link
We'll need him one more time yet
Anyway, that eases some of the pressure  
Greg from LI : 10/16/2017 11:40 pm : link
Brad Peacock is another nondescript pitcher despite the good year he had. Need to keep the quality starts going with Gray.
RE: Don't think I've ever seen more bitching about an 8-1 win before  
bceagle05 : 10/16/2017 11:40 pm : link
In comment 13652814 Greg from LI said:
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Yeah that was a little much. Tried to get Dellin a mop-up inning, but he had other plans - no big deal. Back in the series.
Girardi has gotten this team  
dune69 : 10/16/2017 11:40 pm : link
to game 4 of the ALCS but everyone questions every move he makes. I think he has this team in good position. People need to chill.
How do you not love Frazier??  
Bchurch : 10/16/2017 11:41 pm : link
Exactly what this team needs. What a move by Cash.
He puts Betances in, which you'd hope in an 8-0 game he  
jcn56 : 10/16/2017 11:42 pm : link
could at least not shit his pants. He shits his pants.

So your options at that point are to play 'hey fuck it, we're up 8 runs', as if the Astros are the Bad News Bears at the plate, and that the heart of their order isn't coming up.

Sounds highly unlikely that a team could score 8 runs in an inning, but it's not impossible. We're playing two more games, but we needed that win now.
Big fan of Frazier  
Kyle in NY : 10/16/2017 11:44 pm : link
Fun interview
RE: ball game  
Kyle in NY : 10/16/2017 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13652810 Matt in SGS said:
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enjoy your oh-fer you little bitch. And fuck you Dellin.


Harsh, he's obviously struggling mightily, mcahcnics are a mess and that's likely it for him this season, but he's been a great pitcher for this team in the past and guarantee nobody feels worse about it than Betances himself
McCullers starting game 4  
Kyle in NY : 10/16/2017 11:53 pm : link
High risk move there, had an 8.23 ERA in the second half after a great start to the season. Need to take advantage
McCullers will go in G4 for the Astros  
dpinzow : 10/16/2017 11:53 pm : link
instead of Peacock, who started G3 of their division series at Fenway and could not survive the 3rd inning
RE: He puts Betances in, which you'd hope in an 8-0 game he  
Del Shofner : 10/16/2017 11:54 pm : link
In comment 13652824 jcn56 said:
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could at least not shit his pants. He shits his pants.

So your options at that point are to play 'hey fuck it, we're up 8 runs', as if the Astros are the Bad News Bears at the plate, and that the heart of their order isn't coming up.

Sounds highly unlikely that a team could score 8 runs in an inning, but it's not impossible. We're playing two more games, but we needed that win now.


This.
I feel terrible for Dellin  
Greg from LI : 10/16/2017 11:55 pm : link
But that has to be it for him this season. He's completely lost for now.
Great game everybody  
B in ALB : 10/16/2017 11:57 pm : link
See you tomorrow!
Interesting we had mixed results vs. McCullers this year  
Stu11 : 10/17/2017 12:00 am : link
handcuffed us at the stadium, but we got to him a bit in Houston. Both in the 1st half.
There was no need to warm up Chapman up 7  
Bgaff : 10/17/2017 12:03 am : link
I don't think anyone is wrong to be upset with that when there are two games in the next 45 hours.
RE: I feel terrible for Dellin  
jcn56 : 10/17/2017 12:03 am : link
In comment 13652840 Greg from LI said:
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But that has to be it for him this season. He's completely lost for now.


That was literally the safest situation you could put him in, and he imploded. For his own sake if not the team's, it's not wise to use him any more.
Very vital to get some runs early tomorrow  
Stu11 : 10/17/2017 12:04 am : link
Houston hasn't hit a lick. Lets let them start feeling a little pressure and start grinding the bat handles a bit...
RE: There was no need to warm up Chapman up 7  
jcn56 : 10/17/2017 12:05 am : link
In comment 13652845 Bgaff said:
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I don't think anyone is wrong to be upset with that when there are two games in the next 45 hours.


Worst case scenario - Kahnle shits the bed, and after walking in a run gives up a grand slam to Altuve. Then you're up 3. You can wait another batter to rush him up, but at that point you can't rely on Kahnle any further either.
CC on yelling at Reddick -  
Del Shofner : 10/17/2017 12:09 am : link
"It was just me being me."
RE: Great game everybody  
Bchurch : 10/17/2017 12:10 am : link
In comment 13652841 B in ALB said:
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See you tomorrow!


Need you starting tomorrows thread my friend. It's all you until you don't have the magic anymore.
How good has Kahnle been in the postseason?  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/17/2017 12:11 am : link
He's been fantastic thus far.
RE: How good has Kahnle been in the postseason?  
Del Shofner : 10/17/2017 12:23 am : link
In comment 13652853 Dave in Hoboken said:
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He's been fantastic thus far.


It hurt to give up Rutherford but you can't knock this trade - Kahnle, Robertson and the Toddfather.
Just got back from the game  
mfsd : 10/17/2017 12:24 am : link
awesome night all around...Stadium was rocking early, and our boys gave us plenty to cheer about. CC now 10-0 after losses this season, including playoffs.

But damn, it sure got cold late...went down to about 50, and felt like 40...the club seats emptied out with an 8 run lead like an elementary school fire drill, but loved how the upper deck and bleachers stayed full and loud with the real fans throughout.

Lot of happy fans packed into the 4 train like sardines for the ride home...nothing better than a big Yankees playoff win at home. Let’s keep mashing tomorrow night!

...  
christian : 10/17/2017 12:30 am : link
It was really quite cold in the stadium not sure if the broadcast captured it. The Judge smash the wall catch was about 10 feet in front of me. It clearly got his juices going. Great win.
I know for some of you its probably rough getting home in time  
Stu11 : 10/17/2017 12:48 am : link
but I love the 5pm starts during the week. get home from work and enjoy the game without it going so late.
Home plate ump  
Phil in LA : 10/17/2017 12:53 am : link
didn't have the guts to give the Astro pitchers free strike calls in NYC, like they did both games in Houston.
This gives me hope  
Jay in Toronto : 10/17/2017 4:13 am : link
Re Judge


Morton - ( New Window )
RE: He puts Betances in, which you'd hope in an 8-0 game he  
Someguy1978 : 10/17/2017 7:22 am : link
In comment 13652824 jcn56 said:
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could at least not shit his pants. He shits his pants.

So your options at that point are to play 'hey fuck it, we're up 8 runs', as if the Astros are the Bad News Bears at the plate, and that the heart of their order isn't coming up.

Sounds highly unlikely that a team could score 8 runs in an inning, but it's not impossible. We're playing two more games, but we needed that win now.



Fully agree.
RE: Home plate ump  
PhiPsi125 : 10/17/2017 7:49 am : link
In comment 13652867 Phil in LA said:
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didn't have the guts to give the Astro pitchers free strike calls in NYC, like they did both games in Houston.


Right, because the Yankees never actually lose games...they are just poor victims of biased strikezones and crooked umpires. JFC, is there a game where you guys don’t cry about the strikezones like it’s some grand conspiracy? Holy shit.
RE: RE: Home plate ump  
section125 : 10/17/2017 7:57 am : link
In comment 13652932 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 13652867 Phil in LA said:


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didn't have the guts to give the Astro pitchers free strike calls in NYC, like they did both games in Houston.



Right, because the Yankees never actually lose games...they are just poor victims of biased strikezones and crooked umpires. JFC, is there a game where you guys don’t cry about the strikezones like it’s some grand conspiracy? Holy shit.


Guess you have been following the strike zone on Judge with mid-calf called strikes as well as pitches outside and low. When the TV announcers are scratching their heads and saying he needs to start speaking up, then you know he is getting bad calls. John Smoltz in particular has been critical of Judge's strike zone.

By the way, how's deGrom's haircut?
Right, Judge struck out 208 times this season because the strikezone  
PhiPsi125 : 10/17/2017 8:02 am : link
sucks...and not because he’s always been prone to strikeouts.

DeGroms haircut...good one.
RE: Right, Judge struck out 208 times this season because the strikezone  
section125 : 10/17/2017 8:29 am : link
In comment 13652937 PhiPsi125 said:
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sucks...and not because he’s always been prone to strikeouts.

DeGroms haircut...good one.


No, he strikes out alot no doubt and always will. But I'd bet 10% of those were caused by a bad strike zone, either putting him in a bad count early or letting the pitcher off the hook when behind.

But basically we are talking playoffs. And when a HoF ex pitcher says he is getting jobbed - then you can bet he is getting jobbed.
Pitchers are purposely throwing balls low to try and get ahead, hoping to get a call. Changes the dynamic of the AB having an obvious ball called a strike.

Judge will always strike out a lot because it is hard to defend a strike zone that big. The pitchers don't need any additional help.
re Betances I can't help not thinking that that dooshbag George  
Victor in CT : 10/17/2017 8:31 am : link
wannabe Randy Levine fucked with his mind some. I'd love to see Hal fire his ass.
section, pitchers getting a favorable strike that changes the  
PhiPsi125 : 10/17/2017 9:00 am : link
complexion of an at bat happens to every team in every game of the season. This isnt something new. And believe me, I’m all for bringing on the robots. Does Judge get screwed more because of how tall he is? Perhaps, I just don’t believe it’s as egregious as it’s made out to be. Not for Judge and not for every other Yankee batter that’s being “screwed.”

However, I’d argue that against Judge, opposing pitchers need all the help they can get lol.
RE: section, pitchers getting a favorable strike that changes the  
section125 : 10/17/2017 9:13 am : link
In comment 13653012 PhiPsi125 said:
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complexion of an at bat happens to every team in every game of the season. This isnt something new. And believe me, I’m all for bringing on the robots. Does Judge get screwed more because of how tall he is? Perhaps, I just don’t believe it’s as egregious as it’s made out to be. Not for Judge and not for every other Yankee batter that’s being “screwed.”

However, I’d argue that against Judge, opposing pitchers need all the help they can get lol.


Every batter gets a bad call once in a while, we know that. Judge seems to get a questionable to outright bad call each game and sometimes it seems each at bat (it isn't).
The point is that when announcers and HoF announcers say he needs to speak up, then it is more than just occasionally and not a figment of my/our imagination. When did you ever hear announcers say that about any batter?
when the umpires are calling the same low strikes for Judge as  
Victor in CT : 10/17/2017 9:37 am : link
do for Altuve something is wrong. When a PITCHER (Smoltz) calls the umps out on it it's REALLY bad.
This is a chart of every called strike against Judge in the playoffs  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2017 9:38 am : link
Now you look at this at tell me he isn't getting screwed quite a bit.
Link - ( New Window )
And keep in mind that probably 5-6 of the 14 or so out of the zone  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2017 9:41 am : link
were called strike 3s
RE: This is a chart of every called strike against Judge in the playoffs  
PhiPsi125 : 10/17/2017 9:56 am : link
In comment 13653074 Greg from LI said:
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Now you look at this at tell me he isn't getting screwed quite a bit. Link - ( New Window )


Do you consider a dot that is touching the outline of the box as a ball or strike? I’d consider it a strike. I looked at some Astros batters and they got screwed also. Judge also sees a ton of pitches, which is another reason he’s so good. He works the count and sometimes pitchers get the call. Is Judge on the wrong side of that call more than he should be? Probably, but everyone is. Sure, Judge may get penalized more becaus of many variables (large zone due to height, working counts, prone to strike out a lot), I just don’t see it as so much worse than what we see every day. HP umpires suck, plain and simple. Sometimes they get fooled. And pitchers with better control normally get the benefit of calls.
RE: This is a chart of every called strike against Judge in the playoffs  
PhiPsi125 : 10/17/2017 9:57 am : link
In comment 13653074 Greg from LI said:
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Now you look at this at tell me he isn't getting screwed quite a bit. Link - ( New Window )


By the way, cool website. I’ve never used that one before.
RE: This is a chart of every called strike against Judge in the playoffs  
Keith : 10/17/2017 10:03 am : link
In comment 13653074 Greg from LI said:
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Now you look at this at tell me he isn't getting screwed quite a bit. Link - ( New Window )


I just looked at the charts for Altuve and Correa to compare. It's hard to compare Altuve because he sees so many fewer pitches, but it's not even close. That low strike call on Judge is just unfair. It's been happening all season long too. I'd like to know how many of those were the 3rd strike as well because it seems like most bad calls are the 3rd strike.
I'd consider starting Romine at catcher and letting Gary DH tonight.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/17/2017 10:57 am : link
Gray had a 1.45 ERA with Romine catching (SSS, I know) and he simply isn't comfortable with Gary catching him. It's not like Chase did anything last night from the DH spot to force his way into the lineup tonight.

Plus, Headley and Ellsbury are a combined 0-15 against McCullers with 6 strikeouts in their careers. Romine is 1-2 against him with a walk.
RE: I'd consider starting Romine at catcher and letting Gary DH tonight.  
Keith : 10/17/2017 10:59 am : link
In comment 13653256 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Gray had a 1.45 ERA with Romine catching (SSS, I know) and he simply isn't comfortable with Gary catching him. It's not like Chase did anything last night from the DH spot to force his way into the lineup tonight.

Plus, Headley and Ellsbury are a combined 0-15 against McCullers with 6 strikeouts in their careers. Romine is 1-2 against him with a walk.


Its not a bad thought at all.
PhiPsi  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/17/2017 11:01 am : link
the guy who always calls out Yankee fans for being trolls comes on a Yankee playoff thread starting shit.

Love the hypocrisy, as per usual.
RE: I'd consider starting Romine at catcher and letting Gary DH tonight.  
BigBlueShock : 10/17/2017 11:04 am : link
In comment 13653256 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Gray had a 1.45 ERA with Romine catching (SSS, I know) and he simply isn't comfortable with Gary catching him. It's not like Chase did anything last night from the DH spot to force his way into the lineup tonight.

Plus, Headley and Ellsbury are a combined 0-15 against McCullers with 6 strikeouts in their careers. Romine is 1-2 against him with a walk.

Stop stealing my ideas. I mentioned this last night in the game thread! Lol
RE: PhiPsi  
PhiPsi125 : 10/17/2017 11:46 am : link
In comment 13653263 Dave in Hoboken said:
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the guy who always calls out Yankee fans for being trolls comes on a Yankee playoff thread starting shit.

Love the hypocrisy, as per usual.


Says the guy who cheered an umpire getting drilled in the face with a foul ball because he didn’t like his strikezone. Yeah, you seem well adjusted. Or 12 years old.

Cry a little more about the strikezone. It’s a good look for you.
RE: RE: PhiPsi  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/17/2017 11:49 am : link
In comment 13653332 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 13653263 Dave in Hoboken said:


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the guy who always calls out Yankee fans for being trolls comes on a Yankee playoff thread starting shit.

Love the hypocrisy, as per usual.



Says the guy who cheered an umpire getting drilled in the face with a foul ball because he didn’t like his strikezone. Yeah, you seem well adjusted. Or 12 years old.

Cry a little more about the strikezone. It’s a good look for you.


I barely even posted on this thread last night, let alone complained about the umpire. Nice try, though.

Still doesn't get away from my point. Butt-hurt Mets fan comes on a Yankee thread in which no one was even talking about the Mets, and comes on here to show just how ass-hurt he is about the Yankees playoff run. If it was the other way around, you'd be going off on the Yankee fan for doing that on a Mets thread.

Keep crying, bitch.
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