I said I would be very surprised if it's not Geren, Hale or Long. Personally of the names we know I'd go Cora, then Callaway. I'm on record as a Manny Acta believer as well.
not surprised. The Mets are not an attractive job. Cheap, fucked up
reportedly isn't sure he wants to manage again. Ausmus's decision was more mets centric. Supposedly it's Boston or bust for him. Wasn't interested in the Mets job.
Sox (per their usual style) took personal shots at Farrell on his way out the door. That may or may not be part of it ie hinting at something about him beyond W/L record.
I'm forgetting someone Ausmus is the only one with zero Mets ties they have spoken to. Callaway (if it happens) would be #2. Phillies supposedly have Callaway as their #1 choice.
Sox (per their usual style) took personal shots at Farrell on his way out the door. That may or may not be part of it ie hinting at something about him beyond W/L record.
They did the same with Francona and he's regarded as one of the top managers in all of baseball.
I'm not suggesting whatever they implied is true. Rather, suggesting it may or may not impact why word came down almost immediately the Mets were not interested.
I'm not suggesting whatever they implied is true. Rather, suggesting it may or may not impact why word came down almost immediately the Mets were not interested.
I see. well either way, true or not, the Red Sox MO is trash everyone on the way out, they even trashed Theo.
Larry Lucchino is a major narcissist and can't handle anyone leaving without trashing them and the media is their mouthpiece.
I don't think Sam Kennedy is as bad, but I'm not sure what Larry Lucchino's actual role is now.
reportedly cheated on his wife with a Red Sox (Comcast) reporter a few years back. Him and his wife divorced and his wife wasn't at his press conference when he announced he had cancer. He's got some personal issues beyond this, as well. Or at the very least, there are lots of rumors about this guy being somewhat of a dirtbag.
all Red Sox fans and media dislike the guy, despite the fact that he won them a WS and back to back AL east titles, says all you need to know about the guy.
came down the minute Farrell was fired that the Mets were not interested (unlike Girardi which was never really going to happen but the Mets left the door open to pursuing that).
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And, no, John Farrell isn't deemed as a fit for the Mets.
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John Farrell is available. The Mets need a manager, a source says there's no interest there.
Sounds like for whatever the reason it was totally shut down.
I don't know much about the guy, but seems a bit odd they'd hire a guy who has been with the team for a few years and they haven't exactly been good offensively. Is he a likable guy?
I don't know much about the guy, but seems a bit odd they'd hire a guy who has been with the team for a few years and they haven't exactly been good offensively. Is he a likable guy?
Considered a smart guy who communicates with players well. Very little experience running a team. If they go with Long I presume it will be with someone like Wakamatsu next to him.
reportedly cheated on his wife with a Red Sox (Comcast) reporter a few years back. Him and his wife divorced and his wife wasn't at his press conference when he announced he had cancer. He's got some personal issues beyond this, as well. Or at the very least, there are lots of rumors about this guy being somewhat of a dirtbag.
You have to filter all this stuff in Boston.
Jason Varitek had an affair with a NESN reporter (Heidi Watney) while still married and he's good enough to be considered manager?
John Lackey allegedly left his wife while she was suffering from breast cancer BECAUSE she had cancer.
but he doesn't get trashed (until he left) other than for his pathetic pitching.
Boston is a vicious place. I believe very little from the media that comes out when someone leaves.
I have ZERO insight on Farrell. I was merely tying together the "rumors" with the Mets (through the writers) shooting down Farrell almost instantly. The two things can be totally unrelated but he was the only mentioned candidate they needed to let it be known "nope".
I have ZERO insight on Farrell. I was merely tying together the "rumors" with the Mets (through the writers) shooting down Farrell almost instantly. The two things can be totally unrelated but he was the only mentioned candidate they needed to let it be known "nope".
Callaway. With Warthen gone, he'll hopefully be able to replace a level of expertise that the organization is losing. Also, he's part of an organization that has had a ton of recent success with a small market payroll which is something that the Mets are striving for.
First, doesnt Anderson want a type of manager who will do what he tells him to di? Isnt that why Collins got the job in the first place? The better candidates wanted more control. In line with that, dont the Mets pay a manager on the low scale which is what they did with Collins at the start?
First, doesnt Anderson want a type of manager who will do what he tells him to di? Isnt that why Collins got the job in the first place? The better candidates wanted more control. In line with that, dont the Mets pay a manager on the low scale which is what they did with Collins at the start?
Yup. Alderson wants a specific type of manager who is willing to listen to the FO directives so they want a guy they know they can communicate with + Alderson pre-Mets acknowledged his view of managers being somewhat "overvalued" and finally yes, the Mets do not pay market value for managers and Terry's willingness to take less likely was "part" of the original discussion.
the Mets have no interviews scheduled for Geren or Hale. Maybe just hasn't been scheduled yet.
They have only interviewed Long and have only 2 officially "scheduled" Acta and Cora so unless these are the final 3 there will be more scheduled shortly.
the Mets have no interviews scheduled for Geren or Hale. Maybe just hasn't been scheduled yet.
They have only interviewed Long and have only 2 officially "scheduled" Acta and Cora so unless these are the final 3 there will be more scheduled shortly.
mlb.com (DiComo) says they have plans to interview Long (maybe done), Cora, Callaway, Acta and Joe McEwing.
Francona first job- .440, Mattingly .483, Girardi .481, Hinch .420
Wasnt Torre pretty terrible too? In fact I think he was pretty poor until the Yankees.
Yup. I purposely didn't include Maddon because while he was horrendous the Rays roster was beyond horrendous back then. Even beyond what these other guys have dealt with. Maddon's first year in TB had had 4 starters with a sub .700 OPS.
talent he has at his disposal. Casey Stengel was a clown when he was hired by the Yankees. Look how smart he got after 12 years, 10 pennants and 7 rings
Some Yanks fan's on BBI complain about JGs ingame decisions: Farrell is worth about 10 wins a year....for the opposition.
Sox (per their usual style) took personal shots at Farrell on his way out the door. That may or may not be part of it ie hinting at something about him beyond W/L record.
the shots taken were thinly veiled shots at his character/off field. Not wins and losses. I don't think anybody would have an issue with a manager's lack of winning being cited.
I'm fully expecting Geren or Hale which to me is just meh.
Join the Twins not baseball america lol
Considered to be hyper-intelligent and a potential "great" manager (not my opinion just what I've heard).
Is it the Mets or Farrell?
Is it the Mets or Farrell?
Sox (per their usual style) took personal shots at Farrell on his way out the door. That may or may not be part of it ie hinting at something about him beyond W/L record.
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John Farrell?
Is it the Mets or Farrell?
Sox (per their usual style) took personal shots at Farrell on his way out the door. That may or may not be part of it ie hinting at something about him beyond W/L record.
They did the same with Francona and he's regarded as one of the top managers in all of baseball.
I see. well either way, true or not, the Red Sox MO is trash everyone on the way out, they even trashed Theo.
Larry Lucchino is a major narcissist and can't handle anyone leaving without trashing them and the media is their mouthpiece.
I don't think Sam Kennedy is as bad, but I'm not sure what Larry Lucchino's actual role is now.
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And, no, John Farrell isn't deemed as a fit for the Mets.
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John Farrell is available. The Mets need a manager, a source says there's no interest there.
Sounds like for whatever the reason it was totally shut down.
Red Sox- Cora
Phillies-Callaway
Mets- Hale/Long/Geren
Tigers (less clear) but Fredi Gonzalez/Gardenhire/Kapler have all been mentioned.
Considered a smart guy who communicates with players well. Very little experience running a team. If they go with Long I presume it will be with someone like Wakamatsu next to him.
You have to filter all this stuff in Boston.
Jason Varitek had an affair with a NESN reporter (Heidi Watney) while still married and he's good enough to be considered manager?
John Lackey allegedly left his wife while she was suffering from breast cancer BECAUSE she had cancer.
but he doesn't get trashed (until he left) other than for his pathetic pitching.
Boston is a vicious place. I believe very little from the media that comes out when someone leaves.
my comment was not to you.
Yup. Alderson wants a specific type of manager who is willing to listen to the FO directives so they want a guy they know they can communicate with + Alderson pre-Mets acknowledged his view of managers being somewhat "overvalued" and finally yes, the Mets do not pay market value for managers and Terry's willingness to take less likely was "part" of the original discussion.
Which is why we hired Terry Collins who probably couldnt have gotten another job in all of MLB.
Which is probably why Ausmus is not interested and Cora will wind up in Boston.
And also why we will wind up with Hale, Geren or Long.
Yay Alderson.
No secret how shitty this franchise is run. I wouldn't want to manage here either if I had any other options at all.
They have only interviewed Long and have only 2 officially "scheduled" Acta and Cora so unless these are the final 3 there will be more scheduled shortly.
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the Mets have no interviews scheduled for Geren or Hale. Maybe just hasn't been scheduled yet.
They have only interviewed Long and have only 2 officially "scheduled" Acta and Cora so unless these are the final 3 there will be more scheduled shortly.
mlb.com (DiComo) says they have plans to interview Long (maybe done), Cora, Callaway, Acta and Joe McEwing.
0% chance. Expensive and openly anti-Metrics.
Wasnt Torre pretty terrible too? In fact I think he was pretty poor until the Yankees.
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Francona first job- .440, Mattingly .483, Girardi .481, Hinch .420
Wasnt Torre pretty terrible too? In fact I think he was pretty poor until the Yankees.
Yup. I purposely didn't include Maddon because while he was horrendous the Rays roster was beyond horrendous back then. Even beyond what these other guys have dealt with. Maddon's first year in TB had had 4 starters with a sub .700 OPS.
Im ok with any of the guys except Long and Geren.
I like Cora, Hale, and Callaway. In that order.
But we have no interest in IFAs
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John Farrell?
Is it the Mets or Farrell?
Some Yanks fan's on BBI complain about JGs ingame decisions: Farrell is worth about 10 wins a year....for the opposition.
Sox (per their usual style) took personal shots at Farrell on his way out the door. That may or may not be part of it ie hinting at something about him beyond W/L record.
Alderson is well below average as a GM
The organization is a laughingstock , the last example being firing Ray Ramirez(an Omar guy) and keeping the great guru Barwis
Shecky may be hearing differently but someone with good info previously said internally the expectation is Long will be the next manager of the Mets.
Shecky may be hearing differently but someone with good info previously said internally the expectation is Long will be the next manager of the Mets.
Thats a shame. But not surprising they took the cheapest route. A guy that no one has considered for manager