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Do reporters steal article ideas from BBI?

Eli2020 : 10/17/2017 2:46 pm
I've recently seen discussion topics posted on here posed in Reddit, on Yahoo and other, similar websites. My question is, are people stealing topic ideas from here? Or are people on here stealing from those articles written? Really no definite answer, but was wondering what y'all think/seen.
The answer is ...  
Beezer : 10/17/2017 2:49 pm : link
yes.
No wonder the media  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2017 2:49 pm : link
has gone downhill!
Some of the topics here are better content than you'd find on ESPN or  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2017 2:51 pm : link
From Pat Leonard.
and visa versa  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/17/2017 2:51 pm : link
...
not just reporters - it's a documented fact that Girardi is starting  
Del Shofner : 10/17/2017 2:51 pm : link
Romine tonight because BBI suggested it ...
yes  
mattlawson : 10/17/2017 3:05 pm : link
but is it stealing? or is it a form of consumer insights?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/17/2017 3:12 pm : link
It's not "stealing"... I've had a few reporters tell me they get ideas for article from BBI. Some have also told me that the posters here do such a great job of breaking stories that they will check the Forum for breaking news too.
The main reason I ask  
Eli2020 : 10/17/2017 3:15 pm : link
Is based on recent click-bait articles about trading Eli to the Jags. Someone posted it a few weeks ago and now it's a trending topic.
Us as the "hardcore fans"  
allstarjim : 10/17/2017 3:17 pm : link
of the team are looking at every angle of the team on a near daily basis and discussing it. With such thoroughness of analysis and opinions of the team, there, by necessity, will be intersecting topics written about by the team writers, in my belief.

And if you want to know what fans are passionate about in the moment, you might check a team's discussion board and see what's hot. I don't think that's stealing, that's simply market research.
Makes me wonder  
RobCarpenter : 10/17/2017 3:37 pm : link
how much 'fake' news ends up as stories based on some asshat rumor on BBI. Because so and so knows so and so in the Giants' front office who said that McAdoo has to finish at least 6-10 to save his job...
To be fair  
ThreePoints : 10/17/2017 4:03 pm : link
Reporters often check sites like reddit, twitter, facebook, because people are so active on it and it's so immediate.

If there's a rash of car break-ins in my neighborhood, I know it'll show up on a local FB community group or reddit before the morning news. It's just how it is.
I understand that most NFL coaches monitor BBI daily . . . .  
TC : 10/17/2017 4:10 pm : link
for pearls of wisdom!
Forget reporters, I wish Reese would take a few notes here  
PatersonPlank : 10/17/2017 5:13 pm : link
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Plagiarism?  
Doomster : 10/17/2017 5:19 pm : link
We're sitting here … I'm supposed to be the head writer, and we're in here talking about plagiarism. I mean, listen, we're talking about plagiarism. Not a story. Not a story. Not a story. We're talking about plagiarism. Not a story. Not the story that I go out there and write and write every story like it's my last. Not the story. We're talking about plagiarism, man. Screw BBI!
Had this thought today as I read Dan Duggan's article  
Giantfan in skinland : 10/17/2017 6:37 pm : link
Obviously, anyone who spends any time thinking about/analyzing the Giants is probably going to come up with a lot of these thoughts. That said, I made this post yesterday at noon:

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Very mixed feelings about Mcadoo
Giantfan in skinland : 10/16/2017 12:03 pm
1. I don't think there's any real issue about his ability to be the leader of this team. I give him credit on that front for last year's run and I give him credit on that front for this win. He does seem to do a good job motivating the team and I don't think there's an issue with losing his players. His tough guy act with the press is stupid...as is his hair....but I care zero percent about either of those things.

2. I'm not trying to look for negatives out of a positive win, but I did have this nagging feeling last night that the game perfectly highlighted some of the frustrations I've had with his stubbornness this season and how things could have gone differently if some changes were made sooner. Handed over play calling, heavily featured Engram, Darkwa/Gallman as the lead backs, OL configuration that many have been calling for since camp...and the results were great. So credit to him for making the changes...but also, why did it take until week 6? Same feeling I had when they started going more quick release/no huddle in Philly. Why didn't we do these (seemingly obvious tactics to mitigate OL struggles) sooner (as in LAST SEASON)? This is why I'm more open to the idea of him staying on as coach IF HE'S FIRED HIMSELF AS OC. Many of my biggest gripes with him are about how he has performed as the OC. If that's no longer on the table, I'm a lot less concerned about him as a coach.

3. Just as I didn't fully credit him for the performance of the D last year, I think its only fair not to fully criticize him for the performance of the D this year. This team is really constructed to play close games and win with the D. Thus, that unit, to me, is really the biggest culprit so far this season. They've had the lead or a close game handed to them in almost every game this season and failed to stop the opponent (until last night). They've been bullied in the run game and can't get off the field on third downs. So those things make it hard to fully evaluate how Mcadoo is doing because those are things I just don't think he could fully anticipate/control.

Overall, I'll be ok if they bring him back...but, like I said, I don't want to see him calling plays again.


Linked below is Duggan's article titled "Giants' win over Broncos raises 7 'what if' questions"

The 7 what ifs?
1. Sullivan as play caller
2. Darkwa at RB
3. Pugh at RT
4. Fluker at RG
5. Ellison playing more
6. Jones at center
7. Defense flying around (and makes note of the fact that they had blown fourth quarter leads in 3 straight games heading into Sunday).

Pretty close. Nothing I said was groundbreaking...and like I said....probably very common thoughts for anyone following the team closely. But it did make me wonder.
Duggan Article - ( New Window )
Not only do reporters steal stories from BBI...  
Modus Operandi : 10/17/2017 7:21 pm : link
But opposing coaches come here to crack our playbook and gameplan. Opposing GMs come here to figure out whomelet it is that they need to trade up for and grab from under our noses.

If something doesn't change soon, opposing players will be stealing CAGE designs from our players and that's where we have to draw the line.
I hope they do...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/17/2017 7:25 pm : link
We discuss things here and there is a huge mix of thought on the team. Some is really good, other is utter crap. The best thing the beats can do is break down plays in the game, specifically getting feedback from the players/coaches on what worked and why. I love when those articles are posted.

The second best thing they can do is debunk crappy ideas that fans get. They can expose us for being outsiders with less football knowledge than we think we have by running our ideas past the coaches/players/scouts/executives for comments and excellent insights. These kinds of articles are great as well.

I'm not saying they do this enough. They too get caught up in storylines that are clickbait instead of good journalism. But by reading what the fans post, they can do a great job of informing/teaching us about the game and team we all love.
RE: I hope they do...  
Modus Operandi : 10/17/2017 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13654078 Dan in the Springs said:
Quote:
We discuss things here and there is a huge mix of thought on the team. Some is really good, other is utter crap. The best thing the beats can do is break down plays in the game, specifically getting feedback from the players/coaches on what worked and why. I love when those articles are posted.

The second best thing they can do is debunk crappy ideas that fans get. They can expose us for being outsiders with less football knowledge than we think we have by running our ideas past the coaches/players/scouts/executives for comments and excellent insights. These kinds of articles are great as well.

I'm not saying they do this enough. They too get caught up in storylines that are clickbait instead of good journalism. But by reading what the fans post, they can do a great job of informing/teaching us about the game and team we all love.


Have you read some of the ideas that go for threads on here lately?

A reporter isn't required to debunk a stupid thread. Just a second grade education.
RE: RE: I hope they do...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/17/2017 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13654087 Modus Operandi said:
Quote:
Have you read some of the ideas that go for threads on here lately?

A reporter isn't required to debunk a stupid thread. Just a second grade education.


True, but even if you filter out the worst threads (which I feel capable of doing) there are still lots of hotly debated ideas which can be addressed.
Sure ....  
Beer Man : 10/18/2017 10:12 am : link
I find articles all over the internet which quote the "Beer Man". (8>
This is an open  
oldog : 10/18/2017 10:42 am : link
and accessible forum. Don't assume that it is obscure and unread. For years it has been apparent that this and other media bleed back and forth, and that our posters originate some quite insightful stuff. Last week, a minority of BBI posters saw that if the D were to regain some stoutness, if a defensive TD or two could be scored, if the O line showed some cohesion, and if we took a shot at FGs when the opportunity arose, Denver's O could fall short. It seems that only those few, and the Giants themselves, some of whom read BBI, had an inkling that Sunday night's game could be won. So let's remain open to the non obvious. Stimulate and don't berate, please stop running down the team and individual players at their slightest failing, this is a tough league. Consider how offensive you may be when, despite never having played a single snap, you attack accomplished players like JPP, both Elis and Flowers, as if you had somehow earned the right. This is not a place for anti Giant sentiment, we are Giant fans, here to encourage and support our team. And realize that the Giants are only 1 and a half games behind the cows, and closing.
What constitutes a “reporter” these days is a joke  
baadbill : 10/18/2017 10:47 pm : link
... I rely on BBI for my Giants news, so why would it be a surprise to learn they get thoughts, issues, talking points etc from BBI?
Now that you mention it  
Pete in 'Vliet : 10/18/2017 10:58 pm : link
I do think I read a Buzzfeed article titled "top 10 hottest actresses with odd shaped thumbs"
I'm guessing John Mara doesn't read BBI,  
TheMick7 : 10/19/2017 6:54 am : link
otherwise we'd have a new GM & HC!
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