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Giants scout pushed hard for Brady back in 2000

yankeeslover : 10/17/2017 12:32 am
Interesting read.
Giants scout pushed hard for GM to take Brady - ( New Window )
Well  
burtmanjack : 10/17/2017 12:42 am : link
Given their recent draft performance the Giants have no such prescient scouts anymore, or they still aren’t listening to them.
Brady would've been a JAG  
SHO'NUFF : 10/17/2017 12:49 am : link
with the Giants.
I brought him up as someone we should  
Phil in LA : 10/17/2017 12:51 am : link
draft and develop behind KC.
Even if the Giants had drafted him  
BlackLight : 10/17/2017 12:52 am : link
who knows how that works out? Collins hardly missed a snap, much less a start, until 2003, and assuming nothing changes, it's fair to wonder if Brady would survive the roster turnover after Coughlin gets hired.
Pats had Drew Bledsoe  
Vanzetti : 10/17/2017 1:36 am : link
A better QB than Collins. Brady took the job from him mid season

Same thing would have happened here imo
RE: Pats had Drew Bledsoe  
Matt M. : 10/17/2017 1:53 am : link
In comment 13652875 Vanzetti said:
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A better QB than Collins. Brady took the job from him mid season

Same thing would have happened here imo
But he got his shot because Bledsoe was injured.
meh  
Giantsfan79 : 10/17/2017 6:09 am : link
I'd rather keep the memories of the Giants beating the Pats twice than have won a bunch like the Pats.
31 other teams  
silverfox : 10/17/2017 6:29 am : link
Wish they had seen that coming.
Easy to say  
djstat : 10/17/2017 6:47 am : link
You pushed hard for a QB 17 years ago.
RE: I brought him up as someone we should  
Jim in Tampa : 10/17/2017 6:58 am : link
In comment 13652864 Phil in LA said:
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draft and develop behind KC.


Link?

;>)
RE: Easy to say  
robbieballs2003 : 10/17/2017 7:04 am : link
In comment 13652905 djstat said:
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You pushed hard for a QB 17 years ago.


But he isnt saying it. EA said the guy did so that has merit.
If the Giants had Brady....  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/17/2017 7:40 am : link
There would not have been a "Tuck Rule" call and the Raiders would have recovered the fumble

cause thats how we roll
This is like one of those news reports  
jcn56 : 10/17/2017 7:48 am : link
after a major upset that some guy had a huge bet on it and cleaned up. You only learn afterward that he makes crazy bets that lose most of the time.

It's his overall record that counts. For all we know, that Brady suggestion was the only thing he was ever right about.
RE: RE: Easy to say  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/17/2017 8:35 am : link
In comment 13652912 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 13652905 djstat said:


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You pushed hard for a QB 17 years ago.



But he isnt saying it. EA said the guy did so that has merit.


you're not following -

He is saying that it's easy for BBI poster Phil in LA to say that
I think the argument could be made that Brady would not be Brady  
Britt in VA : 10/17/2017 8:42 am : link
without Belichick, so even if we did take him, would he ever have become the player he did? Impossible to say, but I'd guess no.
I see that point ... totally understand the rationale.  
Beezer : 10/17/2017 8:49 am : link
But Brady is Brady, and I believe with or without Belichick, he'd have been great and would have done well with the NYG.

Who the hell knows? is the proper response, though. lol

If I did have a time machine and we could go back and grab him then, though, I really don't think I'd do it, knowing what I know about the NYG and Eli. Sure, there's a chance we could end up with as many rings, and even an extra one, but honestly, as spotty as the team's successes have been, I would not trade away the raw, unmatched joy of the two most recent Super Bowl wins with Eli, all things factored.
Let's say the Giants take Brady in 2000.  
an_idol_mind : 10/17/2017 9:03 am : link
Odds would be good Collins stays as quarterback barring injury. He got a high ankle sprain in 2003 which forced his backup to start.

Brady's first start would have been the Saints game (Joe Horn cell phone incident). He certainly would have fared better than Jesse Palmer, but would he have shown enough to keep the Giants from signing Warner and trading for Eli that offseason?
Nobody  
AcidTest : 10/17/2017 9:21 am : link
knows what would have happened. We got Eli, and that's good enough for me.
Honestly, without Brady getting PT  
Beezer : 10/17/2017 9:48 am : link
would we have another (and again, I realize with history available this is hyperbole, but maybe you get the point) Webb situation, where we are overlooking this guy who has done every right, is a film room guy and a gym rat, just because there are some shiny things in the upcoming draft? Never know.
In the alternate timeline where we do draft Brady  
pganut : 10/17/2017 10:20 am : link
Wouldn't it have sucked to have Eli Manning and the Patriots (or Chargers) beat us twice in the Super Bowl?

Perfectly happy with how things worked out.
Hindsight is 20/20 ...  
Beer Man : 10/17/2017 10:47 am : link
Coming out of Michigan where he split the QB duties, Brady wasn't all that highly regarded. Here is one of the draft profiles:

Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.

Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the '99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.

Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.
Accorsi loves to tell stories.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2017 12:27 pm : link
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My dream  
ThatLimerickGuy : 10/17/2017 3:43 pm : link
is to one day see Tom Brady in a Giants uniform.

2019. Eli retires at 38 and Brady at 42 gets pushed out for either Garrapolo or a new hot prospect.

Brady wants one more go and comes to the Giants on a 2 year deal to finish out his career while a youngster is groomed.
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