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NFT: Game 4 - ALCS - Yankees vs Astros from The Stadium - 5p FS1

B in ALB : 10/17/2017 1:42 pm
Here we go ladies. Huge game this afternoon. Absolutely huge. Win and it's all tied up. Lose and the Yankees are playing the elimination game.

Great call by Mr. Shock with the Romine insertion. He'll be behind the dish for Gray and Sanchez will DH. I like it. Here's the pitching matchup - no lineup out for Houston yet - but it's time to get it the fuck on.

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RE: lol it's a lot of pressure starting these threads  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/17/2017 10:32 pm : link
In comment 13654488 DennyInDenville said:
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B to close this out, ill see the next two games then I'm outta state for 3 weeks

Without internet access, hopefully?
Thinking ahead  
Bramton1 : 10/17/2017 10:43 pm : link
I have to still give Houston the edge. The Astros two aces are coming up next, and the Yankees did little or nothing against either one of them in Games 1 and 2.

That said...

If the Yankees can steal a win against either one of them, I like their chances in a Game 7.
What a fun team this is.  
BlueHurricane : 10/17/2017 10:57 pm : link
Just huge fricken stones on them. I just might have to make the 2 hour trek to the Bronx tomorrow and cheer them on against the bearded douche
For all you players and coaches-  
PEEJ : 10/17/2017 11:09 pm : link
Do the hitters get an advantage from seeing a pitcher twice in a week ?
RE: RE: lol it's a lot of pressure starting these threads  
DennyInDenville : 10/17/2017 11:15 pm : link
In comment 13654497 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13654488 DennyInDenville said:


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B to close this out, ill see the next two games then I'm outta state for 3 weeks


Without internet access, hopefully?

lol you silly goose! Only if it's games 5-7 of the WS I would not have internet access, however I might have access to the game lol go figure
RE: What a fun team this is.  
DennyInDenville : 10/17/2017 11:16 pm : link
In comment 13654505 BlueHurricane said:
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Just huge fricken stones on them. I just might have to make the 2 hour trek to the Bronx tomorrow and cheer them on against the bearded douche

Agreed, they really seem to love and really get emotional about this thumbs down gig..

Reminds me of #Allin Giants 2011 on roids
RE: RE: What a fun team this is.  
BlueHurricane : 10/17/2017 11:22 pm : link
In comment 13654518 DennyInDenville said:
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In comment 13654505 BlueHurricane said:


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Just huge fricken stones on them. I just might have to make the 2 hour trek to the Bronx tomorrow and cheer them on against the bearded douche


Agreed, they really seem to love and really get emotional about this thumbs down gig..

Reminds me of #Allin Giants 2011 on roids


And I will be the first to admit I was not a fan of bringing Frazier and his .207 batting average here. Man was I wrong. "Thumbs down"
I was at work with the game on my phone  
chopperhatch : 10/18/2017 12:01 am : link
I almost screamedon the floor right next to guests when they tied it. Then onthe train I deliberately went back to page 6 of this thread and read the sequence of posts up to this point. Very entertaining. Lol
Aaron Judge  
JPinstripes : 10/18/2017 4:23 am : link
has absolutely taken over this series the past 2 games, reminiscent of the way Jeter did in many of series past.
RE: Perhaps section, although  
section125 : 10/18/2017 6:10 am : link
In comment 13654474 B in ALB said:
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I'll gladly give up the baton if you guys would like. Whatever is best for the team.


You are on a roll. Denny is in the on deck circle. I'd stay the course, but that is one vote. Just cannot have RP start it..;->
Just keep seeing those two eighth inning doubles in my head  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2017 7:57 am : link
What a rally.
RE: Aaron Judge  
GentleGiant : 10/18/2017 8:09 am : link
In comment 13654549 JPinstripes said:
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has absolutely taken over this series the past 2 games, reminiscent of the way Jeter did in many of series past.


You know what reminds me the most of Jeter: How his individual futility never shows up on his face and therefore never affects the team. You cannot tell if this guy is on a streak of 10 hrs in 10 games or has struck out 20 times in the playoffs. All he cares about is winning. He and Didi carry that same attitude and it fosters that never say die attitude that Jeter had. How can Sanchez get down on himself when he sees Judge constantly moving forward. That's true leadership.
Most exciting run since'96  
Stu11 : 10/18/2017 8:51 am : link
what makes it even more special for me is my kids are of age (daughter 13, Son 9) where its their first great playoff run. We're all enjoying it together(my wife threw in the towel game 5 vs. Cleveland and didn't even try to get them to sleep before it was over). So many of the other runs this millennium over the years I was either watching it alone at home with everyone asleep upstairs or maybe going out to a bar with a buddy or occasionally going to the stadium. Its awesome bantering back and forth with the kids, Even the wife is getting into it(mainly waiting for them to put her new crush Robertson into the game). Didi's HR's vs. Cleveland, Gardy's AB in the 9th and the rally last night in the 8th the house was literally shaking.
The fun of this for me  
dune69 : 10/18/2017 9:03 am : link
is that during this playoff run, we have spoken about a different "hero" almost every game. Didi, Judge, Sanchez, Bird, Hicks, Frazier, Gardy have all had their highlight moments. I could also talk about the entire pitching staff. This has not been one or two guys carrying the team. Fans get frustrated with every failed at bat but this is the playoffs and you have to enjoy the big moments like the 8th inning last night. This group has no quit.
The hitters get all the accolades  
jcn56 : 10/18/2017 9:25 am : link
but honestly - at the beginning of the season, everyone wrote these guys off because of the rotation. Then, at the start of the playoffs, it was playoff hitting that was going to tear them down.

You end up with the Astros, and how they have no holes in their lineup, so the bullpen is going to be front and center early and often. Instead - the starting pitching has been phenomenal.
KP is not the only unicorn in NY...  
Keith : 10/18/2017 9:26 am : link
Guys that big shouldn't be as athletic and well rounded as Judge is. This kid can do it all. Nobody hits the ball harder as often, he can play the field as well as any RF in the game, he can run, he has a very high baseball IQ, he has 0 ego, he has a rocket of an arm and he's only a rookie. All the talk of Altuve and how impressive he is for doing what he does in such a small frame, its just as impressive for Judge in such a large frame.
Watching all of these mlb shows,  
Keith : 10/18/2017 9:27 am : link
theres a lot of talk about Keuchel and Verlander, but we have a few aces pitching the next two as well. Tanaka and Severino can be just as good.
RE: KP is not the only unicorn in NY...  
Elisthebest : 10/18/2017 9:29 am : link
In comment 13654628 Keith said:
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Guys that big shouldn't be as athletic and well rounded as Judge is. This kid can do it all. Nobody hits the ball harder as often, he can play the field as well as any RF in the game, he can run, he has a very high baseball IQ, he has 0 ego, he has a rocket of an arm and he's only a rookie. All the talk of Altuve and how impressive he is for doing what he does in such a small frame, its just as impressive for Judge in such a large frame.

I very much agree with the overall tone of your text but find it somewhat ironic that you note that he can run and has a very high baseball IQ after last nights game
96' is definitely the parallel for me...  
x meadowlander : 10/18/2017 9:29 am : link
...not that you can go and make player by player comparisons - but the vibe - young, exciting - is unmistakable.
Cmon,  
Keith : 10/18/2017 9:30 am : link
nobody is perfect. It looked like he lost the ball, it happens. He has a very high baseball IQ, that much is known already, despite one mistake.
What I like..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2017 9:31 am : link
about this team is the grit.

They have critics complaining about Judge's K's, Sanchez's D and Joe's use of challenges or bullpen selection. And each time Judge gets a ball at his ankles called a strike or a ball 4 inches off the plate, he trudges back to the dugout without saying a word. When Sanchez has a passed ball, the guys in the booth rip him, but he shrugs it off (and I won't even mention that Romine had the only ever catcher's interference and it cost them a lead).

This team doesn't get down - they just band together. When they blow a lead at cleveland and are on the brink of elimination - they win. And they do it without being the hated team Yankees of the past were.

I'm thoroughly enjoying them, especially Frazier. Guy just looks like he enjoys the moment. Tough to tell because we're constantly looking at shots of Altuve, but hey - that's OK.
RE: Cmon,  
Elisthebest : 10/18/2017 9:33 am : link
In comment 13654635 Keith said:
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nobody is perfect. It looked like he lost the ball, it happens. He has a very high baseball IQ, that much is known already, despite one mistake.

Like I sad, I agree just found it ironic
This team reminds me very much of the  
Keith : 10/18/2017 9:34 am : link
2016 Cubs. Very young bats with some vets mixed in all around.
Crazy to think that this team  
Keith : 10/18/2017 9:35 am : link
still has 2 top elite prospects just waiting in the wings. Fun team and the start of something great.
I've been thinking about that Cubs team  
Kyle in NY : 10/18/2017 9:40 am : link
And when we got down 2-0 in this series I was wondering if maybe this was like the 2015 Cubs moment (great first round win but swept in the LCS). That learning moment in the playoffs before the big payoff the next season.

But this group continues to overcome the doubts. This could be something special.
They've already exceeded all but the wildest expectations  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2017 9:49 am : link
Just need to finally figure out how to hit Keuchel at least a bit in order to grab control of this series.
The problem is as fans we have shitty short term memories  
jcn56 : 10/18/2017 9:49 am : link
Go back a few months, and everyone would just love to make the playoffs.

Get close to winning the division - miss by a couple of games, and people are pissed that some blown saves cost them the division.

Get into the playoffs - and we'll be happy to do well against Cleveland. Go down 0-2 after a managerial brain fart, and people want Girardi dead. All anyone wants at this point is to see some fight.

Team roars back from 0-2, and it's house money. Houston's a tough customer, but we're all just glad to be here, right? No chance given against Keuchel, why aren't we trotting Sonny Gray out there. The Yankees play two close games, and people are pissed that the bats go silent and that two possibly winnable games are lost.

It's not just us, it's fan psychology. We lose track of how hard it is to win sometimes.
yea I have looked at them a lot as the 2015 Cubs  
Stu11 : 10/18/2017 9:50 am : link
kind of arriving a year early with all the young position players. Will be interesting to see how this ends. You still have to like Houston's hand- with 2 of the potentially 3 games remaining at home, and your 2 best pitchers going the next 2. However that mountain has gotten a shit ton smaller since Saturday night. Plus there is a lot of pressure for Keuchel/Verlander to pitch really deep into games because 6+ or even 7 innings won't cut it if the game is close.
if Tanaka and Sevi give us 6+ great innings we have a path to victory  
Stu11 : 10/18/2017 9:53 am : link
Houston very well might not if Verlander/Keuchel do the same.
RE: if Tanaka and Sevi give us 6+ great innings we have a path to victory  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2017 9:54 am : link
In comment 13654665 Stu11 said:
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Houston very well might not if Verlander/Keuchel do the same.


This is true. More pressure on the Astros' starters to be great because they know how shaky their pen is.
one thing that concerns me  
GentleGiant : 10/18/2017 9:59 am : link
is that last night, for the 2nd time in the playoffs the Yankees did not have their 3rd baseman guarding the line in a close and late situation. They made that mistake in the Cleveland comeback loss and it almost cost them again last night when Frazier inexplicable was off the line for the Gurriel double. In the 90's I remember Nardi Contreras constantly on the top step of the dugout moving fielders, sometimes between pitches. Whoever is doing this for the Yankees needs to be more observant, that's a basic tenet of baseball, the ball goes to one side it's one run the other it's 3, guard against the 3.
Tickets  
TyreeHelmet : 10/18/2017 10:00 am : link
All over seatgeek looking for tickets for the game today. Any suggestions? Best bang for your buck section? Hoping to spend under 175.
I have a good feeling about this  
dune69 : 10/18/2017 10:22 am : link
[youtube]watch?v=-Msi4XLDrP4[/youtube]
RE: I have a good feeling about this  
dune69 : 10/18/2017 10:25 am : link
In comment 13654735 dune69 said:
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[youtube]watch?v=-Msi4XLDrP4[/youtube]


Old people with a computer should be outlawed
Great to see them take the ball the other way  
Jeever : 10/18/2017 10:37 am : link
I've been screaming at my TV for them to do just that. I blame the hitting coach for not drilling this into the team. When you try to pull a good breaking ball you either miss it, pop it up or pound it in the ground. Every now and then you'll get lucky but not often.

Likewise if your approach is to take the ball the other way you stay on the breaking ball a lot longer and square it up more often. The pitchers will adjust by coming inside more and you know what happens to mistakes made on the inside part of the plate. Judge, Didi and Sanchez lose them for you.
That eighth inning rally was so reminiscent of the good ol' days.  
bceagle05 : 10/18/2017 10:46 am : link
Stadium rocking, pitcher on the ropes - you just knew the hits would keep coming.
everything is always about blame here  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2017 10:46 am : link
Never "hey, some pitchers have really been lights out against them" and "bats have been in a bit of a funk in the series". No, it's "I blame the hitting coach!" "I blame the bench coach!" "I blame Sonny Gray!" "I blame Gary Sanchez!".....ok, well, Gary WAS to blame in game 2, but my point stands.
MBL channel had a good break down of Sanchez last night.  
Pete in 'Vliet : 10/18/2017 10:47 am : link
They've been pitching him a similar pitch sequence all series; Low curve, low curve, high and tight fastball, and its been killing him until last night.

Starting with the sac fly, it looks like he began to anticipate the sequence. The fastball he hit the double on was a bit low and over the plate, but it came after two low curves just like all series.

I'm sure they will change up thier approach to him now, but the youngsters are starting to key in on Houston's pitching.
Same with Judge  
Pete in 'Vliet : 10/18/2017 10:49 am : link
The best part of the double off the wall, was how he bent down to scoop thelow curve, that we all knew was coming.
RE: everything is always about blame here  
dune69 : 10/18/2017 10:49 am : link
In comment 13654782 Greg from LI said:
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Never "hey, some pitchers have really been lights out against them" and "bats have been in a bit of a funk in the series". No, it's "I blame the hitting coach!" "I blame the bench coach!" "I blame Sonny Gray!" "I blame Gary Sanchez!".....ok, well, Gary WAS to blame in game 2, but my point stands.


All this time I was blaming you. I'll rethink.
yeah Houston has their aces lined up  
djm : 10/18/2017 12:47 pm : link
but so do the Yankees. And the Yanks actually have a bullpen.

The smart money might just be on the Yanks.

Judge has an OBP of 333 in the postseason. Not great but not god awful and is 2nd in RBIs with 9. Not bad for a guy that many have labeled as lost at the plate. 9 rbis is 9 rbis no matter how you slice it. LAst night's HR was huge. The RBI double even bigger.

Judge has shown me so much in this postseason. First time ever in the playoffs facing the best pitching in the world and he's shown an ability to adjust on the fly. Not easy to do. He's a legend in the making in my opinion.

Love this team! What a great group of kids. So resilient, never giving  
Victor in CT : 10/18/2017 12:53 pm : link
up!

Love baseball too! What a turnaround!. Judge goes from invisible K machine to completely taking over the series with his bat AND his glove in 2 days. Sanchez goes from zero to hero and finishes the game behind the plate.
Keuchel owns us  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/18/2017 1:03 pm : link
over his career
44.2 IP, 166 total batters faced. And he has given up 0 HRs. .188/.218/.234 split

It seems that since Joe mentioned the poor umping on Judge, that he has gotten better calls on the low pitches in this homestand. If that continues, hopefully he fares better against Keuchel.

If I'm Girardi and Cockrell, I'm telling this team that they have nothing to lose by changing their approach with Keuchel and to focus on those low pitches and look to take every pitch the other way.
I  
mitch300 : 10/18/2017 1:11 pm : link
think one of the most important persons that can determine todays game is the home plate ump. If Keuchel gets the Maddox strike zone and Tanaka doesn't, it will be hard to beat him.
who is our DH  
Del Shofner : 10/18/2017 1:14 pm : link
today?
yep the strike zone is obviously huge  
Stu11 : 10/18/2017 1:15 pm : link
Definitely some encouraging signs with Frazier going the other way for a HR Monday, and them all going with the pitch the last 3 innings last night. Lets hope that carried over to today because thats the only prayer you have of getting to Keuchel.
RE: who is our DH  
Stu11 : 10/18/2017 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13654968 Del Shofner said:
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today?

I'm betting Headley. He started hitting the ball harder the previous few games and delivered last night.
of course the strike zone is important  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/18/2017 1:25 pm : link
but Keuchel has made several starts against the Yankees with I'm assuming several home-plate umpires. He has filthy stuff with late movement that work to great effect against a team comprised of a higher percentage of fly-ball hitters.

Styles make fights and Keuchel is a bad matchup for us. The Yanks were 8th in fly-ball percentage and 24th in ground ball percentage He is one of the best at not giving up HRs and led the league in ground ball percentage.

While I'd like to say it's an easy fix of just strategy, hitters for the most part are who they are. They make adjustments, but they don't just suddenly become a different type of hitter.
They have to start hitting Keuchel at least a bit at some point  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2017 1:28 pm : link
He's good, but no one is .188/.218/.234 good for too long. Those are Pedro Martinez 2000 numbers.
It's been almost exactly 21 years since another crucial game 5..  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2017 1:42 pm : link
...against a great pitcher. On Oct 24, 1996, John Smoltz threw eight innings of 4 hit, 10K, 1 run ball....and lost because Andy Pettitte threw 8.1 innings of 5 hit shutout ball. Might need a similar performance from Tanaka.
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